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Reply #27 - 06/30/06 at 05:38:58
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Okay. Questions were answered at http://www.bookup.com/whybuy.htm (and at http://www.bookup.com/20q.htm ) You didn't have the .htm on your whybuy-link.
  

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Reply #26 - 06/30/06 at 04:48:47
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Markovich: How do you use Bookup? I looked briefly at the webpage and the tutorial videos there. Have you made your own ebooks of your repertoire? I guess that is rather time consuming. Once you have it it looks nice to have. Could be good to have a place to put information from different sources together. Backsolving, training and link to chess programs are good features.

I have Chessbase myself. I only use a few of the functions, regular searches and opening reports are the two features I use the most. Maybe that's why it never crashes for me.
  

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Reply #25 - 06/29/06 at 23:37:59
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Greetings,

Well, I've sorted out WinBoard so it can now see Crafty-20.14 (latest release) as well as GNUChess 5.07 (the most recent though old-ish release).

Interesting comparing them - Crafty seems to hit 12-ply pretty quickly whereas GNUChess takes a while arriving at that depth. Crafty definitely has the edge - it seems to reach 15-ply without any problem - I've only seen GNUChess reach 13 or 14 at most in simpler positions.

Now to download Chessbase Light and see if I can access the playable eBooks - or do I have to be a Member?

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Reply #24 - 06/29/06 at 21:18:21
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The link worked last night - must have been off-line when I first tried it. Thanks again! Cool

Just having minor problems getting WinBoard to "see" it!

Well, this thread seems to be cracking along! I'm very glad I asked the original question - it seems that there's a lot of good software out there of which members are unaware!

I'll keep you posted as to how I get on with the various applications and will try and post a "review" of them.

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Reply #23 - 06/29/06 at 19:49:18
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986:

Thanks for the info.  I'll give the new beta version a try.

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Reply #22 - 06/29/06 at 19:29:20
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September 2005- there was Beta 3 or 4, I think 3 had a lot of bugs and didn't run on my PC.
Now there is Beta 10 Cool
I don't know the latest Beta but 9 is good. Perhaps there are new bugs because they implement a lot of new functions but if you find some and report them there will be fast help Smiley 

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Reply #21 - 06/29/06 at 18:46:38
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986 wrote on 06/29/06 at 18:35:17:
I don't fully agree with your reviews about chesspositiontrainer. The newest Beta seems stable to me. I agree that there were a lot of bugs but now it's better.


Roughly how new is the newest beta?  The last time I used Chesspositiontrainer was probably around September, 2005 and my impressions are based on the version which existed at that time.  If it's been significantly upgraded in the last 8-9 months I guess it might be worth giving it another try.
  

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Reply #20 - 06/29/06 at 18:35:17
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I don't fully agree with your reviews about chesspositiontrainer. The newest Beta seems stable to me. I agree that there were a lot of bugs but now it's better. The best thing about chesspositiontrainer is the great support. If you have suggestions or find bugs they are fixed in very short time. And all questions are answered fast, too. 
There is another program for openingtraining - H.o.r.s.t
I can't say much about it but I heard that it's a good program. Anyone knows more about it?   

http://www.project-it.de/horst/index_eng.htm

  
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Reply #19 - 06/29/06 at 16:56:59
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I agree 100% with Ostap's review of Chess Position Trainer.

Great potential, but buggy and unstable.
  
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Reply #18 - 06/29/06 at 14:40:05
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jarih wrote on 06/29/06 at 14:19:49:
Chess Position Trainer is free and looks much better than Bookup.

http://www.chesspositiontrainer.com/cpt/index.aspx


Thanks for the suggestion.

I tried this program for a while, and I think it has great potential.  I used it both as an openings trainer and a tactics trainer.  I eventually stopped using it because I found it to be a bit unstable and unpredictable.  For example, I would often have to reconstruct a repertoire database and a couple of times had to re-install the program to get things to work properly.

It's nice that it's free, and it has great features when it's working properly, but I think it will have to undergo some upgrades before I'm likely to start using it again.

I know others like it and have said great things about it.  For anyone who hasn't tried chesspositiontrainer yet, I strongly recommend checking it out.
  

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Chess Position Trainer is free and looks much better than Bookup.

http://www.chesspositiontrainer.com/cpt/index.aspx
  
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Reply #16 - 06/29/06 at 14:18:16
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Thanks for your informative reply!  Based on what you describe there is indeed a good case for getting Bookup.
  

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Reply #15 - 06/29/06 at 12:04:24
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OstapBender wrote on 06/28/06 at 17:23:29:
Markovich wrote on 06/28/06 at 16:28:39:
It is not exactly a chess data base, but has anyone tried Bookup?  I've been using this excellent software for years.  It's a great way to store openings variations.  This is a great example of software doing one thing well.  The interface has about four whole buttons.  http://www.bookup.com.


I've heard Bookup is very good as an opening repertoire resource, in part because it handles transpositions really well (something to the effect it stores positions rather than move lists).  Although I've been tempted to get it, I eventually opted for Chessbase when I finally decided to pay money for Chess software.

Markovich,

Would you recommend Bookup to someone who is already using Chessbase or Chess Assistant?  For example, does Bookup enable you to do things (or do them much faster/easier) than the other programs do?

Thanks,
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I find Bookup so useful that I use it even though I have CA.  This business about recognizing transpositions is really no small matter.  Quite a few times I've discovered that one branch of say, the Open Defense unexpectedly transposes into another -- and often without attracting the comment of theoreticians.  Also it's a very clean, intuitive interface.

One particularly nice feature is that if you put your evaluations in your terminal positions, Bookup will automatically provide the correct evaluation (assuming optimal play against your variations) for every position in the tree. 

It's worth noting too that you can also use Bookup as an endings or middle game trainer.  For a middlegame example, one of my students has entered all the positions from Michalchischin, Srokowski and Braslawski's books "Isolated Pawn" and "Hanging Pawns" into Bookup.  Oh, and recognizing transpositions is super-important if you're studying endings.

Having said that, my impression is that you can use CA or CB as an openings trainer if you want to.  I'm not too sure how to do that, since I've always had Bookup.  Others could perhaps enlighten us. 

You may want to read this: http://www.bookup.com/whybuy. ; (I perhaps should stress that I have no commercial interest whatever in Bookup!)

Bookup doesn't come cheap at roughtly $120, so perhaps its a question of how much someone wants to have a nifty way of spreading out and studying his trees of variations.
  

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Reply #14 - 06/28/06 at 22:52:39
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Again, thank you!

I'll try them out - being in the computer industry, I'm always cautious about downloading anything lestl it saves time from having to uninstall it later!  Wink

GMTonyKosten
That beg's the question...

Does the ChessBase Light version support the Playable eBooks?

Regardless, I agree with Markovich - they should be released in a software-independent form.

Markovich
Thank you for the tip!

That Bookup software sounds very interesting!

I'll have to add it to my list for review!

Ben_Hague
Thank you!

I'll have to try it - it seems to have the highest rating and one of the best World Computer Chess Championship records of the various chess engines available. Also seems - like Hiarcs - to have a more "positional" playing style, in comparison with Fritz, for example.

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Reply #13 - 06/28/06 at 19:44:48
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Is Shredder/Hiarcs/Fritz compatible with Scid?


Shredder works fine with Scid, at least on Linux. It needs polyglot, but is fairly straight-forward to set up.
  
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