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Re: Bg5-h4-g3 idea in Scandinavian 3...Qd6 variati
Reply #1 - 07/15/06 at 23:12:12
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The idea of Bg5-h4-g3 makes more sense in openings such as the Stonewall Dutch where White is aiming to neutralize Black's bishop on d6 (with a queen on c7 usually). In close openings White has the time to go in for this long manuever.  In the Scandinavian, he really should just plan for Bf4 which gets to the diagonal in one go.

In this particular game, I'd be pretty happy if my opponent had spent all that time coming to the diagonal.  Normally, if White wants to take the b8-h2 diagonal he would play Ne2 and Bf4 (especially if he's already played Be2 as he can play Bf3, Nge2, and Bf4).
If the knight is on f3 then the plan is much slower.  All black needs to do is cover e5 and the bisho won't have the diagonal for quite awhile.
 
HOWEVER....
I don't think ...Ndb7 is the best move because Black should not play for ...b5 and ...Bb7 in this line.
Be2 and Bd3 are both moves that can quickly play against the ...b5/ ...Bb7 idea.  On Martin's chapter on Be2 he quotes a game where the knight goes to c6 and he explained the idea why ...b5 is not as good in these lines in his chapter on Bd3.

White has lots of way to play against the b5 as well as e6. Also, his development is faster and can engineer a quick d5 (as he did in the game) and this will make Black's plan look dubious if not dangerous. Black should look for more central contol and should get the king off the e-file before he can open you up with d5, Re1, Ng5 and all that sort of thing. 
So, Black should probably put his knight on c6 and not d7 in this line.   
It also covers e5 (as you mentioned) but from c6 it pressures white's center and doesn't block in the bishop which should find useful employment on either f5 or g4.  I think ...Nbd7 ...b5 and ...Bb7 are just allowing white to play through the center and take the initiative.

Simply put, white shouldn't have bothered with the Bg5-h4-g3 plan when he can play for Bf4  (if taking the diagonal is the idea).
And again, I would think twice about playing for ...b5 and ...Bb7 when white's has a bishop on d3 or e2 and can quickly castle then strike in the center with d4-d5.  Best of luck with this excellent defense.

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Bg5-h4-g3 idea in Scandinavian 3...Qd6 variation
07/15/06 at 15:17:26
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Based on enthusiastic reviews here and elsewhere, I bought Andrew Martin's Scandinavian DVD at the bookstore at one of the big open tournaments recently.  As I mentioned in another thread, I think this DVD is great for getting someone up and running in this variation in very little time.  I watched the DVD the night before the tournament, and felt confident enough to give it a try the very first game the next morning.  I thought I'd share the game with some comments.

1.e4 d5 2.ed Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qd6 4.d4 Nf6 5.Nf3 a6

The great thing about Martin's suggested line is that Black has a definite objective. He wants to achieve a setup with ...Nf6, ...a6, ...b5, and ...Bb7.

6.Be2

Martin calls this outwardly unpretentious, but the idea is to disrupt Black's plan of ...b5, which would now be well met wtih 7.Ne5.

6...Ndb7

This effectively meets White's "threat" of Ne5, and now Black can go back to trying to implement his favored formation.

7.0-0 e6 8.Bg5 Be7

Pretty normal stuff.  Now Black is ready to play ...b5, ...Bb7, ...0-0, and perhaps eventually an equalizing ...c5.

9.Bh4!?

This looks odd.  A common idea for White is to harass Black's queen with Bf4 (after preparation).  But does White really have time for the maneuver Bg5-h4-g3?  I figured that Black was simply one step closer to getting his standard setup.

9...b5

Why not? An argument might be made for 9...0-0, but 10.Bg3 Qb6 and Black has blocked his b-pawn.

10.Bg3 Qb6

The standard shelter for the queen in many of these lines. Now an idea for Black is to get castled and oppose the Bishop with ...Bd6.

11.d5!

I like this move.  It tries to take advantage of Black's lag in development and forces the issue.

11...ed

Any other move allows dxe6, and despite the computer's assessment, I think White stands clearly better.

12.Nxd5 Nxd5 13.Qxd5 Bb7

Developing with tempo.  It looks like Black might just be hanging on. But after

14.Qf5

White is still pouring on the gas.

14...Nf6?

Black is under some pressure.  He desperately wants to get castled, but at the moment his Nd7 would hang.  His c7 pawn is also a concern.  He would like to improve the position of his Nd7, prepare for castling, and keep c7 protected.  Thus, ...Nf6 is very appealing if he can pull it off.  I thought I saw a way to do this, but my calculation failed me. Instead, 14...Qf6, although unnatural (a knight belongs on f6, not the queen, right?), looks simple and good, after which I believe Black is about equal.

15.Qe5

White has other options, but this has to be the main candidate and seems very strong.

15...0-0

Still under the illusion that the pawn "sac" is temporary.

16.Qxe7 Rfe8 

I think around about here I realized my mistake, but did not see a way to bail out.

17.Qxc7 Qxc7 18.Bxc7 Rxe2 19.Nd4

Of course. After this White consolidates easily and went on to win.

Conclusion:  9.Bh4 is a curiosity, but is insufficient to cause real problems against accurate play.


  
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