IIrc, there are a few items on Bogatirtsjuk on Winter's site. I recall, that B got into trouble, because he refused to become a professional chess player when ordered in the 30's. I also recall a short written vendetta with Pachman about his emigration. Many years later Pachman apologized.
My database only has 194 games, which is a shame I think.

IM Cox,
what list are you talking about? It was Eliskases who took revenge, because of Moscow 1935. In the words of GM Prins: "The game itself is quite unimportant. If the player, who is treated like a pupil in this completely chewed out variation, had not been exactly a GM like Eliskasis, without doubt I would have restricted myself to the last 16 moves." From the excellent Prins/Euwe biography on Capablanca. This is a book all Capa fans should have, even if they can't read Dutch (buy a dictionary then   ). Is the book translated in English?

My book says Botvinnik was -1, =2. Actually I thought with some other part of my brain that they'd played a match at some point - isn't there a famous Panov game? Probably your number 1. I shall have to carry out some more research and revert. At the moment the most likely possibility seems to be a failure of the Cox memory and in fact what I was remembering as his record against Flohr was in fact against Fine.

I looked up Capa's games the other day and I think only Eliskases and Keres added themselves to the list, and Eliskases I suspect was another who Capa never hd the chance to revenge himself upon. He must have played Keres at least three times, though. Also he didn't seem actually to have lost at Margate at all. Not sure where I got that idea.

Well, I'll check again, but I was obtaining my information from the back of Botvinnik's Best Games 1949-1970, which gives his score against various leading players and I thought had the great man's seal of approval in some way, though of course there can always be mistakes. According to that Botvinnik never beat Flohr; where are we saying he did?

Woofwoof, I don't have the answer, I'm afraid: it was a question. Petrosian and Korchnoi certainly beat them both but I don't think we've come up with anyone else.

It's a bit strong saying Bronstein lost in 1951, surely?!

I wouldn't be so sure that Lasker would have lost to Pillsbury, but to be sure it would have been very interesting.

Pillsbury, before the dreaded onset of the illness, never reached his prime but if a match between Lasker/Pillsbury would have taken place there is no question that Lasker's reign would have ended! Korchnoi had two shots at the title and he was beat. Kere's could not muster the strength to get through the canidates. Bronstein came very close in '51 but lost.  Pillsbury could handle Rubinstein, Chigorin, Nimzo......but never had the chance to even have a shot. Pillsbury was far ahead of his time and his games inspire awe! It is tragic that his short but nevertheless fantastic career is often overlooked! In my opinion Pillsbury is the best of the rest......

IM Cox,

Whats the answer to who beat both GK & Bots? Was my guess on Polugaevsky anywhere close?

IMJohnCox wrote on 11/10/06 at 21:18:36:

Geller, Fine, Petrosjan, Bohatirchuk (Botwinnik only had one draw in 4 games )

I'd wager Najdorf has a plus score

I'm currently thinking of Polugaevsky. Surely he had beaten botvinnik before, & probably beat GK in the late 70's- early 80's kinda thing ? I had also been thinking of Geller......but not sure if he beat GK.

I'm not too sure abt my answers this time.......