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Reply #18 - 08/16/06 at 06:07:24
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@Taljechin:

It certainly seems that quite a few players have the need to diminish the play of their oponents.
There is an annecdote about Nimzowitsch, who lost (i am not sure) a game from Johner.
He loudly complained to the spectators: "Why do I have to lose from this idiot?"

A small piece of advice if you find yourself in a position that you have won a game 
against someone who can't stand losing. You can really get some entertainment out
of him by quoting Tarrasch: "Ich bin noch immer genial!"
  
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Reply #17 - 08/15/06 at 02:55:45
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It's not that clever, but when I'm winning a casual game I like to say, in my best bad guy voice, "Everything is proceeding exactly as I have foreseen."  For some reason, song lyrics and movies lines seem to spring to mind while I play, and if they're relevant I'll say them aloud (like the one above).
  
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Reply #16 - 08/15/06 at 02:30:13
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I first began playing chess a few years ago in college where almost all the local games were filled with good-natured trash talking. My favorite of all time was "They'll be singing my praises as I baptize your bishop in pain" only, for some reason when this guy said it "bishop" sounded like "b*tch *ss". It's really tough to keep playing a blitz game after that Cheesy
  
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Reply #15 - 08/13/06 at 10:48:00
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At my chessclub there was a guy who at least in his own mind thought he ought to be able to beat anyone.
He was indead very annoyed when he lost a game to me. He crossly told me: "If you hadn't played so bad I never would have lost".


The other day I bought a 2nd hand chessbook, and inside was a couple of pages from an old Swedish newspaper (1950-60s) with a 2 page story about 'the first great chesstournament - London 1851', just below the headline it says in bold

Den tyske doktorn Adolf Anderssen segrade men beskylldes av en besviken medtävlare för att ha spelat dåligt

or in english: The german doctor Adolf Anderssen won but was accused by a disappointed competitior of having played badly

Apparantly the need to diminish the opponent's effort has always been greater than the vanity of the own ego. - As losing to a bad player is hardly flattering...  Grin

Another common loser reaction is something like: 'If you'd resigned when you were supposed to, I wouldn't have lost!Smiley
  
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Reply #14 - 08/13/06 at 10:23:04
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At my chessclub there was a guy who at least in his own mind thought he ought to be able to beat anyone.
He was indead very annoyed when he lost a game to me. He crossly told me: "If you hadn't played so bad I never would have lost".
  
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Reply #13 - 08/12/06 at 19:03:42
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Yes that's a really good one, but I find it difficult to believe. If the game truly does exist it would be nice to know how Kholmov continued. Maybe at this point the desperate 4. ...Ktxe5 is the best chance...
  
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Reply #12 - 08/12/06 at 00:25:26
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This from Suba's book on the Hedgehog (quoted from Watson's review):

"Speaking of Ratmir Kholmov's tendency to "get altogether drunk" with greatly reduced chess powers, Suba talks about "a long list of stories and jokes arising from his habit," relating one passed on to him by Karpov: "The game starts 1.e4 Nc6 2.f4 b6 3.Nf3 e5 4.fxe5. At this point Ratmir plunges into deep thought, while whispering 'I've played the Grunfeld all my life and never got into such a bad position!'" Smiley
  

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Reply #11 - 08/12/06 at 00:17:43
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True story from an Open Swiss:

2500+ rated GM shows up for his first round game, an unable to hide his disdain for his opponent exclaims "But your'e only 2200!!''.... To which his quick witted opponent calmly replied "Don't worry, after this game it will be higher".

That one has always stuck with me.  Grin

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Reply #10 - 08/12/06 at 00:14:55
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Just a few words on the incident between Brian Wall and myself.  We've known each other for well over a decade (at least fifteen years in metric terms) and have played numerous games against each other.  He usually wins, we almost never draw.  For some reason I have won several of the more "important" games. We have a lot of fun though.  The game in question wasn't a very serious game, but we had just been talking about rules over lunch only to find ourselves paired against each other.  

The one thing Brian left out was that we were both laughing (on board one or two at the time) as the comedy of errors/manners played itself out.  I have lots of anecdotes about Brian, but he does quite well for himself.  We're good chess friends and I know just about everyone he writes about.  It's a small world when a local character becomes a celebrity ChessFM commentator!
  
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Reply #9 - 08/11/06 at 22:18:02
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 08/11/06 at 13:13:07:
At least I won the game.  Embarrassed


Oh my!  This is why I stick to correspondence chess...   Wink

Even there, we're not spared the chicanery.  I had an opponent who turned down a premature draw offer only to land himself in hot water.  It was just after I had left Philadelphia to return to Canada.  He was furious that the postage rate should go up and that I was costing him money he didn't want to spend, so he submitted an illegal move and "gave" me a draw.  When I told him I thought I had a winning position and wanted to play on, he became rather rude (this is all on postcards, by the way), he told me the game was a forced draw and that was the end of our correspondence.  I told him I didn't "see" his drawing resources and played the winning move (which he might not have seen), I never heard from him again.

Then there was the other opponent who was upset that the American Postal Chess Tournament should let a Canadian play...
  

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Reply #8 - 08/11/06 at 21:41:50
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Nietzsche,

Nice story.  Great moral.  

It's so easy to jump to the wrong conclusion when some critical fact exists which contradicts our natural assumptions.

At one point I considered starting a Favorite Chess Anecdotes thread (if nothing else, it would provide a place to post my "argumentive Dan" anecdote!  Wink).  Maybe, we should extend the topic of this thread to include favorite anecdotes - that way my previous posts would become, retroactively, on topic!

While I'm posting here, I'll share one of my favorite puns which I picked up from playing online blitz games:

Ignorance is Blitz!

(I may be getting a tad carried away with this S_F-type moving text gimick!) Roll Eyes
  

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Reply #7 - 08/11/06 at 21:02:10
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This is an interesting topic.  I hope it fills out...

Here's something from a couple of years ago that might be a bit off topic but really deserves a telling:

I arrived about 10 minutes late to an early first round to find my opponent had played 1.e4.
He was a kid (probably 11-12 years old) and I had no idea what his rating was.

Anyway, I had just spent a lot of time studying the Najdorf (about 2-3 weeks of intense study) but wasn't sure if I was willing to give it a go yet.  Also, some younger players know a lot about fashionable openings and usually have an excellent memory but don't do as well in older or "boring" defenses.   
So, I thought maybe I should play a Pirc or maybe I really ought to play solid via 1...e5.
Anyway, I sat there thinking about my first move for several minutes.  The kid had started glancing up at me from time to time, but after these few minutes he was staring right at me as if to say "Oh my god, you don't know what to play against e4? "

Then he starts breathing fairly heavy (i.e. sighing as if to say "Whatever....just hurry up and move already.")

Well, since I thought it was bothering him, I decided to spend a couple more minutes (a la Lasker) just to see how much.  Wink
He keeps on sighing but stops staring at me, so I play 1...d6 and we get into it.

For the entire game, the kid was tapping his pencil, swallowing really loudly (what a strange habit), and of course, his perpetual sighing.  Since I had the better position I tried to not let it really bother me but the people on the board next to us kept looking over at my opponent and either rolling their eyes or giving him a stern 'that's enough of that' look.   
Kids today...

Anyway, to make a long story short, my opponent misplayed a combination and was down a piece for a pawn.  I traded off the queens and rooks which left me with connected outside passers (that was fun) and absolutely no problems.   But he played it out and kept banging, tapping, and sighing the whole time.  Usually, when a game is over I ask my opponent if they want to go to the skittles room and have a postmordem, but I had no desire to spend any more time with this semi-rude little kid.
As I was waiting for the elevator this man comes up to me and asks me if I could say something about why his son had lost the game. Next to him is the aforementioned child and I'm not sure what to say.  ("Is his dad going to berate me or something?")

So, I simply said that I thought he played too quickly in the early middlegame (we had about 2 hours for the entire game but the kid was still blitzing when he was obviously 'out of book').  Also, he started his kingside attack before developing all his pieces.
At this point the man turns to his kid and starts using sign language to translate what I just said.
Now it hits me... the kid is deaf.   Shocked
He has no idea how loud he is!   
He wasn't being a "pest" at all. 

Needless to say, I was very glad that I didn't complain about his noise during the game.  That would have been an ugly little scene.
  

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Reply #6 - 08/11/06 at 19:46:03
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 08/11/06 at 13:13:07:
At least I won the game.  Embarrassed

Hope this little anecdote was OK (I actually first ran across it before I knew who you were).  Anyway, I figured with your new powers you now had the option of hitting the "smite" button and it would be gone. Wink

So you know Brian Wall, I guess.  I listened to some of his live commentary on ChessFM (alongside Bill Paschall, usually) and he is great - not only in terms of providing interesting comments on the game (which he does well) but even moreso for his sense of humor!  I had no idea before this that following a chess game live could be so thoroughly entertaining.

Iirc, I read somewhere else in Brian Wall's internet writings (maybe the same page where the above anecdote came from - haven't checked yet) that you once beat him in an important tournament game.  Do you recall the game (is there a specific one)?

Was there any banter exchanged?  Grin

BTW, I will eventually try to post something on topic in this thread - as soon as I can recall something worth sharing from my own 'casual game' experiences.
  

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Reply #5 - 08/11/06 at 13:41:13
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One time in a casual over the board game I had someone tell me that I was "hovering over the board, throwing them off of their game" and that "they thought I was a beginner after I lost that knight" after I won a few games against them.  Online I usually say "gg" or "thanks for the game" after the game no matter what the results are (unless they blunder a queen or fall for a checkmate in 1, in which case I would say "hate when that happens, thanks for the game though").  Occasionally I get insults/excuses such as "don't you gg me when I give you a piece" when my opponent lost a rook in an attack that doesn't quite work or "you're the most boring person I've played with" and then a paragraph of why I'm the most boring person they've played with after I won a game in something like 70 moves.

One time I sent a message calling someone "cheap" after I lost on time being up a rook and bishop in a rapid 10 game online.  My opponent just moved their rook to keep checking my king to create diversions and just moved his king around.  I still think it was an incredibly cheap way to play, although I guess maybe that's acceptable in such short time limit games.
  
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Reply #4 - 08/11/06 at 13:27:16
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After a move I thought rather strong, my opponent told me:
"Aha, you are looking for self-mate."
  

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