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Reply #48 - 09/13/06 at 10:22:14
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Here's a couple of involving my least favourite opponent ... kids.

A long while back, I was playing a league match against a lad of maybe 10 years old or younger, and he was outplaying me! I'd made my move, attacking his Queen with a pawn, and then wandered off to look at the other games. When I came back, I saw my clock was ticking and his Queen was still under attack, and so I whipped it off with a florish. He burst into tears Cry. People came over to see what was happening, and it turned out that after making my move I'd forgotten to press my clock  Embarrassed. So we put his Queen back and carried on. But his game went rapidly down hill after that and he lost.

In the second, this time a young girl who was sitting there with what looked like a book of French vocab, presumably doing her homework for a test the next day. Occassionally she'd look up, see that I'd moved, and make her move quickly before going back to her revision as she proceeded to wipe me off the board with a ferocious attack. Maybe the worst insults are the ones given innocently. I'm pleased to say that she's now an IM, so I don't feel so bad about it Smiley
  

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Reply #47 - 09/13/06 at 09:25:57
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My favourite along these lines comes from a London League match some years ago in which a grandmaster had been persuaded to attend from Cambridge at some personal inconvenience – to preserve his anonymity, let’s call him Jonathan Mestel. Our hero arrived late with a bit of palaver and watch-checking and his opponent (a respectable City gentleman), leaping to the wrong conclusions, thought to oblige by trotting out his usual 1 f4 and offering a draw.

JM, slightly misinterpreting his opponent’s intentions, replied with the effective one-two, “F**k off”, and 1….e5.

The game ended swiftly in Black’s favour. Of course, we were all much younger then.
  
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Reply #46 - 09/13/06 at 08:33:56
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A teammate of mine once had to play against a blind guy (very interesting to see how that is done) after his win they went on analysing. As he had made quite a nice sacrifice, he was very eager to show that off. So when the aforementioned sacrifice came up in the analysis, he yelled (or rather said loudly) out: "You didnt SEE that one coming, did you?" When he realised what he had said he went on to apologise, but his opponent hadnt even taken notice. As he explained a bit later many blind people were used to using "visual" words anyway.
  

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Reply #45 - 09/13/06 at 08:13:39
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I once had a correspondence game which led to a position where I had queen and king v king and it was a forced mate in 6. I therefore sent out my move with the forced continuation in the expectation that my opponent would resign. His reply was that he did not accept this and that we would play out out the moves to the end !! We duly followed my original moves and he lost  ! What a waste of postage !
  
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Reply #44 - 09/13/06 at 04:07:37
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GM Walter Browne, a once feared Najdorf practitioner, was notorious for showing up late for the start of his games and scrambling in his first few moves. 

In one memorable tournament in St. Maarten, Browne true to form arrived half an hour late for his game an upon rushing to his table and seeing one 1.e4, he instanltly flashed out his predicted reply 1..c5 and in the process sent all the pieces and the board flying. Needless to say this commotion created quite a stir in the tournament hall and play had to be delayed for some minutes. Further investigation revealed that some clever dickens had glued Black's c pawn to c7. Grin

My only question is, was this home preparation on White's part or was it an over the board novelty.   

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Reply #43 - 09/13/06 at 00:14:51
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 08/23/06 at 07:20:35:


Is there a tactful way to let a player know that it's good ettiquette to resign in a truly dead lost position, and they have reached such a position?  I know the rules are clear during the game, but afterwards?
Huh


I suggest not showing any annoyance - that only encourages them. 

Instead maintain calm concentration. In fact turn the situation to your advantage and really ENJOY your winning position, take your time (if you can), accompany each of your moves with a sadistic and satisfied little smirk etc.

When the opponent finally resigns, smile, shake his hand vigorously and thank him profusely for the pleasure he has given you.
  
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Reply #42 - 09/12/06 at 20:30:28
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In one blitz tournament I participated in I witnessed a particularly intense time scramble, where in the melee White who was a queen up and winning easily, promoted a pawn only to mistakenly put on a black queen, his opponent quick to exploit this unexpected gift later mated him with it.  Grin

True story

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Reply #41 - 09/12/06 at 20:24:59
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HgMan wrote on 08/11/06 at 22:18:02:
Smyslov_Fan wrote on 08/11/06 at 13:13:07:
At least I won the game.  Embarrassed


Oh my!  This is why I stick to correspondence chess...   Wink

Even there, we're not spared the chicanery.  I had an opponent who turned down a premature draw offer only to land himself in hot water.  It was just after I had left Philadelphia to return to Canada.  He was furious that the postage rate should go up and that I was costing him money he didn't want to spend, so he submitted an illegal move and "gave" me a draw.  When I told him I thought I had a winning position and wanted to play on, he became rather rude (this is all on postcards, by the way), he told me the game was a forced draw and that was the end of our correspondence.  I told him I didn't "see" his drawing resources and played the winning move (which he might not have seen), I never heard from him again.

Then there was the other opponent who was upset that the American Postal Chess Tournament should let a Canadian play...



Probably the rudest remark I ever made in a CC game came in a postion where I was rather clearly winning, yet my opponent chose to play on.  He happened to be someone I'd known from OTB chess years earlier, and whom I liked.  But as the game dragged on toward my eventual win, I sent a card saying, "What, are you hoping that an asteriod will strike Columbus, Ohio?"  This struck me as quite funny at the time.

But when he resigned immediately and without comment, I saw that my remark had quite justifiably offended him.  Unfortunately, I haven't had the occasion to play against him since.
  

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Reply #40 - 09/12/06 at 17:02:37
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Time to rehabilitate this thread with some more humor  Grin

Upon visiting a primary school chess tournament in my country I noticed two kids in particular, heads cradled in hands and both deep in concentration. Greatly impressed by this and assured that the future of chess was in safe hands I examined the Board only to find that both Kings had been exchanged!!   

The result?....Draw agreed of course

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Reply #39 - 08/23/06 at 22:52:23
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GM Maurice Ashley shared a funny anecdote from when he was an IM playing in a strong european tournament. 

As the story goes Ashley was paired against GM X and after many adventures Ashley found himself in a miserable position and facing a thankless defensive task. GM X now relishing his position and in an attempt to torture his opponent further, began screwing in the moves on every turn in an exaggerated attempt to emphasise his total control of the game, however he soon made a slight inaccuracy that allowed Ashley to break the stranglehold, which Ashley in turn emphasised  by unscrewing!! all of his remaining moves much to the amusement of the onlookers.   

Needless to say GM X was not a happy camper after the above turn of events.  Grin

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Reply #38 - 08/23/06 at 08:49:31
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 08/23/06 at 07:20:35:

Is there a tactful way to let a player know that it's good ettiquette to resign in a truly dead lost position, and they have reached such a position?  I know the rules are clear during the game, but afterwards?Huh


I wish there was! but unfortunately no. My theory is that such players play on with the hope that you would blunder later on, thus allowing them a 2nd chance. Or if they have gained time on you, they play on so that your flag would drop 1st thus they win the game instead despite being in a hopeless posn! (experiences at Yahoo hv at least proven the 2nd point!) 

I played a higher rated player on Yahoo once, 25 mins control. I gave the guy the initiative after some mistake somewhere, but somehow managed to put up a strong, stout defense Shocked which usually really isnt in my nature to do so. Seeing no way to break it down, he saced a piece wrongly & that gave me back the initiative & a winning endgame posn. Unfortunately in trying to avoid his attempted perpetuals & being short of time (I had 1 min to his 5 mins) I blundered & lost 2 pawns w/o compensation & the game due to the flag drop. Maybe I should have just settled for the perpetual or draw by repetition instead of trying to escape & push for the win! Oh! the benefit of hindsight! Tongue
  

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Reply #37 - 08/23/06 at 07:20:35
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I once played a game against a friend in an important tournament.  He lost a piece for no compensation and played on almost to mate (It was on a schedule of two games a day, so preserving energy was important.)

We went and analysed the game, but he wanted to stop analysing after he lost the piece.  There were several spectators around, so I said (rather unkindly), "you made me play this position out, now let's analyse it to the end!"

Was I too harsh?  He's still a friend and I enjoy playing him.  

Is there a tactful way to let a player know that it's good ettiquette to resign in a truly dead lost position, and they have reached such a position?  I know the rules are clear during the game, but afterwards?
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Reply #36 - 08/22/06 at 04:44:28
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MNb wrote on 08/11/06 at 13:27:16:
After a move I thought rather strong, my opponent told me:
"Aha, you are looking for self-mate."


This is easily the best one I've seen so far...I am now just waiting for the right time and place to employ it!

I don't think that I've ever had such an imaginative comment sent my way.  After a recent game though, I offered to look over the position with my opponent, who was rated a bit less than I.  Unexpectedly, his knowledge of the line was quite deep, and I expressed amazement that the line was known to theory, since it turned out so badly for White.  He quickly explained how things went wrong for him:

"Oh, well, this move isn't book, it's better to play like this.  I just thought that you'd grab the pawn."

Well, I may be a patzer but the taking the pawn was *very* obviously wrong...in fact, I could calculate the resulting lines all the way to mate!  So I'd count this as an insult, but perhaps less intentional or more subtle than your typical blitz banter...
  
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Reply #35 - 08/21/06 at 21:08:18
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I once heard one of GM Arthur Bisguier's fans ask him how he could lose such a game as the one he had just lost.  He replied sourly, "I've lost more games than you've played." 

This is interesting because I later read that he'd made the same comment at a different tournament.
  
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Reply #34 - 08/21/06 at 10:56:26
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How very confusciating
  

If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through.
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