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Re: KID->Leningrad Dutch
Reply #4 - 09/28/06 at 14:32:04
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Just a little correction.

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and if white play's 4.Be3 or Bg5 then 4...a6!? which seems even better than normal Pirc against this lines.


4...a6!? only if there is a knight on c3.

  

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Re: KID->Leningrad Dutch
Reply #3 - 09/28/06 at 14:24:38
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I suppose the Leningrad is more interesting against the London and Colle setup than the KID.


Obviously, but I don't know if it's really better.

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You should pay a little attention to White's early h2-h4-h5, just in case the quiet quiet queen's pawn player goes suddenly berserk.


There are two ideas that I have usually found. An early h-pawn push which is semi-solved by ...h6, and Bc4 and Qb3 patrolling the a2-b8 diagonal. I have seen some games played by De la Villa where black castled long in the second option. 

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I assume you play the Pirc via 1.e4 g6 2.d4 Bg7 ?


No. This is not my usual move order. I usually try 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6, but I don't fear any KID transposition nor a Austrian Attack (then 4...Nf6 and 5...0-0) , and if white play's 4.Be3 or Bg5 then 4...a6!? which seems even better than normal Pirc against this lines.

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Maybe off-topic, but I think 1. d4 g6 2. Nf3 Bg7 3. Bf4 d6 4. e3 is extra-innocuous (compared to the usual London vs. KID move order) due to 4...Nd7, aiming to immediately enforce ...e5 (with possibilities such as Ne7-f5 if the bishop goes to g3 and/or Qe7 in one move rather than Qe8-e7 as would be needed in the usual scenario).


Not really off-topic because what I'm looking for is way to play against this systems with confidence but trying to have some fun. I try to build my own repertoire based on some idiosyncratic ideas which probably won't be fully trusty but what really matters is that they will be mine!
  

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Re: KID->Leningrad Dutch
Reply #2 - 09/21/06 at 03:46:20
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Maybe off-topic, but I think 1. d4 g6 2. Nf3 Bg7 3. Bf4 d6 4. e3 is extra-innocuous (compared to the usual London vs. KID move order) due to 4...Nd7, aiming to immediately enforce ...e5 (with possibilities such as Ne7-f5 if the bishop goes to g3 and/or Qe7 in one move rather than Qe8-e7 as would be needed in the usual scenario).
  
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Re: KID->Leningrad Dutch
Reply #1 - 09/21/06 at 02:51:18
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A looong time I ago I have asked a similar question. Nobody showed up with an objection against this move order. I suppose the Leningrad is more interesting against the London and Colle setup than the KID.
In practice Black has done very well. You should pay a little attention to White's early h2-h4-h5, just in case the quiet quiet queen's pawn player goes suddenly berserk.
I assume you play the Pirc via 1.e4 g6 2.d4 Bg7 ?
  

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KID->Leningrad Dutch
09/20/06 at 09:59:42
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Hi people,

I liked to play the KID but since some time ago I've been trying some different defences to 1.d4. I've come back to the KID and I believe that it will be to stay for a long time. I'm working in a repertoire based on the KID but I would like to play it in this way against some "unorthodox" openings (I play the PIRC against 1.e4.):

1.d4 g6 (avoids Tromp) 2.Nf3 Bg7 3.Bf4 (Bg5) d6 4.e3 f5 going for a Leningrad Dutch setup. Is this safe?

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