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Re: French Winawer
Reply #3 - 12/20/06 at 15:07:58
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I'd be more worried about 7 Qg4 than this line !!

You could always try 7 Nf3 b6 or 7....Qc7  or h6........if you were really bothered .

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Re: French Winawer
Reply #2 - 12/20/06 at 14:47:20
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Hi dom,

thx, that game of Horvath really is a good source. Doesn't matter if the bishop is on g2 or h3 for blacks plan.
Somehow it managed to miss in my database at home  Undecided
  
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Re: French Winawer
Reply #1 - 12/16/06 at 08:52:15
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If you look at next game found in Chessbase online database (www.chesslive.de) and position after 13....ooo, you'll find good ideas how to play as Black: Kertesz-Horvath,Budapest 2004

The idea behind Nh4 is to open space for the light square bishop after Bg2 or Bh3. But here Black has a simple way to have a good position after Rdg8 in any case. For example: 14.Nh4  (White forbid Nf5 but Black has abother good square for the knight: g6) Rdg8!? and White has not enough pieces to attack (and win) the weak e6 pawn, because 15.Bh3 Ng6 and if 16.Nxg6 Rxg6! (the h7 pawn must stay on the h-file for the h5-h4 breakthrough) or 15.Bg2 

In lines without loss of tempo, White has time to use knight for a kingside blockade or win a pawn. A good example (Uhlmann's book is useful for all these lines with opposite castles in the Winawer): 10.Be2 c4 11.Nh4!? (11.Re1 Tringov-Timman,Plovdiv 1983 (BCO) or Anand-Archipov,Moscou 1987 (Tiemann)) Ng6!? (13...ooo 14.g3 Ng6! and not 14..e5 Spassky-Shaked,Hoogeven 1998 ; 14.Bh5 transposes) 14.Bh5 ooo 15.Bxg6! hxg6 16.Nxg6 Rhg8 17.Nf4 e5 18.Ne2 Qc7 19.Be3 Be6 20.Ng3 Rh8 21.Re1 Rdg8 Semeniuk-Koslov,1975 (Tiemann) 

Akesson idea (Nf5,Nd6,e4) is an important alternative because Black has an outpost on e4 which cut the weak pawn e6 on the e-file and the diagonal for the bishop on g2. 

  
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C19: French Winawer
12/13/06 at 13:09:42
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Hi out there,

Question about the following line, that I faced in my last OTB-game

1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e5 c5 5.a3 Bxc3 6.bxc3 Ne7 7.Nf3 Nc6 8.a4 Qa5 9.Bd2 Bd7 10.Bd3

now theory recommends 10...c4 (which I played), and the position is considered better for black
Here usually white plays Be2 (which is nonsense as black has just won a tempo compared to the main line with 10.Be2). But after 11.Bf1 e.g. 11...f6 12.exf6 gxf6 13.g3 O-O-O 14.Bg2 (here my opponent deviated with the strange Nh4, maybe he knew the game below) black IMHO cannot play ...e5, as - when the positon opens - the white Bg2 will become a monster. But if black does not play ...e5, very soon the Pe6 will become weak. 
Any kingside activity with ...h5 will simply be answered with h4, and without ...e5 playing on the g-file with the rooks looks pretty harmless vs a white fianchetto.

[Event "TCh-SWE 2003-4"]
[Site "Goteborg SWE"]
[Date "2004.??.??"]
[White "Berg,E"]
[Black "Akesson,J"]
[Round "9"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[WhiteElo "2495"]
[BlackElo "2333"]
[ECO "C16"]

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e5 Ne7 5. a3
Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 c5 7. a4 Nbc6 8. Nf3 Qa5 9. Bd2
Bd7 10. Bd3 c4 11. Bf1 f6 12. exf6 gxf6 13. g3
O-O-O 14. Bg2 Nf5 15. O-O Nd6 16. Nh4 Ne7 17. Qh5
Nef5 18. Nxf5 Nxf5 19. Rad1 a6 20. Bh3 Nd6 21. Rfe1
Qxa4 22. Bxe6 Bxe6 23. Rxe6 Qxc2 24. Bf4 Nb5 25. Re7
Qg6 26. Qh3+ f5 27. Rde1 Qg4 28. Qg2 Rhg8 29. Rxh7
Rge8 30. Rb1 Qe2 31. h4 Qd3 32. Rxb5 axb5 33. h5
Re4 34. Rc7+ Kb8 35. Rd7+ Kc8 36. Rc7+ Kb8 37. Rd7+
Kc8 38. Rc7+ Kb8  1/2-1/2

I have the impression that this is not at all bad for white, maybe this even is an attrective way to play for white ..
Any comments welcome
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