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Re: QG 3.Nc3 Bb4!?
Reply #4 - 01/31/07 at 19:38:46
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Ptero,
I guess that could be an option. Botvinnik-Capablanca really is a classic! Dont know whats the status of todays theory of this line though.

My first reaction was that u suggested to play the NID Rubinstein (when I really want to make 4.Qc2 NID work). However it is really not that much extra work - I already know which of the subvariations to study - AND I have avoided the Hübner variation! (I always want to play black when meeting this as white)
  
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Re: QG 3.Nc3 Bb4!?
Reply #3 - 01/31/07 at 19:17:35
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Ptero wrote on 01/31/07 at 18:29:18:
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How to proceed against the unusual 3-,Bb4!?


Well, after 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e3!? Nf6 5.a3 white gets a rather nice version of the Nimzo, recall Botvinnik-Capablanca 1938. Shouldn't be all that troublesome to handle, no? 
 


That is definitely the right idea.  The early ...d5 does not work well against the Saemisch pawn structure.  White exchanges on d5 and then slowly prepares a pawn roller by means of Bd3, Ne2-g3, f3, 0-0, Ra2-e2 and so forth.  After e3-e4, Black faces a terrible dilemma: exchange on e4 and give White the central pawn phalanx and half-open f-file, or let e4-e5 come in with subsequent f4-f5-f6.  One defensive idea is ...Ba6 with the exchange of White's dangerous d3 bishop, but it turns out that this doesn't really take much sting out of White's plan.  This was all worked out in the 1950s. 

If you unstand this, you can score a lot of easy points in Swiss events with 4. a3 against the Nimzo.  Innumerable Blacks seem not to understand that an early ...d5 is bad for Black.
  

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Re: QG 3.Nc3 Bb4!?
Reply #2 - 01/31/07 at 18:29:18
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How to proceed against the unusual 3-,Bb4!?


Well, after 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e3!? Nf6 5.a3 white gets a rather nice version of the Nimzo, recall Botvinnik-Capablanca 1938. Shouldn't be all that troublesome to handle, no? 
 
  
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Re: QG 3.Nc3 Bb4!?
Reply #1 - 01/31/07 at 17:22:57
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This line appears as column 81 in Batsford Modern Chess Openings 14th Ed p413.

MCO has few lines here - main line:

4. cxd5 exd5  5. Bf4 Nf6  6. e3 c5 [here another line is given ...Ne4] 7. Bd3 [or a line with Bb5+] Nc6  8. Nge2 cxd4  9. exd4 Bg4 [sideline ...0-0] 10. f3 Be6 [the note says that 11 0-0 0-0 12 a3 Bd6 limits white to a tiny edge.

The main line is clear up to move 6. All of this looks solid enough, but what do I know?
  
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QG 3.Nc3 Bb4!?
01/31/07 at 14:19:01
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1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4!?

First:
I was planning to play the QG exchange and Nimzo 4.Qc2 (as recommended by Cox in his d4-book).


In this variation black can later choose how to develop his kings knight (Nf6 or Ne7!?)
Play easily can transpose into several NID lines. After a move like 4.Nf3 play also can transpose to a Ragozin or Vienna.
Thought I had avoided these lines by playing the QG exchange.... Undecided

Cox and other repertouar books I have seen seam not to mention this move.


How to proceed against the unusual 3-,Bb4!?
  
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