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Question: What is the most exciting material piece imbalance?

B for R

1 (8.3%)

N for R

0 (0.0%)

2 pieces for 2R

0 (0.0%)

2 pieces for Q

8 (66.7%)

4 pieces for Q+R

1 (8.3%)

Opponent's Knight trapped in corner for Rook

0 (0.0%)

Other

2 (16.7%)

Total votes: 12

« Created by: condor on: 01/31/07 at 15:58:11 »

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Material Imbalances (Read 4364 times)

MUBAs Opponent Junior Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 70 Joined: 02/06/07	Re: Material Imbalances Reply #8 - 02/07/07 at 22:21:22	Post Tools	Print Post
	Queen v Rook + minor piece is an interesting one I won a nice game with that material recently.
	« Last Edit: 02/08/07 at 14:14:49 by MUBAs Opponent »

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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: Material Imbalances Reply #7 - 02/01/07 at 16:05:27	Post Tools	Print Post
	shouldnt the 3rd one there be 3 pieces v 2 rooks (I am particularly fond of that one) Also there is the classic: Rook + 2 bishops v 2 Rooks + Knight, which more often than not is at least equal for the Rook and bishops (of course swap rooks and its a different story) All these Botvinnik type generalisations are great but the position does also matter a bit


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Antillian God Member Offline Brilliance without dazzle! Posts: 1757 Joined: 01/05/03 Gender:	Re: Material Imbalances Reply #6 - 02/01/07 at 13:44:01	Post Tools	Print Post
	I like winning my opponent's King.

	"Breakthrough results come about by a series of good decisions, diligently executed and accumulated one on top of another." Jim Collins --- Good to Great
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chk God Member Offline a pawn is a pawn Posts: 1063 Location: Athens Joined: 10/26/06 Gender:	Re: Material Imbalances Reply #5 - 02/01/07 at 13:23:46	Post Tools	Print Post
	Quote: I recently had two rooks and three pieces against a queen. It wasn't very exciting, though. It depends.. Did you also have doubled pawns?

	"I play honestly and I play to win. If I lose, I take my medicine." - Bobby
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IMJohnCox God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 1551 Location: London Joined: 01/28/06 Gender:	Re: Material Imbalances Reply #4 - 02/01/07 at 11:51:01	Post Tools	Print Post
	I recently had two rooks and three pieces against a queen. It wasn't very exciting, though.


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thibdb13 God Member Offline Tal was the best Posts: 974 Location: Mechelen Joined: 01/25/07 Gender:	Re: Material Imbalances Reply #3 - 02/01/07 at 11:40:57	Post Tools	Print Post
	I like the fourth option. Up to me, having 2 pieces and one (possibly) free pawn against the oppponent queen is quite exciting but it turns out quite often to a draw.

	Yusupov once said that “The problem with the Dutch Defence is that later in many positions the best move would be ...f5-f7” but he is surely wrong.
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OstapBender God Member Offline There is no spoon. Posts: 1491 Location: not in Kansas anymore Joined: 10/16/04	Re: Material Imbalances Reply #2 - 01/31/07 at 16:52:45	Post Tools	Print Post
	condor wrote on 01/31/07 at 15:58:11: Don't take this too seriously. What do you think is the most exciting dynamic material imbalance? 2 bishops for 2 rooks can be lethal: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1230058 Ekebjaerg-Timmerman, corr 1991 is a great game! I came across it several years ago when I while trying to collect some information on the so-called Frankenstein-Dracula Variation of the Vienna Game (which I used to play the white side of). The game is briefly mentioned in http://www.chesscafe.com/text/kibitz21.txt It was more extensively annotated by Maddox and Timmerman at another site for which I can no longer find the link, unfortunately (it appears that the web page in question has disappeared).

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chk God Member Offline a pawn is a pawn Posts: 1063 Location: Athens Joined: 10/26/06 Gender:	Re: Material Imbalances Reply #1 - 01/31/07 at 16:19:22	Post Tools	Print Post
	Actually, I voted for this 4th option! It feels like a different approach to the game. One example I know which has similarities to that is in the Kholmov variation of the Pirc: 1. e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 g6 4. Bc4 Bg7 5. Qe2 Nc6 6. e5 Nxd4 7. exf6 Nxe2 8. fxg7 Rg8 9. Ngxe2 Rxg7 It is 3 minor pieces given for a Q and 2 pawns (however Black has difficulties in development)

	"I play honestly and I play to win. If I lose, I take my medicine." - Bobby
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condor Junior Member Offline I love ChessPublishing.com! Posts: 63 Location: Norwich Joined: 08/13/05 Gender:	Material Imbalances 01/31/07 at 15:58:11	Post Tools	Print Post
	Don't take this too seriously. What do you think is the most exciting dynamic material imbalance? 2 bishops for 2 rooks can be lethal: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1230058 Option 4 is an obscure example but it shows adding up pieces's points becomes less important when your opponent has twice as many pieces and always has an advantage in exchanges and picking up pawns. Option 4 seems severly under-rated. People have a particular aversion to "giving up their queen" even though you are sacrificing less than the tradtional exchange (.66 v .6) and commentators talk of being a "queen down" for 2 pieces as if the game is then over. If you have opposite coloured bishops and 2N v Q the imbalance becomes even stronger. If you have any examples of the more obscure imbalances I would be very grateful.


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