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nyoke God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 593 Location: BELGIUM Joined: 12/31/06 Gender:	Re: 1. d4-Nc6 Reply #12 - 02/15/07 at 12:58:53	Post Tools	Print Post
	I do not understand this thread. Yes, after 1. d4, Nf6 2. c4, Nc6 you are tangoing (but leading, and it' s the other dancer that gets swirled around). But after 1. ...Nc6 you can simply march. And it is beyond why you wouldn't do that, especially as you do not seem too fond of dancing ?


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thibdb13 God Member Offline Tal was the best Posts: 974 Location: Mechelen Joined: 01/25/07 Gender:	Re: 1. d4-Nc6 Reply #11 - 02/15/07 at 06:47:33	Post Tools	Print Post
	Quote: Benjamin(?) has a series of articles on the tango at www.jeremysilman.com Thanks, these are articles are very interesting but not really encouraging for White. It seems that 6. h4 (after 1. d4 Nc6 2. c4 e5 3. d5 Nce7 4. e4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Ng6) is the only continuation that gives some hope to White.

	Yusupov once said that “The problem with the Dutch Defence is that later in many positions the best move would be ...f5-f7” but he is surely wrong.
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Viking God Member Offline Posts: 673 Location: Norway Joined: 10/12/04 Gender:	Re: 1. d4-Nc6 Reply #10 - 02/09/07 at 09:26:03	Post Tools	Print Post
	Benjamin(?) has a series of articles on the tango at www.jeremysilman.com


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thibdb13 God Member Offline Tal was the best Posts: 974 Location: Mechelen Joined: 01/25/07 Gender:	Re: 1. d4-Nc6 Reply #9 - 02/09/07 at 08:13:20	Post Tools	Print Post
	TopNotch wrote on 02/08/07 at 22:26:37: IM Georgi Orlov also has a book out on the Tango, indeed I think he was the one to first popularise this interesting system in the west. Tops Thanks for the information. Is it "The Black Knight's Tango" from 1998? What is the difference with Palliser's book? (except that it is an older one)? Which book does best explain how white should play? (ideas, plans, tricks,...)

	Yusupov once said that “The problem with the Dutch Defence is that later in many positions the best move would be ...f5-f7” but he is surely wrong.
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TopNotch God Member Offline I only look 1 move ahead, but its always the best Posts: 2211 Joined: 01/04/03 Gender:	Re: 1. d4-Nc6 Reply #8 - 02/08/07 at 22:26:37	Post Tools	Print Post
	IM Georgi Orlov also has a book out on the Tango, indeed I think he was the one to first popularise this interesting system in the west. Tops

	The man who tries to do something and fails is infinitely better than he who tries to do nothing and succeeds - Lloyd Jones
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thibdb13 God Member Offline Tal was the best Posts: 974 Location: Mechelen Joined: 01/25/07 Gender:	Re: 1. d4-Nc6 Reply #7 - 02/06/07 at 15:35:09	Post Tools	Print Post
	IMJohnCox wrote on 02/06/07 at 15:23:37: The position you reached transposed to the Black Knights' Tango; 1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 Nc6, quite a respectable opening played by Bologan among others (Yermolinsky, Benjamin, Christiansen). There's a good book about it by Richard Palliser. Thanks a lot - I didn't at all expect this answer!! I will have a look at this book.

	Yusupov once said that “The problem with the Dutch Defence is that later in many positions the best move would be ...f5-f7” but he is surely wrong.
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IMJohnCox God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 1551 Location: London Joined: 01/28/06 Gender:	Re: 1. d4-Nc6 Reply #6 - 02/06/07 at 15:23:37	Post Tools	Print Post
	The position you reached transposed to the Black Knights' Tango; 1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 Nc6, quite a respectable opening played by Bologan among others (Yermolinsky, Benjamin, Christiansen). There's a good book about it by Richard Palliser.


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thibdb13 God Member Offline Tal was the best Posts: 974 Location: Mechelen Joined: 01/25/07 Gender:	Re: 1. d4-Nc6 Reply #5 - 02/06/07 at 12:26:51	Post Tools	Print Post
	Quote: If u dig in the archives in the daring defence section (the right place for posting a question related this opening) u will find several threads where this has been discussed You are right, I was looking in the wrong section. Here is a link: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1097168063/15

	Yusupov once said that “The problem with the Dutch Defence is that later in many positions the best move would be ...f5-f7” but he is surely wrong.
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Viking God Member Offline Posts: 673 Location: Norway Joined: 10/12/04 Gender:	Re: 1. d4-Nc6 Reply #4 - 02/06/07 at 12:09:44	Post Tools	Print Post
	If u dig in the archives in the daring defence section (the right place for posting a question related this opening) u will find several threads where this has been discussed


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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: 1. d4-Nc6 Reply #3 - 02/06/07 at 11:27:50	Post Tools	Print Post
	Nothing I suppose - a bit like an Alekhines defence seen in the mirror


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nyoke God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 593 Location: BELGIUM Joined: 12/31/06 Gender:	Re: 1. d4-Nc6 Reply #2 - 02/06/07 at 10:23:01	Post Tools	Print Post
	What's wrong with the obvious 2. d5 (2...Ne5 3. e4)?


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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: 1. d4-Nc6 Reply #1 - 02/06/07 at 09:27:17	Post Tools	Print Post
	looks like a Tony Miles special. Of course I think 2.c4 is giving Black some extra options - other choiches are 2.Nf3 which offers a Chigorin defence or 2.e4!? but then Miles used to go ...e5 anyway


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thibdb13 God Member Offline Tal was the best Posts: 974 Location: Mechelen Joined: 01/25/07 Gender:	1. d4-Nc6 02/06/07 at 08:15:20	Post Tools	Print Post
	Three weeks I had to face this opening as white: 1. d4 Nc6 2. c4 e5 3. d5 Nce7 4. e4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Ng6 6. Be3 Bb4 I feeled very ast uncomfortable and eventually (actually I blundered a pawn and got under strong pressure). The problem is I cannot find many litterature about it (some games on chessgames.com, mainly won by black and a game of Chetverik in the last chess informant where he plaid h4 in place of Be3 on the 6th move). So, I have two questions: has this opening a name? where could I find some more explanations about it?

	Yusupov once said that “The problem with the Dutch Defence is that later in many positions the best move would be ...f5-f7” but he is surely wrong.
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