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Re: "Pseudo-Averbakh" 1 d4 g6 2 c4 d6 3 Nc3 Nd7!?
Reply #2 - 03/17/07 at 13:07:10
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Yes, thanks for pointing this out. I shouldn't really have mentioned McNab specifically, though even he has reached the position after 3 ...Nd7 at least five times, and has also occasionally met 1 d4 d6 2 c4 with 2 ...g6 rather than 2 ...e5!?.
  
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Re: "Pseudo-Averbakh" 1 d4 g6 2 c4 d6 3 Nc3 Nd7!?
Reply #1 - 03/17/07 at 12:50:34
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[quote author=Michael Ayton link=1174128934/0#0 date=1174128933]I've since noticed that McNab and others use the move order 1 d4 g6 2 c4 d6 3 Nc3 Nd7!?. [/quote]

There's a crucial difference in the move order that McNab uses. He goes 1. d4 d6

Since 2. c4 is met by e5 when White is in an English/Neo Old-Indian which might not have been their intention, and if 2. e4 we're in a Pirc/Modern. again fine for White but might not have been the plan,  White will play 2. Nf3 to get to lines with c4, but now there's no Saemisch, 4PA, Nge2 etc and Colin will head for a Nbd7 Kings Indian which is sound but out of fashion. Or Black could try 2. ...Bg4
  

Those who want to go by my perverse footsteps play such pawn structure with fuzzy atypical still strategic orientations

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"Pseudo-Averbakh" 1 d4 g6 2 c4 d6 3 Nc3 Nd7!?
03/17/07 at 10:55:33
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On the "Where is White's advantage in the Modern?" thread Willempie and I had a discussion about the 4 ...Nd7 Averbakh, and while approving Rogozenko's idea for Black of 5 Nf3 e5 6 Be2 c6!? (7 0-0 Nh6 8 c5 dc 9 de Qc7!), he felt that after 5 Nge2 Black's best was to transpose to an ...e5 Saemisch (via 5 ...e5 6 Be3 Ngf6 7 f3 0-0), which he liked for White.

I've since noticed that McNab and others use the move order 1 d4 g6 2 c4 d6 3 Nc3 Nd7!?. Now 4 Nf3 e5 (or 4 ...Bg7) is likely to lead to Rogozenko's line, while even after 4 e4 c6!? the Saemisch plan is, interestingly, comparatively rarely played, with transposition to the Rogozenko line (via 5 Nf3 Bg7 6 Be2 e5) being the most common. (Of course White has other fourth moves, e.g. 4 Bg5, but are they dangerous?)

Is there a good reason for this, I'm wondering. After 3 ...Nd7 4 e4 c6 5 Be3 (is 5 f3 inaccurate here?) Ngf6, what is the strongest play for each side? A few games have gone 6 Qd2 e5, while on 6 f3 Black can, if he wants, delay ...Bg7 with (e.g.) 6 ...a6. Not having played the Saemisch since the '80s I'm not able to judge clearly whether Black can profit here from delaying ...Bg7 as well as from not having played ...e5. Can anyone help? Of course this may be a subjective question to some extent, but it would be good to know which decent Saemisch (and perhaps pseudo-Saemisch?) lines Black might have available here.



  
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