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Reply #78 - 08/29/09 at 19:54:29
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The move 6. c4 after 1 e4 c5 2 b4 cb4 3 a3 d5 4 ed5 Qd5 5 Nf3 e5 is not covered in Palliser's book. He only deals with 6 Bb2 Nc6 7 c4, where he recommends 7... Qe4 (Palliser: !)
My question: What should Black do after 6 c4 ? 6... Qe6 looks natural, but after 7 Bb2 Nc6 we are back to 6 Bb2 Nc6 7 c4 Qe6, a position Palliser tried to avoid.
6... Qe4 could have have his drawbacks, as the bishop may be better on c1 than on b2 in this variation.
  
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Reply #77 - 08/03/09 at 20:22:34
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Reply #76 - 08/03/09 at 05:31:18
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schtroumfechecs wrote on 08/02/09 at 18:12:25:
Hi,

Did the palliser's book covers 1.e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. Nf3 ?


Yes.  In brief.
  
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Reply #75 - 08/02/09 at 18:12:25
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Hi,

Did the palliser's book covers 1.e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. Nf3 ?
  
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Reply #74 - 04/08/08 at 10:01:38
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In response to Templare2, do I really recommend 11 Be3 Bd6 12 Qb3 Qb4 13 Qxb4 Bxb4, rather than 13...Nxb4 which I'm sure that I gave (and also 13 g4 Bg6 14 Qxb4 Nxb4)? This recapture still looks best to me, although whether 13...Bxb4 14 g4 Bg6 15 Ne5 0-0 is so bad I'm not sure. After 16 Nxc6 bxc6 17 Rac1 Rfd8 18 Bf3 Rac8 Black looks pretty solid and it's not easy for W to increase the pressure. The alternative is 16 Nxg6 hxg6, but what does Sveshnikov want to do next? Black again looks solid and OK to my eye: ...Ne7-d5 and doubling rooks on the d-file are two plans.
  
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Reply #73 - 04/02/08 at 01:03:17
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Richard's Bg4xf3 idea in the Closed has been played many times on the White side of the English (more commonly against KID setups where White plays d3 instead of d4, but also where Black puts the pawn on f5 in one move).

I am not sure how helpful it is to think of the sicilian as a reverse English or vice versa. The structures are of course similar, but the objectives are fundamentally distinct - in the English white should be looking for an edge, in the Closed Sicilian Black should be looking to equalise. The extra move changes the character of the position (and the risks the position can sustain) quite dramatically.

If you start reasoning by analogy on anything beyond structural considerations you are likely to find yourself in trouble pretty fast.
  
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Reply #72 - 03/28/08 at 16:23:00
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I’d also like to put in a word for this highly practical and instructive book. 
Perhaps I am biased, being a Pirc player, but I like the …Nf6 basis of the recommendations against the Closed Sicilian. I am finding it interesting to read this book in conjunction with Donaldson and Hansen’s new ‘Strategic Opening Repertoire for White’, which recommends similar lines to Palliser against the King’s Indian, with colours reversed. When Palliser mentions the interesting and little-known line 1 e4 c5 2 Nc3 Nc6 3 g3 g6 4 Bg2 Bg7 5 d3 d6 6 f4 Nf6 7 Nf3 Bg4!? he says it borrows an idea from the Pirc Austrian Attack, but you could equally say it’s borrowed from the English; D&C have a whole section on this bishop-swap idea and even give a game in the Closed Sicilian. 
Sometimes, even direct transpositions are possible. For example, take a plausible line that could arise from D&C’s repertoire, 1 Nf3 d6 2 c4 e5 3 Nc3 f5 4 g3 Nf6 5 Bg2 g6 6 0-0 Bg7 7 d3 0-0. D&C don’t consider this position, but it’s a logical way for Black to play. Now something like 8 b4!? e4 9 Nd4 c5 10 Nc2 looks plausible. I haven’t really examined this, it’s just a thought – but  now we have a position that Palliser gives as satisfactory for Black (i.e. in this case White!) – in my example Black has played …c5 in one go whereas in Palliser White has spent a move on c3 first. 
Incidentally, in his review on chesscafe, Hansen has come up with an interesting objection to one of Palliser’s lines – in the Closed Sicilian with Be3. 
We’re used to thinking of 1 c4 e5 as a reversed Sicilian – maybe we should start thinking of 1 e4 c5 as a reversed English…
  
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Reply #71 - 03/28/08 at 01:36:41
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I thought I might be able to add something to this discussion.

Richard does seem to be producing a lot of books these days, but then again he likes what he is doing and takes pride in the quality of his books, so it is wrong to judge the quality of his books by reference to the quantity he is producing.

Bottom line: this is a guy who could have gone on to become an academic and write tedious history articles that future Oxford undergrads would be forced to read, summarise and reluctantly critique (at Cambridge they would of course be discrediting rather than critiquing). Instead he has directed his academic interests toward chess literature, and I for one think we are considerably better off for it.

The anti-sicilian book is pretty damn good, as is his beating unusual openings effort (these are the only of Palliser's works which I have recently purchased - of his older works Play 1.d4 and Tango are both very good also).

I think that it is also important, when considering chess books, to view each work in the correct context. Some books are written from the heart with a lot of passion (Ward's first book on the Dragon, my own work on the Dragon, Wells' work on the Semi-Slav, Rowson's Grunfeld book are just a few that spring to mind) whereas other books are written to fill a hole in the market and are largely functional. Very few people are going to have several years' experience in particular anti-sicilian lines that they are just bursting to share, if only because it is not worth investing the same amount of preparation time in developing stunning novelties (the pay-off is just too low when there are several good routes to playable positions).

If the book is functional the task then becomes one of identifying which lines are strong/interesting, researching them thoroughly, explaining the concepts underlying such systems, checking for novelties and errors in the analysis, and finally presenting the information in an accessible and engaging fashion. Coming from the academic background that he does Richard is unusually good at this.

Another point, which I think is often overlooked, is that a strong player can produce something along the lines of a "Starting Out in the Najdorf" guide relatively quickly - if they are already familiar with the theory and the ideas, then actually this is a relatively short job (the hardest task is probably working out what you can legitimately leave out of the book so as to keep things simple!). That doesn't in any way diminish the quality of the book, nor does it undermine the larger projects that an author may be working on - it is simply a different product that must be judged on its own merits.

Anyway, that's my bit for this discussion.

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Reply #70 - 03/19/08 at 15:04:32
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I've a question for Mr. Palliser about His book "Fighting the Anti-Sicilian".

The  Alapin/Sveshnikov  is the most annoying line in the Sicilian at club level ( and may be at the international level too) so Your Line A is a welcomed suggestion.

But after 1. e4 c5  2. c3 d5   3. exd5 Qxd5  4. d4 Nc6  5. Nf3 Bg4  6. Be2 cxd4  7. cxd4 e6  8. h3 Bh5  9. Nc3 Qa5  10. 0-0 Nf6  11. Be3 Bd6 ( or Be7) Your main line for White is 12. a3 and in the note "a" You analyse   12. Qb3 Qb4  13. Qxb4 Bxb4

In this particular position You look only at 14. Nb5 but Sveshnikov in his book suggests 14. g6 Bg6  15. Ne5 0-0 ( if 15.., Bxc3  16. bxc3 Nxe5  17. dxe5 Nd5  18. Bd2 +=) and now  16. Nxc6 and 16. Nxg6 are both favourables to White according to Sveshnikov.

What do You think about?
  

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Reply #69 - 03/14/08 at 07:55:02
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I'm considering buying this book.  Against the open sicilian, I always play the Dragon.  Would I be able to use the lines in this book without having to worry about White move-ordering me into playing some sort of non-Dragon open sicilian?  Thanks.
  
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Reply #68 - 10/04/07 at 14:01:59
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Palliser deserves his good reviews. He appears conscientious, is very thorough indeed and has a clear writing style.

Only minor downside in all his books so far was that the anti-anti-sicilian book omitted too many lines for my liking.
But this is compared with the many, many positives. 

Regarding output. Certain other writers appear to have let things slide as their output grows, but Palliser appears to be keeping his end up very well. 'Productive' perchance, rather than prolific. 

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Reply #67 - 10/04/07 at 01:25:58
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Yep....indeed, unfortunately "prolific" is a bad, bad word when used to refer to a chess writer. However, having said that, I have three of Palliser's books and another book partly  written by him. 

So far, I must say I am not dissappointed. And he seems to get glowing reviews with all his books. How does he do it? I wonder sometimes. 

I think I read somewhere that Palliser is a university student? But i stand to be corrected. Perhaps this is proof that British universities aren't as tough anymore as they pretend to be  Grin




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Reply #66 - 10/03/07 at 21:35:39
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bulgroz wrote on 09/20/07 at 09:28:41:
Mr Palliser is simply unbelievable...
He has just finished a theoretical book on the Anti-sicilian that another one is ready to be published.

See for yourself: http://www.everymanchess.com/display.php?id=449

I think he must have entered the fourth dimension where a day is not 24h but extends to a mere 30 or 40h  Grin

I have bought some of his books at the beginning (Play 1.d4), but now I refrain from doing so anymore...


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Reply #65 - 10/03/07 at 21:03:44
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bulgroz wrote on 09/20/07 at 14:04:45:
Hi Alumbrado.
Glad to see i'm not the only one !
Well, Mr Palliser has released none less than 6 books in 2007, as a quick search in amazon.com will tell you. 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_b/?search-alias=stripbooks&field-keyw...

5 of them were opening books, 2 on the sicilian defence !


2 of them were the new Everyman CDs, containing the chessbase files of books previously published i.e. not written this year.  Beating Unconventional openings (a good book, btw) would have been written last year to be released so early this year.

So, as a full time working in chess publishing the output for 2007 is:

1 starting out guide (SO the Colle)
1 puzzle book
1 repertoire book (Fighting the Anti-Sicilians)

That certainly doesn't feel like a tremendous amount to me for a year's output.

Bear in mind that a strong player and theoreotician like Richard who has played the Sicilian for years will have a lot of analysis on Anti-Sicilian lines already.

For what it's worth, I also think Fighting the Anti-Sicilians is an excellent book - if you liked Richard's previous works that you have, and given the fact that everyone who has read it praises it - if you are interested in the subject material, you should give it a go. 
  
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Reply #64 - 09/27/07 at 21:35:48
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bulgroz wrote on 09/26/07 at 12:40:33:
I have bought Palliser's Tango and Play 1.d4 books, and they are quite good.
But these ones have been produced at the beginning of Mr Palliser chess books writing career. 

Not when he releases 6 books a year.


Bulgroz,

You're assuming that quantity means a lack of quality.  It may sometimes, but not in this case.  Fighting the Anti-Sicilians is also quite good.

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I have bought Palliser's Tango and Play 1.d4 books, and they are quite good.
But these ones have been produced at the beginning of Mr Palliser chess books writing career. 

Not when he releases 6 books a year.
  
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Reply #62 - 09/24/07 at 02:17:09
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Richard's Tango book is still one of my favorite opening books of all time, and I only wish I could find an analogous book for 1. e4! I was hoping Wisnewski's Play 1...Nc6 would be the analogue, but still can't trust his 1. e4 Nc6 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. e5 Ng4. The Alekhine is another possibility (I like Cox's book) but the sharp lines seem too risky and the solid lines too dull, though I'm still considering it.

I have several of his recent books and they are all excellent (I do wish the Anti-Sicilians book covered 2. Nf3, but I still like the book a lot). It's clear that a lot of thought and originality went into each of them, so I wouldn't worry about the rate of production.

How does the upcoming puzzle book compare with, say, Emms' Ultimate Chess Puzzle Book? Is it just that the puzzles are new, or is there a difference in level or approach?
  
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Reply #61 - 09/20/07 at 15:24:34
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Many thanks for your support MartinC!
The anti-Sicilians work was chiefly done March to mid-May with the puzzle book from mid-May to mid-July. Finding 1200 puzzles and providing full solutions was far from riveting and required far too many 70+ hour weeks.
Have to work hard in this chess publishing business...
Good point too MartinC - I might well have to trade in at some point for a better-paid and less stressful job! For now, though, I'm still enjoying it! Smiley
To blugroz I'll just say that I hate authors who place speed above quality - my books have never yet been sent off with my unhappy about a certain section or two. Quality is important.
  
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Reply #60 - 09/20/07 at 14:41:47
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Richard's rate of book production seems considerably less surprising once you know that he's basically working as a full time author Smiley 

So while you don't the same effect as when someone plays an opening for a career, retires then writes about it such books are by their nature a rare luxury. In compensation you get a guarantee of decent writing/research etc. In this context you might compare Richard's Tango book with say the Bb5 Sicilian one. The former is perhaps a bit more inspirational but they're both thorough, well written & structured etc - as incidentally is the anti sicillians book Smiley
(In this case the inspirational level might also have had something to do with the openings concerned!)

What might be interesting is how long he can keep it up....
  
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Reply #59 - 09/20/07 at 14:04:45
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Hi Alumbrado.
Glad to see i'm not the only one !
Well, Mr Palliser has released none less than 6 books in 2007, as a quick search in amazon.com will tell you. 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_adv_b/?search-alias=stripbooks&field-keyw...

5 of them were opening books, 2 on the sicilian defence !
  
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Reply #58 - 09/20/07 at 13:52:18
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I certainly tend to the view that there is likely to be a certain superficiality involved when one author is constantly churning out material.  There are others that spring to mind ahead of Richard in this respect, though.  In any case, a puzzle book probably takes a little less effort than a major work on opening theory - although that's not to say they are trivial undertakings (on this subject I would add that the recent Volokitin/Grabinsky book Perfect Your Chess is full of really quite tricky positions and is certainly keeping me busy at the moment!)
  

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Am I the only one to think that ?  Shocked
  
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Mr Palliser is simply unbelievable...
He has just finished a theoretical book on the Anti-sicilian that another one is ready to be published.

See for yourself: http://www.everymanchess.com/display.php?id=449

I think he must have entered the fourth dimension where a day is not 24h but extends to a mere 30 or 40h  Grin

I have bought some of his books at the beginning (Play 1.d4), but now I refrain from doing so anymore...
  
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Reply #55 - 08/24/07 at 06:38:00
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This is my analysis of 4...Qd4!?.  The "!" reflects my enthusiasm for this line.  If my analysis is correct, this seems to be an excellent way to turn the tables on White in this surprise variation.

Grand Prix Attack - Hector Variation 4...Qd4! [B21]

1.e4 c5 2.f4 d5 3.Nf3 dxe4 4.Ng5 Qd4!? 

This funny looking move temporarily prevents Bc4 and is also directly aimed against the weaknesses created by f4. 

[4...Nh6!? An interesting thing to note about the position is that this is a reversed Budapest with f4 thrown in.  4.Nh3 is a solid positional continuation against the Budapest, so I think that it is worth considering this as Black!]

5.Nc3
 
[5.d3 exd3 6.Bxd3 Compared to the Budapest version of this gambit, the addition of f4 seems to hurt White. 6...Nf6 7.c3 Qd5 8.0-0 Bg4 9.Qc2 c4]

5...Bf5 6.Nb5 

[6.g4?! Bc8 7.Ngxe4 Nf6 8.Nxf6+ Qxf6 9.Qf3 Qh4+ 10.Qg3 Qxg4 11.Qxg4 Bxg4 12.Bg2 Nc6 13.Nb5 Kd7]

6...Qd7 7.Bc4 Nh6 8.h3 a6 

[8...f6!? 9.g4 Nxg4 10.Nf7 (10.hxg4 Bxg4 11.Be2 Bxe2 12.Qxe2 fxg5 13.fxg5 Nc6; 10.Bf7+ Kd8 11.hxg4 Bxg4 12.Qxg4 Qxg4 13.Ne6+ Kc8 14.Nxc5 Qg3+ 15.Kf1 Qxf4+ 16.Kg1 Qg5+) 10...Nh6 11.Nxh8 g6 This doesn't look as clear to me, though it might be very good. 12.h4 Bg7 13.h5 Bg4 14.Be2 gxh5 and Kf8, g8, xh8 is probably the most straightforward method.]

9.Nc3 b5 10.Bd5 

[10.g4 bxc4 11.gxf5 Qxf5]

10...Ra7 11.Bxe4 

[11.g4 e6 12.Bxe4 (12.Bb3 c4 13.Bxc4 bxc4 14.gxf5 exf5) 12...Bxe4 13.Ncxe4 Qc6 14.d3 f5 15.Nf2 Nf7 16.Nf3 Bd6]

11...Bxe4 12.Ncxe4 e6 

I much prefer Black, since he seems to have a clearer long term plan for expansion in the center.  One sample continuation is 13.d3 Be7 14.Be3 Rc7 15.0-0 0-0 16.d4? Nf5.  If White delays the break, Black can play ...f5 and expand in the center.
  

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Reply #54 - 08/24/07 at 00:03:52
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Got home and found the book.  My memory did not betray me:  1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.g4 is covered at the beginning of Chapter 5, p.166-7.

Also I thought of an idea against the other line I mentioned earlier.  After 1.e4 c5 2.f4 d5 3.Nf3 dxe4 4.Ng5, I think Black has a strong reply with the disruptive 4...Qd4!?.  I have some ideas right now; I'll post them later.  Off to see The Simpsons!
  

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Reply #53 - 08/23/07 at 22:35:48
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For its scope (everything but 2.Nf3), Palliser's book is the most comprehensive I've seen.  I thought I remembered seeing 1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 and an early g4, but maybe my memory is shaky.  (I'll have to check that one later when I get home.)  For 1.e4 c5 2.f4 d5 3.Nf3, I didn't see anything explicitly covered, although Palliser covered 1.e4 c5 2.f4 e6 3.Nf3 d5 I believe, which would transpose if Black played 3...d5.  Of course, there's probably little doubt that 3...dxe4 is most effective, when Black should probably veer from the complications of the queen sac line (4.Ng5 Nf6 5.Bc4 Bg4 6.Bxf7+ Kd7 8.Qxg4) if he wants something simple.  Isn't black perfectly fine if he plays the simple 5.Bc4 e6, letting White have the pawn and arguing that White is not ideally placed in the long term?

However, maybe Black should be careful to avoid the following disaster:   Cheesy

[Event "Champagne-chT"]
[Site "Ardennes"]
[Date "2005.05.05"]
[Round "6"]
[White "Labroche,Jerome"]
[Black "Delmont,Jean Robert"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Eco "B21"]
1.e4 c5 2.f4 d5 3.Nf3 dxe4 4.Ng5 Nf6 5.Bc4 e6 6.Nc3 Be7 7.Qe2 Nc6 8.Ncxe4 Nd4 
9.Qd3 0-0 10.Nxf6+  1-0

And I found one somewhat high profile game.  (Well, I am not sure how strong these guys were at the time.)

[Event "Gausdal zt"]
[Site "Gausdal"]
[Date "1987.01.??"]
[Round "0"]
[White "Hector,Jonny"]
[Black "Yrjola,Jouni"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Eco "B21"]
1.e4 c5 2.f4 d5 3.Nf3 dxe4 4.Ng5 Nf6 5.Bc4 e6 6.Nc3 a6 7.a4 Nc6 8.Ngxe4 Nxe4 
9.Nxe4 Be7 10.d3 0-0 11.0-0 b6 12.Bd2 Bb7 13.Qh5 Nd4 14.c3 g6 15.Qg4 h5 16.Qd1 b5 
17.Ba2 Nf5 18.Qe2 Qd7 19.Rae1 bxa4 20.Ra1 Bd5 21.Be1 a3 22.bxa3 Rfd8 23.Bb1 Qc7 24.Nd2 Bd6 
25.Qf2 c4 26.d4 Rab8 27.Ne4 Be7 28.Ng5 Rb3 29.a4 Qb7 30.Bd2 Rb2 31.Rd1 Bf6 32.Nf3 Bxf3 
33.Qxf3 Qxf3 34.gxf3 Bxd4+ 35.cxd4 Nxd4 36.Be4 f5 37.Be3 Ne2+ 38.Kf1 Rxd1+ 39.Rxd1 fxe4 40.fxe4 c3 
41.Re1 Rb4 42.Kxe2 Rxe4 43.Rc1 Rxa4 44.Kd3 Kf7 45.Rxc3 Ra2 46.Rc7+ Ke8 47.Rc2 Ra4 48.Bd4 Ra5 
49.h4 Ra3+ 50.Ke4 Rh3 51.Ke5 Kd7 52.Bf2 a5 53.Rd2+ Kc6 54.Kxe6 Rh2 55.Rc2+ Kb5 56.Kd5 a4 
57.Rb2+ Ka6 58.Kc6 Rh1 59.Rb8  1-0

One shocking thing I found was that on the www.chesslive.de database, the position after 5.Bc4 is +18 =7 -1 in White's favor!!  (Of course, a major bias is that there are many correspondence games as White played by some player named Krol.)

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I received my copy today. Afer leafing through it seems to be a good work, as one can expect from an author with the reputation, Palliser already has.
I only have one point of critics:
The lines
1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. g4
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1. e4 c5 2. f4 d5 3. Nf3

should have found their way into the book. They have been played by strong Grandmasters and can be quite dangerous for the unprepared oponent.

Perhaps Palliser can cover them in an update of the Anti-Sicilian-Site.

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I was just wondering, what does the book recommend against 2 a3, and does it dismiss it offhand, or should one be wary of it?

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@TopNotch

Thanks for pointing out 3...Ne7!?, something I'd never thought of but rather like, having had a look at it. 

Still waiting for the book to arrive.....didn't Everyman used to print in the UK so that we got the titles before our friends across the pond?! Oh well, we still enjoy that privilege with Gambit books here in Blighty so musn't grumble too much.
  
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Not including the Rossolimo, Moscow, 2 Nf3 d6 3 c3 and 2 Nf3 d6 3 d4 cxd4 4 Qxd4 was not an easy nor a nice decision to make! In the end we decided to focus on non-2 Nf3 lines because:
i. A study of many club games revealed 2 Nc3 Anti-Sicilians to be more common than 2 Nf3 Anti-Sicilians.
ii. Many Sicilian players (but by no means all!) appear better prepared for 2 Nf3 antis than for non-2 Nf3 ones.
iii. Some recent repertoire books only start from 2 Nf3.
iv. And especially because I wanted to cover 2 c3 and 2 Nc3 from the point of view of ...e6, ...d6 and ...Nc6 Sicilian players. Only covering 2 Nc3 Nc6 would not have pleased the Kan player!
  
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With so many enthusiasts I am looking forward to the refutation of Dji's and my attempt to revive the Morra Gambit.  Tongue
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I picked this book up last night after looking at it for an hour in the store.  It looks like it's high quality, my only initial negative comment is one that Palliser has already pointed out: it doesn't deal with 2.Nf3.  That means no Rossilimo, no Moscow, no pure KIA, etc.  

As a big personal positive, this book more closely follows my personal repertoire than Rogozenko's (and Gallagher's) book did.  What that means for everyone else is that you'll get some analysis of different lines here: 1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 e6 3.f4 Nc6 4.Nf3 d5 5.Bb5 Nge7, 1.e4 c5 2.c3 d5, and the Closed Sicilian with ...Nf6 (instead of ...Nge7).  

My first impression is that it's an excellent book.
  
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Alumbrado - many thanks for correcting this thread's title!
Slates - I guess it'll be out over here in 3-4 weeks as it's got to cross the Atlantic after publication, but depending on the printers and distribution it might be somewhat quicker than that. Comparing it with P1d4, it must be said that the format's better! In short the book only covers all those annoying non-2 Nf3 systems, although clearly there are some transpositions and crossovers: i.e. 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3 e6 3 c3 d5 4 e5 gets a mention, but there's no Rossolimo or Moscow coverage.


1 e4 c5 2 Nf3 e6 3 c3 Ne7!? is a very interesting move order trick, intending d5, and if White exchanges pawns on that square Black recaptures with the Knight, thereby avoiding the loss of time associated with the Queen recapture. Should White play e5 to avoid this, then Black captures on d4 followed by Nf5 with comfortable play.

This rare move order was pointed out by GM Andy Soltis in his recent book Transpo Tricks in Chess, and definetly warrants consideration.

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You're probably right. I play more games on ICC and have thus more statistics. Also, I play different openings OTB and on ICC. The OTB dutch, alekhine and 1.c4/g3 are already somewhat offbeat.
  

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Alias wrote on 08/20/07 at 09:48:43:

It's a rather interesting phenomenon at ICC. When I drop in rating (and thus play lower rated players) I meet main lines much less. It's anti sic and d-pawn specials all the time. When having a high rating I mostly meet main lines.

It happens over-the-board too!
  
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It is surprising to hear that Nf3/Bb5 is not included. Of course, there is the recent Bb5 book which has many suggestions for black. After seeing "Bashing The Sicilian" and reading the Bb5 parts of Kaufman's "Chess Advantage" I was optimistic for white's chances. After reading (parts of) Palliser's Bb5 book, I now feel that these positions offer white very little.

Now there will not be much on Nf3 lines, meaning that this probably will complement the Safest and Sharpest Sicilians books from Chess Stars well.

It's a rather interesting phenomenon at ICC. When I drop in rating (and thus play lower rated players) I meet main lines much less. It's anti sic and d-pawn specials all the time. When having a high rating I mostly meet main lines.
  

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Well, given that Richard has already written an acclaimed tome on The Rossolimo and Moscow, I guess writing such chapters would have been considered money for old rope by the consumer! Wink
  

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No Rossolimo or Moscow?  That's too bad.  Most Open Sicilian books don't cover the Rossolimo or Moscow either, so most people expect to buy one open Sicilian book and one anti Sicilian book to cover their repertoire.  I play 2...e6, though, so these lines aren't a problem for me Smiley.
  
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Thanks Richard - I've placed my order with an Amazon marketplace supplier who claim to have it in stock in the UK already, so that's good.....

No Rossolimo coverage?  Smiley  As a 2...e6 player I think I can live with that. 

I remember you commenting on the format of P1d4 previously, and I agree it is rather densely presented, so good that you're more satisfied with this one.

  
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Alumbrado - many thanks for correcting this thread's title!
Slates - I guess it'll be out over here in 3-4 weeks as it's got to cross the Atlantic after publication, but depending on the printers and distribution it might be somewhat quicker than that. Comparing it with P1d4, it must be said that the format's better! In short the book only covers all those annoying non-2 Nf3 systems, although clearly there are some transpositions and crossovers: i.e. 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3 e6 3 c3 d5 4 e5 gets a mention, but there's no Rossolimo or Moscow coverage.
  
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Thanks urusov, useful review. So in the c3 section it's a 3...d5 approach for Taimanov players after 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.c3, then.  This will be interesting as an alternative to the ...Nf6 lines given in the Safest Sicilian, lines I tend to play badly!

Looking forward to seeing the book in the UK.
  
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Is the book already out? Everyman mentions it is only coming soon. Huh
  

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I thought Palliser's book was excellent and have written a short review accompanied by some analysis of a line he considers at some length following 1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 a6!? (one of his recommended anti-2.Nc3 ideas).
http://www.kenilworthchessclub.org/kenilworthian/2007/08/richard-pallisers-fight...

I was very impressed by the book and was happy to finally find someone who built a black repertoire around ...e6 and ...a6 in many lines rather than the typically recommended kingside finachetto systems.  Highly recommended.
  
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Alas this is not true anymore. There are several variations, in which the typical setup Qe2, Bf4, Rfd1, Rac1 is insufficient: the Dragon, the 6...a6 variation, all the ...Nge7 variations, the early queenside expansion.
I am not rated higher. Still it is my impression that studying the Morra Gambit takes more time these days than most Open Sicilians (eg a repertoire based on 6.g3 or 6.Be2).
  

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kylemeister wrote on 06/08/07 at 17:24:12:


The late American GM Edmar Mednis thought that the Wing is better than the Morra, citing the same reason you give.

I think Morra is popular for the same reason Colle system is popular at club levels... the pieces "belong" on very typical stereotyped squares, so one can very quickly grasp the whole concept of the opening.  Less concrete calculations are required b/c Morra (like Colle) is very conceptual and thematic.

The Wing gambit is more of a 19th century gambit seeking open lines and a big center rather than long-term positional pressure-- ie, Morra aims for longterm pressure on c & d files.  Wing gambit strikes me as more of a Evans Gambit type opening.

disclaimer: i am low rated (~1800), and i have not studied these openings in depth.
  

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I was just wondering if there's any update on when this book will be out in the UK, firstly, and secondly I'm not sure that Richard answered the earlier question over whether or not the book will also cover lines where Black starts with 2...e6, as I do.   

If anyone owns a copy (I notice that Amazon in the USA have it showing in stock) I'd like to hear their thoughts on it.

I own Play 1d4! by Mr Palliser and like the way that book was written, so would hope that this new effort would be as thorough and well researched, to appeal to as many of us Sicilian players as possible....

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Why on earth has the thread title not yet been corrected, when one of the management team (R. Palliser) here noticed it?


Principally because
(a) I just don't spend that much time here any more - if someobody wants to take over moderator duties on any of 'my' sections, please let me (and Tony K!) know ...; and
(b) more importantly, I don't know how - there doesn't seem to be a 'rename topic' button anywhere, unless I just can't see it ... I have tried renaming the subject line of the initial thread - and also the last thread.  Hope that helps?!
  

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Why on earth has the thread title not yet been corrected, when one of the management team (R. Palliser) here noticed it? 


Yes, come on, we all know Gary's name has a double L  Cheesy

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Why on earth has the thread title not yet been corrected, when one of the management team (R. Palliser) here noticed it? 
  
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Of course. 1.c4 e5 (c5) 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.g3 g6 4.Bg2 Bg7 5.d3 and 6.e4.
There is 6.Bg5 in the Panov Caro-Kann.
There is 7.Bd3 in the Orthodox QGD.
Botvinnik also popularized the Dutch Stonewall.
  

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Well, everyone knows a lot about how to play against the Morra. The problem however is that there are also some persons who play the Closed Sicilian, Alapin etc.

In the book of Palliser (Starting Out: The Closed Sicilian), he plays an early 6 .. Rb8 against the fasionable 6. Be3, (Fisher's move) and then he recommends 10. .. e5 instead of e6. Is this also the recommendation in the new anti-Sicilan book  Roll Eyes ?! I would like to play this with black, with some extra background information from an IM/GM.

Well, an early 6 .. e5 is also good, with some sort of Botvinnik structure, that was recommended by Palliser in Unusual Openings, against almost all responses that are not e4 and d4.

By the way, I think that I have a fetish of playing Botvinnik openings Shocked Shocked Huh Wink 
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If you are lazy, play 2...Nf6 against the 2.c3 Sicilian and 3...Nf6 against the Morragambit.
Else begin studying the 6...a6 variation (without ...e6). If you don't like it, then the ...Nge7 variation (without ...d6).
  

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kylemeister wrote on 06/08/07 at 17:24:12:
Hoppers wrote on 06/08/07 at 17:07:13:

Having just looked back at my edition of Gallagher, I was reminded that the Wing Gambit will be covered too, where apparently Nigel Davies has come up with some interesting new ideas in his 'Gambiteer book'.

Which is the inferior line?  Having looked at Gallagher and Rogozenkos' analysis, it would seem that the Wing Gambit has the worse reputation, but to me this doesn't make 'chess sense'.  Sacrificing a wing pawn, to me at least, seems a lesser evil than saccing a centre pawn.

Any other anti sicilian gambits?  I once faced the 'Halasz Attack' after 1 e4 c5 2 d4 cxd4 3 f4, but 3...d5! is a simple and good antidote.


The late American GM Edmar Mednis thought that the Wing is better than the Morra, citing the same reason you give.


on the other hand if you like to attake you need open lines, seems to me more logical to have it in the center than on the queenswing. At least I more difficulties to face the Morra than the winggambit, however I havent read any of the mentioned books.
  
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Can this thread title not be corrected? Angry Wink

Good point, Willempie. IMO Morra positions can become quite complex (or even sharp should Black wish), but crucially there's always that extra pawn in the bank...
  
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kylemeister wrote on 06/08/07 at 23:40:26:
I often find it rather difficult to disagree with MNb.

Well I usually dont Grin

This time though I dont. Just want to add that the open gives the same type of play as the Morra, just without losing a pawn.
  

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I often find it rather difficult to disagree with MNb.
  
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Thaks for that MNB, just goes to show that modern chess is more about precise calculation than general ideas... damn the computer era! Wink
  

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[quote author=Uberdeker link=1180038915/15#18 date=1181319330]True, this is indeed the only point of playing the Morra rather than the Alapin move-order. I think this one of MNb's favorite subjects, so you can expect him to merrily chime in. My only contibution is this : Black has an independant attempt in 4. ...Ktf6.  [/quote]

As I don't want to disappoint Uberdeker, here I go.
Even 1.e4 c5 2.d4 cxd4 3.c3 d5 4.exd5 Qxd5 is not as bad for Black, as theory wants it. Still, the possibility of playing an early Nc3 gives White a few extra options. Turning them into something concrete is another matter. Eg 5.cxd4 Nc6 6.Nf3 e6 7.Nc3 Qd6 (not Qd8 8.Bc4 Nf6, which is the Steinitz Variation of the QGA; the early ...cxd4 is thought to benefit White) 8.Bc4 and it is not sure, if White has an advantage or how big.
The independent 4...Nf6 is inferior because of the typical reply 5.Bb5+.

Another line, where the Morra move order might benefit White compared to the Lasker-Alapin (2.c3) is 2...d6. After 1.e4 c5 2.c3 d6 3.d4 Nf6 4.Bd3 (or 4.f3) White has made a concession. Or has he? After 1.e4 c5 2.d4 cxd4 3.c3 d6 4.cxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 White can consider developing his bishop to c4, but has to watch out for ...Nxe4 tricks, eg g6 6.Nf3 Bg7 7.Bc4 0-0 8.0-0 Nxe4!. So White should play 8.Bb3 instead.

The trouble with the Wing's Gambit (I have tried it a few times) is, that it does not provide a lead in development like the Morra Gambit and does not really deflect a centre pawn. The extra pawn on b4 can be a nuisance and as a consequence Black has no trouble playing ...d5. Not surprisingly this is the main antidote. I have tried to revive 1.e4 c5 2.b4 cxb4 3.d4, but after d5 4.exd5 Qxd5 (Nf6 is not bad either) White's central superiority is only minimal. In another thread someone (I am forgotten who and don't feel like finding out) gave 3.a3 d5 4.exd5 Nf6 5.axb4 Nxd5 6.d4 e5! 7.c3 exd4 8.Qxd4 Nc6 9.Bb5 Rossetto-Sanguinetti, Sao Paulo 1957, Be7! This nicely illustrates White's problem: Black is the one, who is speeding up development.
So I disagree with Mednis and Hoppers here. White's strategy to give up a pawn for centre dominance simply fails.

If White insists on forming a gambit repertoire against the Sicilian, (s)he can consider the Bb5 variations. A few examples are (1.e4 c5 2.Nf3)
2...Nc6 3.Bb5 g6 4.0-0 Bg7 5.c3 Nf6 6.d4
2...Nc6 3.Bb5 g6 4.0-0 Bg7 5.Re1 e5 6.b4
2...d6 3.Bb5+ Bd7 4.Bxd7+ Qxd7 5.0-0 Nc6 6.c3 Nf6 7.d4

and after 2...e6 3.d4 cxd4 the Morra Gambit 4.c3 is a relatively stronger because of Black's second move. The Wing's Gambit Delayed 3.b4 cxb4 4.d4 Nf6 5.Bd3 d5 has a bad reputation.

My experience though, is that keeping up with the theoretical developments in such gambits and trying to find new ideas to keep them alive, takes so much time, that playing interesting less topical variations of the Open Siclian is easier. Playing through a dozen of GM-games will give you an idea what to do and takes less effort. This is one of the few points, I wholeheartedly agree upon with Willempie. Heck, White has much more choice after 2.Nf3 and 3.d4.
To save time picking up the Morra or the Wing's Gambit was a good idea 25 years ago, but not anymore in Silicon Age. White will quickly and often get outprepared.
  

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Reply #20 - 06/08/07 at 17:24:12
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Hoppers wrote on 06/08/07 at 17:07:13:

Having just looked back at my edition of Gallagher, I was reminded that the Wing Gambit will be covered too, where apparently Nigel Davies has come up with some interesting new ideas in his 'Gambiteer book'.

Which is the inferior line?  Having looked at Gallagher and Rogozenkos' analysis, it would seem that the Wing Gambit has the worse reputation, but to me this doesn't make 'chess sense'.  Sacrificing a wing pawn, to me at least, seems a lesser evil than saccing a centre pawn.

Any other anti sicilian gambits?  I once faced the 'Halasz Attack' after 1 e4 c5 2 d4 cxd4 3 f4, but 3...d5! is a simple and good antidote.


The late American GM Edmar Mednis thought that the Wing is better than the Morra, citing the same reason you give.
  
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Having just looked back at my edition of Gallagher, I was reminded that the Wing Gambit will be covered too, where apparently Nigel Davies has come up with some interesting new ideas in his 'Gambiteer book'.

Which is the inferior line?  Having looked at Gallagher and Rogozenkos' analysis, it would seem that the Wing Gambit has the worse reputation, but to me this doesn't make 'chess sense'.  Sacrificing a wing pawn, to me at least, seems a lesser evil than saccing a centre pawn.

Any other anti sicilian gambits?  I once faced the 'Halasz Attack' after 1 e4 c5 2 d4 cxd4 3 f4, but 3...d5! is a simple and good antidote.
  

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Reply #18 - 06/08/07 at 16:15:30
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True, this is indeed the only point of playing the Morra rather than the Alapin move-order. I think this one of MNb's favorite subjects, so you can expect him to merrily chime in. My only contibution is this : Black has an independant attempt in 4. ...Ktf6.
  
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Yeah, playing 2. d4 cd 3. c3 d5 isn't considered a fully-fledged way of declining, since after 4. ed Qxd5 5. cd White can soon play Nc3 (Black generally doesn't allow that so readily after 2. c3 d5) ...  
  
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Interesting thought, that maybe strong players would steer away from 1. e4 c5 2. d4 cd 3. c3 Nf6 for sake of avoiding the mainlines of the 2. c3 Nf6 sicilian.  Then if Black plays  3. c3 d5 instead, does he concede anything  from the regular 2. c3 d5 lines ? if so, it could be an idea to play 2. d4 first (or against 2. c3 d5 players). But can White gain something with 1. e4 c5 2. d4 cd 3. c3 d5 compared to 1. e4 c5 2. c3 d5 ? sorry for revealing such ignorance at move 2 on a chess openings website  Huh
  
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Reply #15 - 06/07/07 at 22:25:51
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I was glad to see that Peter Wells (successfully) played the 6...a6 line (my favourite) recently in the 4NCL (Brit league).  My impression is that it isn't played very frequently by GMs when they are faced with the gambit.  I've been surprised to see several GMs decline the gambit by 3...d3, which seems to give White good chances for an edge (and thus, I would think, swings the objective evaluation of the position from =+ to += in one move).  Presumably the GMs who play that way want to avoid the possible dangers (or drawishness, in the case of declining by 3...Nf6) of main lines, and figure that 3...d3 still gives them plenty of scope to outplay their generally significantly lower-rated opponents.    
  
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For some concrete lines on 6...a6 I refer to the game Hague-Uberdeker.

http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1154029852

This game did not exactly encouraging me to pick up the Morra again.


On the quick queenside expansion:

http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1159716408

From White's point of view I suspect, that studying the Morra takes as much time as the Open Sicilian. The difference is of course not the lacking pawn, but the fact, that White has a much wider choice against all the defences of the Open Sicilian. Eg against the Najdorf there is 6.g3, 6.a4, 6.f4, 6.Be3, 6.Bc4, 6.Bg5, 6.Be2 and sorry if I forget someone's pet line.
Against 4...e6; 5...a6; 6...b5; and 7...Bb7 White basically has only one attacking plan. The gambit 8.0-0 is not really independent, as after d6 White will probably have to play 9.Qe2 anyway. I think this a big objection.
  

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Reply #13 - 06/07/07 at 10:20:40
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Of course you can join in MNB, you can bring far more to the table than I can! Smiley

I agree that I would like to see ...a6 and ...d6.  There seemed nothing wrong with the line when Gallagher wrote about it, so I presume it just needs updating.  I seem to recall that 7 b4 was one not so ludicrous looking idea that needed dealing with and I remember 'Pantu' once having a game in York with 7 Bg5, although the resulting Rauzer positions a pawn up looked pretty non- threatening for black.  White had an open c-file and a tempo or so, but black is well used to having play on that avenue too in mainline sicilians, so I aren't sure that a pawn deficit really helps white!

Obviously, these are just words and need to be backed up by moves though!   

Interesting to see that game TopNotch, I seem to recall seeing that in a Motwani book and thinking it was good, but I guess time and tide wait for no man!

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Reply #12 - 06/07/07 at 01:53:32
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Hoppers wrote on 06/06/07 at 16:06:25:

 I too am interested to see The Anti- Morra recommendation.  In the past, I just memorised the line given in NCO as =/+, involving a quick e6/a6/b5, but in practical games, white just met ...b4 with Nd5 sacs and whatever the objective assessment, white players were typically happy with their practical chances!

Finally, I am looking forward to the reaction of Morra players, because practitioners of such gambits tend to defend them to the hilt and well...the BDG threads have gone a bit quiet! Wink


I hope, that ex-Morra players like me may participate as well, even though I will not defend this gambit to the hilt.  Wink
Frankly I do not trust that quick e6/a6/b5 variation for Black. Indeed, there are Nd5 sacs in abundance. If that is not possible (ie Black does not play ...b5-b4), White just develops and doubles rooks on the d-file. In general White must postpone the loss of tempo a2-a3 as long as possible. There are a few games by Mladen Zelic, which show this strategy.
I do not trust those ...Bc5 lines either. In TN's example White can try Nunn's recommendation 10.Bf4 e5 11.Ng5.
The other defence with 6...a6 is in perfect shape though. At the moment 7.Qe2 (or 7.0-0) Nf6 8.h3 seems White's best try, which is quite lame of course after ...e6. Compare 6...e6 7.0-0 Be7 8.Qe2 a6 etc, where White can play more active moves than x.h3.
If Black is willing to do some more preparation, 4...Nc6 5.Nf3 e6 6.Bc4 a6 7.0-0 Nge7 8.Bg5 f6 9.Be3 Ng6 is also good.
Finally I maintain, that the Fianchetto Defence 4...g6 5.Nf3 Bg7 6.Bc4 Bg7 7.e5 is underrated. After all two pawns are quite a lot. At the other hand Black exactly must know what he is doing in order to avoid getting crushed.
  

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Reply #11 - 06/06/07 at 22:40:37
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Hoppers wrote on 06/06/07 at 16:06:25:

 I too am interested to see The Anti- Morra recommendation.  In the past, I just memorised the line given in NCO as =/+, involving a quick e6/a6/b5, but in practical games, white just met ...b4 with Nd5 sacs and whatever the objective assessment, white players were typically happy with their practical chances!

One of my greatest disappointments in recent years was when Rogozenko just recommended 3...Nf6 in typically solid Eastern European fashion, because, "Black isn't worse in the c3 sicilian".  Fair enough, but I tend to side with Gallaghers' old argument that it's better to take a pawn and suffer a little than not at all.

Finally, I am looking forward to the reaction of Morra players, because practitioners of such gambits tend to defend them to the hilt and well...the BDG threads have gone a bit quiet! Wink


Yes Rogozenko dodging the Morra was a real cop out, not to mention that his suggested bail out, namely the Alapin, he now considers as promising for White.  Angry 

Honestly, is the Morra so dangerous or was Rogo saving space?

These would be my recommendations  had I written the book: 1.e4 c5 2.d4 cd4 3.c3 dxc3 4.Nxc3 Nc6 5.Nf3 d6 6.Bc4 a6! [an important move] 7.0-0 Nf6 Incidentally this seems to be variation of choice among most of the top British players.

Alternatively I also like the way GM M. Chandler handled the gambit in the following game: 1.e4 c5 2.d4 cd4 3.c3 dxc3 4.Nxc3 e6 5.Nf3 Bc5 The black bishop is quite active here, and in essence says to White I have an extra pawn and the initiative, which is not a very good ad for a gambit by any means 6.Bc4 d6! this discourages e5 and prepares to meet Bf4 with e5. I much prefer 6...d6 to the more common 6...Ne7. The Chandler game concluded:

[Site Walsall]
[Date 1992.]
[White Down,Nick ]
[Black Chandler,Murray]
[Result 0-1]
[ECO B21]
[Round 1]

7. O-O a6 8. a3 Ne7 9. b4 Ba7 10. Qe2 O-O 11. Bf4 Ng6 12. Bg3 Nc6 13. Rfd1 e5 14. Qd2 Bg4 15. Qxd6 Bxf3 16. gxf3 Qg5 17. Qd2 Qxd2 18. Rxd2 Nd4 19. Kg2 Rac8 0-1


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  I too am interested to see The Anti- Morra recommendation.  In the past, I just memorised the line given in NCO as =/+, involving a quick e6/a6/b5, but in practical games, white just met ...b4 with Nd5 sacs and whatever the objective assessment, white players were typically happy with their practical chances!

One of my greatest disappointments in recent years was when Rogozenko just recommended 3...Nf6 in typically solid Eastern European fashion, because, "Black isn't worse in the c3 sicilian".  Fair enough, but I tend to side with Gallaghers' old argument that it's better to take a pawn and suffer a little than not at all.

Finally, I am looking forward to the reaction of Morra players, because practitioners of such gambits tend to defend them to the hilt and well...the BDG threads have gone a bit quiet! Wink
  

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Looks interesting, I will give it a try next time I face him Smiley
  
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Reply #8 - 06/05/07 at 21:52:42
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Against the Morra, I've always liked the line 1. e4 c5 2. d4 cxd4 3. c3 dxc3 4. Nxc3 a6 5. Nf3 e6 6. Bc4 b5 7. Bb3 Bb7 8. Qe2 d6 9. O-O Be7 10. Rfd1 Nd7. It's a very easy system to play and Black scores extremely well with it
  
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Since a player in my local club always plays the Morra I am a but curios what system you recommend against it?
  
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Reply #6 - 06/03/07 at 18:16:14
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2 Na3 and 2 a3 make it - not 2 a4 or 2 Nh3 I'm afraid.
In general there's two lines for Black against all W's major alternatives to 2 Nf3: 2 c3, the Closed, Grand Prix (both versions), 2 b3 and the Morra.
  
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Is it meant to be exhaustive? That is to say, does it cover all the odd-ball (but not pointless) early sidelines such as 2. Kta3 , 2. a4 and 2. a3 (2. Kth3 would be taking the attempt at completeness a bit too far maybe) ?
  
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Reply #4 - 06/01/07 at 14:46:10
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The book's finished I believe...but you might need to ask Mr Palliser and/or change the title of this thread.  Wink
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I'm also very interested in this new Book of Palliser. 

His books: Starting Out: Najdorf and closed Sicilian, and Beating unusual chess openings are one of the best written books about openings I have ever seen.

I have a question about the contents. Is this written for a Najdorf player of for all Sicilian players, like the anti-Sicilian book of Rogozenko? 

I liked the tree-formation of Beating unusual chess openings, is this also the case in his new book, or is it explained with annoted games (Please Palliser don't do that) ?
  
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The book is expected to be available in August (US) and September (EU)
http://www.everymanchess.com/display.php?id=435
  

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Reply #1 - 05/25/07 at 03:40:38
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I too am interested in this...and I didn't see anything on Amazon (they usually have estimated publishing dates).

I loved Gallagher's Anti-Sicilian tome and would enjoy a more up-to-date book. If the quality is similar to "Starting Out: Najdorf", then it's a no brainer.
  
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Palliser's Anti-Sicilians book
05/24/07 at 20:35:15
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When will the new Anti Sicilian book of supertheoretican Palister apear.
And if mr.Palister read this message what are the recommended lines versus
Alapin
closed sicilan
Bb5
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