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Re: Scholastics
Reply #9 - 05/30/07 at 10:32:24
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What a lucky bunch of kids to have people like you all as coaches/advisors. During my time we had nothing. Even the teacher advisor of the club didnt suggest anything to do, what openings to play, which areas to work more on individually etc.  Neither was he a great player himself, constantly losing to the school's best players. Even I had taken a few points off him when I was a 3rd team player.

Training sessions for us were staying back in school & playing against each other. On Fridays a few of us wld go to the local chess club & play with other people. No games were recorded or analysed. Just play, play & play; so average players like meself never learnt anything abt analysing own games & neither were most of the best school players willing to explain or point out any mistakes to us weaker ones.

The best players in school were all self made & non coached. Probably they studied chess all the time at the expense of their formal studies cos none of them did well enough to progress to tertiary level. education.
  

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Re: Scholastics
Reply #8 - 05/30/07 at 10:03:58
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In addition to Markovich: I did something similar, but had puzzle workbooks as well, which was designed for specific levels. Lowest level had simple mate in one and capturing undefended pieces. This went up to pins, skewers etc. They were standard for the dutch federation, so they might have something similar in the US.
  

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Re: Scholastics
Reply #7 - 05/29/07 at 18:10:45
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Sandman wrote on 05/27/07 at 22:57:56:
Markovich,

how do you handle each of the class sessions? Do you have a structured format you follow for each shool year from beginnig to end? Or do you let the kids play and watch over their games and then point out things afterwards during analysis? Do you discuss the basic "must-know" mates and simple tactics during your mini-lessons or individually with the students? I hope you don't mind if I ask you for more pointers as things progress.   
Thanks for your time.


With "Chess Club," the main group, we have 5-10 mini-lessons before play.  With "Chess Team," the select group (which also attends Chess Club -- actually, attendance at Chess Club is mandatory for Team members) this may extend to 20-30 minutes, or 15 minutes at each end of the meeting.  The main instructional vehicle is the demo board.

I don't have a set program at all, nor do I necessarily teach the same points every year.  Well, I do always teach how to mate with K+Q vs K and how with K+R vs K.  I work with kids who span a wide spectrum of age and ability.  Many of the young ones don't really have a discernable game at first, but just put their pieces on ridiculous squares.  On the other hand I have to teach some pretty strong scholastic players.  So I tailor what I say to the given group.  With ignorant players you have to spend a lot of time emphasizing the importance of material, both holding onto it and winning it.   

I emphasize the importance of good bearing when playing chess; sit up, don't slouch, don't talk, hum or listen to music, and act like you're paying attention.  The hand never goes to the board before the move is decided, something that can't be emphasized often enough.  When it's not your turn to move, scan the board, note the activity of every piece, and entertain little fantasies about what various pieces could do.  When it is your turn, calculate.  Have your opponent's best reply in mind before you move.  This kind of stuff I will say even while games are in progress.

With everyone, I emphasize piece activity.  "When is an knight active?", "When is a bishop active?" and so forth, are points to which I am always teaching.  Once in a while subjects such as isolated pawns, backward pawns and the like come up, but chiefly in context of, "Where is a good square for this knight?"  I teach that a pawn is not really "active" before it reaches the 6th rank, but that its main use is to restrict the activity of the enemy pieces.  I do not teach about pawn structure much at all, except for very critical points such as a color weakness around one's king.

Some very basic things you have to make sure the better ones understand are what to do when you're ahead in material and what to do when you're behind; and likewise with space.  An amazing number of scholastic players will toss away a perfectly fine space and activity advantage by swapping down.  By the time they understand that sort of thing, you also have to start working on endings.

Very few points about chess do I teach in the abstract; I usually will teach in context of a game we're all looking at, or when talking to some player about his position.  But like I said before, we spend a lot more time playing than we do listening to the coach give advice about chess.  Experience is the best teacher.

One little point is that when you play a kid, give him your best game, try hard to win, and don't coach him until the game is over.  Correcting a kid's move is a good way to undermine his confidence.  Just beat him, then talk about it.  Set a good example with iron determination to win and with proper bearing.  When you're working with the demo board is a good time to model your own thinking for them, but you can to this to a limited exent when playing.  You can say, "Well, in this position I am going to try to use my more active pieces to attack your castled position," and the like.
  

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Re: Scholastics
Reply #6 - 05/27/07 at 22:57:56
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Markovich,

how do you handle each of the class sessions? Do you have a structured format you follow for each shool year from beginnig to end? Or do you let the kids play and watch over their games and then point out things afterwards during analysis? Do you discuss the basic "must-know" mates and simple tactics during your mini-lessons or individually with the students? I hope you don't mind if I ask you for more pointers as things progress.   
Thanks for your time.
  

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Re: Scholastics
Reply #5 - 05/25/07 at 20:31:12
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Sandman wrote on 05/25/07 at 19:05:04:
Thanks Markovich, etc.


My wife teaches, and my sons, now adults, went to school where I volunteer.  I assume you'll have sort of support/liason who is a teacher delegated to oversee the chess program.  You'll need to establish good rapport with this person.  I think if you tell the school what you have in mind, they'll follow your advice.   

I would just tell them that teaching the moves would be a big waste of your time, and you expect players to come already knowing that.  I routinely send kids back who come merely claiming to know the moves.  It's ridiculous to have to fool around with someone whose knights move in strange ways and whose king constantly walks into check.  You always have to do some of this, but it's wise to keep it to a minimum.  You'll lose the interest of the ones really keen on chess if you have to spend your time teaching some perfectly ignorant kid how a pawn capture is different from a pawn advance.

If a kid is interested in chess, he can easily learn the moves from another kid.  We do delegate specific kids as "teachers" to help certain other kids learn the moves outside of chess club.  The key word is "outside."
  

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Reply #4 - 05/25/07 at 19:05:04
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[quote author=Markovich link=1180104752/0#2 date=1180117366
For 14 years, I've been "Volunteer Coach" at a local elementary school (K-5), and our kids have had great success, winning several state championships and some high national honors.  This year we have 6th graders also, and we're moving to a K-8 program one year at a time.

The main things that I would advise are (1) keep play rather formal at all club meetings (touch-move, keep quiet, use clocks if feasible); (2) play all club games against a simple challenge ladder that is on public display at all times (this implies, you do all the pairings); (3) don't teach anyone how the pieces move -- expect them to come knowing this (you may have to teach the fine points of castling, the en passant pawn capture rule, and so forth); (4) don't rely on lectures -- if you need to instruct, do a 5-10 minute mini-lesson before play begins; (5) consider having a select group of players that will receive more instruction and play in external competitions -- select based on enthusiasm for the game, ability in relation to age, and fighting qualities.

A ladder on public display is the single most important thing, because it encourages competition. [/quote]

Wow. Thanks Markovich. very good points. I was already planning on the formal part (or at least as formal as possible).  good points about publicly displaying the ladder and keeping it to mini-lessons if necessary. I also like your point about having a select group of players in addition to the actual "club". I'm not sure if there will be some kids that do not know the moves or not. It's up to the administration and the kids that sign up.   This position is voluntary for me as well and I don't know how much say I will have in some things. I really have no interest in breaking it into two separate classes..........    Lips Sealed    My wife works for the school system and one thing led to another, and here I am asking for help.    Wink
  

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Reply #3 - 05/25/07 at 18:52:17
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Will the players be completely new to chess, or will they know how to move pieces etc, or what level of skill do you think they are at?



I don't know. I'm sure it will probably be some mixture.  The Middle school called me this past Monday and asked if I'd be willing to setup and coach a chess team. My guess is ti will be whoever wants to sign up in the beginning, and may taper off afterwards.
  

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Re: Scholastics
Reply #2 - 05/25/07 at 18:22:46
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Sandman wrote on 05/25/07 at 14:52:32:
Does anyone have any suggesstions or advice on starting a scholastic chess club (middle school mostly ages 11-13)? Any papers, articles, lesson plans, syllabus, etc would be a big help as it would keep me from "recreating the wheel".  I'm trying to gather things now and prepare over the summer as the club won't start til this fall. 

Any help or advice is greatly appreciated.


For 14 years, I've been "Volunteer Coach" at a local elementary school (K-5), and our kids have had great success, winning several state championships and some high national honors.  This year we have 6th graders also, and we're moving to a K-8 program one year at a time.

The main things that I would advise are (1) keep play rather formal at all club meetings (touch-move, keep quiet, use clocks if feasible); (2) play all club games against a simple challenge ladder that is on public display at all times (this implies, you do all the pairings); (3) don't teach anyone how the pieces move -- expect them to come knowing this (you may have to teach the fine points of castling, the en passant pawn capture rule, and so forth); (4) don't rely on lectures -- if you need to instruct, do a 5-10 minute mini-lesson before play begins; (5) consider having a select group of players that will receive more instruction and play in external competitions -- select based on enthusiasm for the game, ability in relation to age, and fighting qualities.

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Re: Scholastics
Reply #1 - 05/25/07 at 18:13:14
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Will the players be completely new to chess, or will they know how to move pieces etc, or what level of skill do you think they are at?
  

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05/25/07 at 14:52:32
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Does anyone have any suggesstions or advice on starting a scholastic chess club (middle school mostly ages 11-13)? Any papers, articles, lesson plans, syllabus, etc would be a big help as it would keep me from "recreating the wheel".  I'm trying to gather things now and prepare over the summer as the club won't start til this fall. 

Any help or advice is greatly appreciated.
  

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