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Re: Winning at correspondence chess
Reply #2 - 05/26/07 at 20:08:56
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The Dutch. I have played two games with now. In the first, my computer told me I had a disadvantage of 0.5; I won. In the other - I am sure HgMan will remember that one - according to Silicon Power I had equalized, while I realized, I faced serious difficulties. HgMan won.
Overall computers are highly unreliable in positions with unequal material, where tactics are beyond their horizon. So I am not surprised, Inn2 mentions the Slav-Botvinnik. It is probably also true for the Meran (Reynolds Attack and so on).
  

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Re: Winning at correspondence chess
Reply #1 - 05/26/07 at 16:13:23
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If i recall correctly, there was some mention abt computers not being very reliable when evaluating KIDs in some old thread.

But i tend to also wonder how computers evaluate certain types of backward queen pawns eg the d6 pawns in the KID & the Boleslavsky or Be2 Najdorf. They look weak at 1st glance but on deeper evaluation they arent really weak or playing to exploit them immediately wld cause serious compromises in your own position.

I also recall a comment that computers also have trouble with blocked pawn structures. There's this game I played against my computer, I either played a breyer or chigorin defense against his Lopez & ended up in a blocked pawns type of position, & the computer had problems playing against it. I thought some of its moves were quite aimless & I was happy to just play waiting moves.
  

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Winning at correspondence chess
05/26/07 at 14:34:22
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In another thread on computers and positional chess, I expressed my surprise at how computers had some difficulty assessing IQP positions when the rooks came off the board.  Inspired by MNb's comment that he might have to reconsider his correspondence repertoire in lieu of this, I thought it might be worth discussing lines that computers do not handle well, lines in which organic grey matter (research and preparation) trumped silicon speed.

I have found that computers typically underestimate the Bird (1.f4) as a bad move and it often takes a dozen moves for it to concede that White might have an advantage.  But surely there are some openings--especially of the closed variety--that correspondence players might find that they can use to good effect.  Inn2 mentioned computers weren't much help in the Semi-Slav Moscow/Botvinnik.  I presume the Dragon might fit this bill, too?  Others?
  

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