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Re: English Premier League, 2007-2008
Reply #68 - 09/12/07 at 22:06:40
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 09/12/07 at 21:41:29:
Willempie, 

It's not often I get to gloat, but Guus Hiddink's side lost today to England (remember that sorry lot?) 3-0.  A scouser, Michael Owen, scored a brace to bring home the victory!  All we need to do is keep our heads about us and stay on pace.


Maybe the Dutch and English will have another classic match next year!

Let me put it like this. From what I have seen England played really good and deserved the win. From what I have seen Russia would have toasted our *ss. Now I am quite arrogant and think that the Dutch team isnt worse than the English squad. So something is very wrong with our team, certainly when you consider the English team is coached by McLaren...
  

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Reply #67 - 09/12/07 at 21:41:29
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Willempie, 

It's not often I get to gloat, but Guus Hiddink's side lost today to England (remember that sorry lot?) 3-0.  A scouser, Michael Owen, scored a brace to bring home the victory!  All we need to do is keep our heads about us and stay on pace.


Maybe the Dutch and English will have another classic match next year!
  
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Re: English Premier League, 2007-2008
Reply #66 - 09/12/07 at 21:07:13
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Another lousy game won by the help of Lady Luck (or rather an idiotic ref). How the hell he could see a foul with the Albanian goal is beyond me.

This is not the coach that will win us the EC

Angry Angry Angry
  

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Reply #65 - 09/12/07 at 07:28:16
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I had forgotten the name but not the goal.

Sunderland 1 Leeds 0 1973 FA Cup Final.

The goal scorer, 


Ian Porterfield


passed away at the age of 61.  

Thanks for the memory of a great FA Cup run and a fantastic goal!
  
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Reply #64 - 09/11/07 at 07:01:44
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MNb wrote on 09/10/07 at 22:04:57:

Frankly when things are not going well I prefer boring but controlling and winning matches to pathetic tries to reach the impossible. A small country like The Netherlands only can produce brilliant football once in a while. I hope Van Basten continues the path of realism and will focus on the defensive problems in the near future. Suddenly, when nobody expects it anymore, the spark of inspiration might strike. For this to happen a solid fundament is mandatory and that is still lacking.

It might help if he just keeps players in after an under-par performance in stead of immediately kicking them out again. The only players who dont seem to be impacted personally by this behaviour seem to be the ones who already proven themselves, like RVN or Van Bommel. Just check how guys like Heytinga, Huntelaar, Maduro (just to name a few Ajax ones, same goes for AZ) performed after they had been selected and kicked out again after one bad performance.
  

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Re: English Premier League, 2007-2008
Reply #63 - 09/11/07 at 01:49:39
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 09/10/07 at 22:57:50:
@MNb and other Dutch, 

Pace!

When I mentioned the English language penchant for calling Nederlands "Holland", I wasn't agreeing with the habit.


I know and even if you would I wouldn't mind. It is just that you gave me the chance to digress on yet another favourite subject of mine ...

Hup Holland Hup!
Laat de leeuw niet in zijn hempie staan
Hup Holland hup
Trek het beessie geen pantoffels aan


Go Holland go!
don't make the lion look foolish
Go Holland go
don't put the animal slippers on

or something like that.  Wink
I sincerely hope to hear this song again the next time Oranje meets/beats England.
  

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Re: English Premier League, 2007-2008
Reply #62 - 09/10/07 at 22:57:50
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@MNb and other Dutch, 

Pace!

When I mentioned the English language penchant for calling Nederlands "Holland", I wasn't agreeing with the habit.  I merely wanted to make clear that those who do use the term for one state within the Netherlands to describe the entire country aren't necessarily xenophobic twits who don't know anything.  It's part of the English language culture, and perhaps knowing some Dutch will change this. 

Back to soccer.

I mean football. 

I mean.... 

Embarrassed
  
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Re: English Premier League, 2007-2008
Reply #61 - 09/10/07 at 22:04:57
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 09/10/07 at 12:32:59:
At least Holland (as it's called in most English language presses) seemed to control the game.


Frankly when things are not going well I prefer boring but controlling and winning matches to pathetic tries to reach the impossible. A small country like The Netherlands only can produce brilliant football once in a while. I hope Van Basten continues the path of realism and will focus on the defensive problems in the near future. Suddenly, when nobody expects it anymore, the spark of inspiration might strike. For this to happen a solid fundament is mandatory and that is still lacking.
Calling Oranje or The Netherlands Holland is understandable but a bit similar to equalling England and The United Kingdom. This confusion of thought stems from the Dutch Golden Age, when the district Holland was a world power indeed. That age only lasted 25 years though (from 1648 to 1672).
  

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Reply #60 - 09/10/07 at 12:52:16
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 09/10/07 at 12:32:59:
I only got to see the highlights of the game.  The highligts included Seedorf, Ruud, and some other classic names making inroads against a Bulgarian side that seemed to be in a shell.  The game itself may have been boring, but at least Holland (as it's called in most English language presses) seemed to control the game.

They tried a little, but most "threats" were only after the 2-0 when Seedorf came on. The rest was all from outside the 16.
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By all accounts, the England-Israel game was also rather boring unless you were an England fan.  3-0 with no real pressure from the visitors sounds boring.  I'd like England to win a few more such boring games!

England was much helped by a weak Israeli side, but at least they really tried to attack and usually succeeded. Still I dont understand all the sudden optimism in the press. Owen needed a lot of chances, Heskey was decent but they played against a weak side. The real test will be against Russia and I suspect that on next thursday the press will babble a lot about Owen missing chances, Heskey being too old and the coach being an idiot...
  

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Reply #59 - 09/10/07 at 12:32:59
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I only got to see the highlights of the game.  The highligts included Seedorf, Ruud, and some other classic names making inroads against a Bulgarian side that seemed to be in a shell.  The game itself may have been boring, but at least Holland (as it's called in most English language presses) seemed to control the game.

By all accounts, the England-Israel game was also rather boring unless you were an England fan.  3-0 with no real pressure from the visitors sounds boring.  I'd like England to win a few more such boring games!
  
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Re: English Premier League, 2007-2008
Reply #58 - 09/10/07 at 12:23:53
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 09/09/07 at 04:54:18:
MNb, 

Your questions seems to have been answered with a definitive "JA!"


2-0 against Bulgaria.

What we call scoreboardjournalism Wink

They had 3 chances and scored 2. Play was better than it was before, but no reason to party. We will again reach the end round due to Van der Sar and 1 or 2 others. Last time it was Van Nistelrooij and Van der Sar, now it is Sneyder (best player on the pitch) as well. The defense really needs some courses in basic defense in the box (how you can give Berbatov a completely free header is beyond me). Midfield was sorta ok as was the forwards. Still no real threats, no real passion and a very boring match.
  

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Reply #57 - 09/09/07 at 04:54:18
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MNb, 

Your questions seems to have been answered with a definitive "JA!"


2-0 against Bulgaria.

Here in the US, England and the Italy-France game were on pay-per-view so I didn't get to see them.  Instead I was treated to the Iceland-Spain game.  That was almost the most newsworthy result of the week, but Iceland played the second half a man up as if they were two men down and the 1-1 result was justified.
  
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Re: English Premier League, 2007-2008
Reply #56 - 09/08/07 at 21:04:44
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To me the more important question is: Will Oranje finally begin playing football against Bulgaria?
  

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Re: English Premier League, 2007-2008
Reply #55 - 09/08/07 at 19:37:47
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England wins 3-0 vs Israel.  Shaun Wright-Phillips seems to be an excellent replacement for Beckham as long as we also have Gerrard. Cole (whom I really don't like) and Owen on the field.

Of course, the big game of the Euro group play today is Italy-France.  Wow. Cool
  
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Reply #54 - 09/04/07 at 07:50:34
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 09/03/07 at 14:33:58:
I will not be the first to admit (Willempie and MNb will be me to the punch every time) that I don't follow Dutch soccer very closely. But....

Didn't Ajax only draw 2-2 at home this weekend?

Yep very bad. Trainer and board is "under pressure" to use one of my favourite Queen songs.
Personally I dont think the trainer should go. The seasons before him were worse and if coaches like Adriaanse and Koeman didnt do better I dont think there is an alternative. Then again they really need a "leader in the field" in the style of say Rijkaard or Wouters, certainly with Sneyder gone. Davids is not that type, while Maduro is, but he has played rather badly for over a year (whence the defensive mess).
  

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