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Poll closed Question: Who will be the next world champion?
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Kramnik    
  21 (38.2%)
Anand    
  16 (29.1%)
Leko    
  0 (0.0%)
Aronian    
  9 (16.4%)
Morozevich    
  1 (1.8%)
Grischuk    
  0 (0.0%)
Svidler    
  1 (1.8%)
Gelfand    
  0 (0.0%)
Topalov should have been invited    
  7 (12.7%)




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Re: WCC Mexico City 2007
Reply #102 - 09/23/07 at 17:28:21
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I agree that Speelman is probably the best live commentator on the WC.   

I may have been harsh on Svidler, but he just doesn't seem to be taking any risks at all as White.  I hope he starts scoring some nice wins, but I don't see it happening this tournament.
  
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Re: WCC Mexico City 2007
Reply #101 - 09/21/07 at 15:37:24
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 09/21/07 at 05:56:30:
I still want to see the winner of the world title have to defeat Kramnik in a match, but I dream old dreams.


Isn't it the plan for the winner here to play Kramnik in a match?   And if Kramnik wins here, he plays Topalov in a match.   So I don't think your dreams are that old yet.  Wink
  

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Re: WCC Mexico City 2007
Reply #100 - 09/21/07 at 15:28:55
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Alias wrote on 09/21/07 at 08:13:26:
Smyslov_Fan wrote on 09/21/07 at 05:56:30:
Svidler and Aronian showed no ambition at all, this time in an Exchange Ruy Lopez and drew very quickly.  Svidler shouldn't complain too loudly about the Petroff if he's playing for draws as White anyway.


Of course Svidler wasn't playing for a draw. RLE is a drawish opening but white can often get a great ending. I thought white wasn't that far off yesterday.



In that vein, watch the Svidler-Aronian press conference video at the ChessVibes site.  Svidler seemed relatively pleased with his opening choice and his position until he played 17. Kf2.  He called that move "disgusting" and felt it threw away whatever pull he had.
  

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Re: WCC Mexico City 2007
Reply #99 - 09/21/07 at 08:13:26
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 09/21/07 at 05:56:30:
Svidler and Aronian showed no ambition at all, this time in an Exchange Ruy Lopez and drew very quickly.  Svidler shouldn't complain too loudly about the Petroff if he's playing for draws as White anyway.


Of course Svidler wasn't playing for a draw. RLE is a drawish opening but white can often get a great ending. I thought white wasn't that far off yesterday. Don't listen so much to Fedorowicz's comments. He's by far the laziest expert on ICC live shows. Best is Larry Christiansen and Jon Speelman.
  

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Re: WCC Mexico City 2007
Reply #98 - 09/21/07 at 07:52:43
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Havent really followed it so far, but very good to see the old geezers in the lead. I still have Gelfand as the favourite as he has had black against Anand and Kramnik (and Leko) already, but an Anand win wouldnt be bad either. Kramnik imo really has to show something to win here...
  

If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through.
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Re: WCC Mexico City 2007
Reply #97 - 09/21/07 at 06:11:56
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I misstated the actual scores.  I don't think I misstated how the tournament feels though.  For the record, Anand has 5, Gelfand 4.5, Kramnik 4, Grischuk 3.5, Leko and Aronian 3, and Svidler and Morozevich 2.5.

Aronian has a good excuse for not playing up to expectations.  ChessBase is reporting that he is taking antibiotics for a severe infection.  The fact that he has 3 points while being on antibiotics makes those three points special.  Perhaps I was a bit hard on his taking an easy draw as Black against Svidler.  (Unfortunately, that doesn't excuse Svidler.)
  
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Re: WCC Mexico City 2007
Reply #96 - 09/21/07 at 05:57:05
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I dont think Kramnik can be blamed for playing too many draws at all.
The game against Grischuk should have been a win as well and with a bit of luck he could have had another win as well.

Kramnik has been playing positive chess I think.
  
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Re: WCC Mexico City 2007
Reply #95 - 09/21/07 at 05:56:30
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Today's round saw some excellent chess!

Kramnik played extremely deep, dangerous chess but was only rewarded with half a point again.  Kramnik has certainly been more impressive than Gelfand in getting to the same scoreline halfway through the tournament.

That scoreline is now one full point behind Vishy Anand who won another brilliancy, this time against Grischuk.  Anand is really staking a claim to Kramnik's title.  I still want to see the winner of the world title have to defeat Kramnik in a match, but I dream old dreams.

Svidler and Aronian showed no ambition at all, this time in an Exchange Ruy Lopez and drew very quickly.  Svidler shouldn't complain too loudly about the Petroff if he's playing for draws as White anyway.  

The last game to finish was too complicated for me to understand most of the way.  Moro gave Leko a small advantage in a Moro-type of position.  The game transformed into a Q+B+N vs Q+2N endgame/middlegame in which Leko seemed to have all the chances.  Leko sacked a pawn in return for an attack that ended in a draw.  

Leko gets blamed for all the draws he makes, but so many of them are really beautiful games.  The joke about a Leko book called My Sixty Memorable Draws is only possible because he has played so many important draws.  

At the halfway mark, we've seen that Anand is the class of the group with Kramnik and Gelfand vying working hard to keep pace.  Grischuk has played some interesting chess and Leko may finally be warming up to the Mexico City level of competition.

Aronian has been a major disappointment to his fans, and this latest draw against the expected cellar dwelling Svidler has shown that he isn't ready yet to compete for the title.  Morozevich is the other major disappointment.  I thought he might have matured enough to compete but instead has been bleeding points against the top players.

The tournament is only half over, but we can see what it will take to win.  +5 will almost certainly be enough to win the tournament and Anand is on pace for +6.  The points are coming from three players in particular, Aronian, Svidler and Morozevich.  If any of the top three players beat each other, it could swing the entire event in that person's favor.  The obvious game to watch will be Kramnik-Anand.  If Anand simply avoids losing to Kramnik and Gelfand, I predict he'll become the champion.  If he slips even once, the other two will be on him like dogs on a fox.

It will still be a lot of fun to watch!

  
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Re: WCC Mexico City 2007
Reply #94 - 09/21/07 at 05:43:40
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I am still favouring Kramnik to bring home the bacon.


Kramnik has now +1 and Anand +3, Gelfand +2 ... So Kramnik has play more for the full points in the 2nd half. I hope you cannot become World Champion with so many draws.
  
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Re: WCC Mexico City 2007
Reply #93 - 09/20/07 at 22:13:30
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Yep... five moves later we see Gelfand has nothing. White's king is perfectly safe and Kramnik has the better game.
  

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Re: WCC Mexico City 2007
Reply #92 - 09/20/07 at 21:53:25
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Antillian wrote on 09/20/07 at 21:30:19:
These are early days yet. I am still favouring Kramnik to bring home the bacon. I think he has been playing quite well and is the only player who has not not once looked shaky.

I wouldnt be in Kramnik's shoes today...
(19..c5)


Well IMHPO, I think Black is playing with fire. I am not convinced White's king is in more danger than Black's. Buy hey what do i know?
  

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Reply #91 - 09/20/07 at 21:37:12
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Antillian wrote on 09/20/07 at 21:30:19:
These are early days yet. I am still favouring Kramnik to bring home the bacon. I think he has been playing quite well and is the only player who has not not once looked shaky.

I wouldnt be in Kramnik's shoes today...
(19..c5)
  
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Re: WCC Mexico City 2007
Reply #90 - 09/20/07 at 21:31:44
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HgMan wrote on 09/20/07 at 21:26:11:
We could see some more Sicilians in the second cycle, when some players might decide that they need to go for a win with Black.  Nice to see a number of Ruy Lopez efforts.  Maybe Black thinks he's solid enough and has better winning chances than with the Petroff.

Do you suppose Morozevich (playing the Scotch today) just wakes up and randomly picks an opening the morning of his game, or do you think his decision to play the Scotch against Leko was based on more strategic principles?


Perhaps it is called Morozevich-Random Chess  Grin
  

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Reply #89 - 09/20/07 at 21:30:19
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These are early days yet. I am still favouring Kramnik to bring home the bacon. I think he has been playing quite well and is the only player who has not not once looked shaky.
  

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Reply #88 - 09/20/07 at 21:30:11
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Well he did play the scotch game in round three as well - so I guess he is not that unpredictable
  
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