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Reply #5 - 08/27/07 at 10:02:32
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Unfortunately, comfortable positions are simply a part of life in the Colle-Zukertort.  If you are dissatisfied with this, you should probably play something more ambitious.  I had a similar problem myself a few years ago.  I came to the conclusion that it is unreasonable to expect an advantage against a strong player in this opening.  If you press too hard in some of these equal positions, you can easily end up worse!

On the flip side, this structure is probably not a bad way to play for a win as Black against weaker opposition in the Classical Queen's Indian Defense.  It's not a bad opening, but don't worry about seeking an advantage.


guess I was hoping too much for a quick win - thanks for your wise words
  
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Reply #4 - 08/27/07 at 09:55:37
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But I doubt very much if the CZ is the ideal blitz/rapid weapon. It seemsq moer apt for 'slow' play to me.
  
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Reply #3 - 08/27/07 at 09:43:48
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alumbrado wrote on 08/26/07 at 21:42:28:
The fact that you're starting with 1.Nf3 suggests an idea to me: have you considered meeting 1.Nf3 d5 with 2.b3!? and aiming for a CZ that way?  I haven't thought through all the ramifications but it might be one way to go?


thanks for an interesting idea; there is a club blitz coming up so I'll gve it a try there
  
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The fact that you're starting with 1.Nf3 suggests an idea to me: have you considered meeting 1.Nf3 d5 with 2.b3!? and aiming for a CZ that way?  I haven't thought through all the ramifications but it might be one way to go?
  
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Re: colle zukertort
Reply #1 - 08/26/07 at 20:04:05
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Unfortunately, comfortable positions are simply a part of life in the Colle-Zukertort.  If you are dissatisfied with this, you should probably play something more ambitious.  I had a similar problem myself a few years ago.  I came to the conclusion that it is unreasonable to expect an advantage against a strong player in this opening.  If you press too hard in some of these equal positions, you can easily end up worse!

On the flip side, this structure is probably not a bad way to play for a win as Black against weaker opposition in the Classical Queen's Indian Defense.  It's not a bad opening, but don't worry about seeking an advantage.
  
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08/26/07 at 12:25:38
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I was keen to try the CZ for the first time but, in a recent rapidplay tournment, after 1.Nf3 d5 2.d4 Nf6 3.e3 c5 4.b3 cxd4 black already had a comfortable position. 

After the game my opponent suggested 4.dxc5 with a kind of reversed QGA.  Are there any games with this continuation as I have not been able to find any?  is there a more Colle style continuation as 4.c3 seems a bit passive?

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