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Re: Anyone writing Play the Slav?
Reply #60 - 03/01/08 at 12:20:43
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The link to buy the ebook isn't working, so I don't think it actually is available to buy yet in either format. Still, very much looking forward to it.  I just bought Vigorito and the coverage of 4...Bf5 against 4.e3 looks impressive, so I second the other poster who suggested it as an alternative means of getting coverage of that line over the line James Vigus will recommend.  It's good that there are choices, we certainly shouldn't bemoan them.  Vigorito himself says that 4...Bg4 is probably better than its reputation. 

On that basis I imagine some people would have issues with 7...Nb6 against 6.Ne5, if they feel that authors should only present the most popular move.  I disagree with this and not only because I personally am really looking forward to the book and in particular this 7...Nb6 coverage. 

I'm also grateful for any input the authors of these books give in the forum and agree that we should respect (and inspect) their choices rather than criticise them preemptively, the latter being all too easy to do in comparison to producing the work in the first place.  Unless a line is known to be obviously flawed and unsuitable for inclusion in a book I respect the author's decision to recommend it - variety is the spice of life, whilst the guys who write these books are stronger players than me (most of us here?) by any number of magnitudes....
  
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Re: Anyone writing Play the Slav?
Reply #59 - 03/01/08 at 11:18:01
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Well it looks indeed like the e-book will be available before the paper edition. I think that is pretty good news since I prefer the e books. Maybe Everyman has been reading my rantings on this forum about the late and random release of their e books.  Grin
  

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Re: Anyone writing Play the Slav?
Reply #58 - 03/01/08 at 10:39:38
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winawer77 wrote on 03/01/08 at 10:06:14:
I'mglad that 4...Bf5 isn't covered! 

It will be nice to see coverage on 4...Bg4, I've always preferred this move in any case.

I see on the Everyman website that this book has been put back a month until April!  Undecided


True, the book has been put back a month, but on the plus side, the e-book is available for purchasing on the Everyman website at the moment. 

In any case, I look forward to seeing what Vigus recommends against my weapon against the Slav...
  

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Re: Anyone writing Play the Slav?
Reply #57 - 03/01/08 at 10:06:14
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I'mglad that 4...Bf5 isn't covered! 

It will be nice to see coverage on 4...Bg4, I've always preferred this move in any case.

I see on the Everyman website that this book has been put back a month until April!  Undecided
  
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Reply #56 - 03/01/08 at 06:49:57
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Much better. well done.
'Manners maketh man'.
Why not write polite requests/queries in the first place? Clearly you are capable and it is not a case of L2 (2nd language) pragmatic failure.
People here try to help. Rudeness riles. 

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Reply #55 - 03/01/08 at 06:41:51
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I am very upset with Bibs! He always has something mean to say about my posts! I was just shocked that Vigus isn't covering 4...Bf5 because it is a lot more popular than 4...Bg4 and if you were only going to cover one of these moves, I would have thought that 4...Bf5 would be the one. So I am just wondering why 4...Bf5 isn't covered.
  
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Reply #54 - 03/01/08 at 05:18:17
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Best ignore 'Anonymous' who appears simply to be a rude ba****d. James replied specifically to your query. Now learn some manners and belt up.

Wait for the book then judge ...Bg4. In the interim, yes, do your own research. 

Start with the young Italian Caruana's victory on the black side of Bg4, which, btw, is an inverted Torre.
  
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Re: Anyone writing Play the Slav?
Reply #53 - 03/01/08 at 01:45:01
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How do you not cover 4...Bf5 after 1 d4 d5 2 c4 c6 3 Nf3 Nf6 4 e3? 4...Bf5 is a lot more popular than 4...Bg4?


If it helps any, Fluffy covers 4..Bf5 is his "Play the Semi-Slav" book against the ever so fearsome supercritical Slow Slav.

But really now, I find it silly that persons demand explanations because their preferred choice is not covered by an author in a repertoire book.    You can't expect  100%  of the choices in a repertoire book to please 100%  of the people. If you don't like a particular choice, do your own research.
  

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Re: Anyone writing Play the Slav?
Reply #52 - 02/29/08 at 23:25:44
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It is a repertoire book for black so my guess is he does not cover Bf5 BECAUSE it is more popular.
  
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Reply #51 - 02/29/08 at 23:20:48
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Mr. Vigus

How do you not cover 4...Bf5 after 1 d4 d5 2 c4 c6 3 Nf3 Nf6 4 e3? 4...Bf5 is a lot more popular than 4...Bg4?
  
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Re: Anyone writing Play the Slav?
Reply #50 - 02/29/08 at 21:58:45
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Kylemeister - yes, maybe 1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 c6 3 Bf4 d6 4 Nf3 Nbd7 5 Nc3 Qa5!? is more active, and if 6 e3 e5 7 Bg3 Ne4. But I guess this is wandering from the Slav!

Anonymous - I only give 4...Bg4 in the line you mention. Where possible I give alternative options within each main system, e.g. a bit further along the main continuation after 4 e3 Bg4, I give an option based on ...Bb4 and one based on ...Bd6, which have somewhat different characteristics. But I didn't want to spread the coverage too thinly, so basically I offer just one system against each "main" White choice. Hope that makes sense.
  
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Re: Anyone writing Play the Slav?
Reply #49 - 02/29/08 at 16:43:47
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Mr. Vigus, 

Does your book look at more than one option for black? For example after 1 d4 d5 2 c4 c5 3 Nf3 Nf6 4 e3, do you cover both 4...Bf5 and 4...Bg4 or just one of these moves?
  
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Re: Anyone writing Play the Slav?
Reply #48 - 02/27/08 at 17:46:34
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James Vigus wrote on 02/27/08 at 17:38:20:


1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 c6 3 Bf4 d6!? 4 Nf3 Nbd7, intending ...Qc7 and ...e5, perhaps? Has anyone tried this? But I don't know of any advantages of the 1...Nf6 move-order for Black, unless you're hoping for a Tromp...



I would have thought that something like 5. Nc3 Qc7 6. h3 e5 7. Bh2 is suspicious for Black.
  
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Re: Anyone writing Play the Slav?
Reply #47 - 02/27/08 at 17:38:20
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I do indeed have a few new ideas in the 1 d4 d5 2 c4 c6 3 Nc3 dxc4 line, but I didn't feel that I needed to repair major theoretical problems for Black here - rather that the rise of the ...a6 Slav and the Semi-Slav has caused 3...dxc4 to fade somewhat into the background. All the better, from my point of view!
 
I agree that the Schlechter Slav with ...g6 is still completely playable for Black, and a preferable back-up option to 3 Nc3 Nf6 4 e3 Bg4 (with which Kamsky had a nasty accident recently). But 3 Nc3 dxc4 is a critical choice which may actually make White think twice about his third move.

My book begins from 1 d4 d5 2 c4 c6 - i.e. to keep the length within reasonable bounds, I don't cover 1 c4 c6 or the Reti. I have experimented with 1 c4 c6 2 e4 e5 3 Nf3 f5!?, which I think is better than a normal Latvian, and has the virtue of shocking opponents who associate the Slav with turgid solidity. 3...Qa5 is recommended by l'Ami in Secrets of Opening Surprises vol 6, but there is no doubt that 2...d5 is correct after all...Jovanka Houska's Caro Kann is good on this, and there are some interesting ideas for Black in Dreev's recent best games book.

I pretty much agree with Tracke's repertoire against the Reti, and think Black can often grab the c4-pawn and follow with ...Qd5!?.

1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 c6 3 Bf4 d6!? 4 Nf3 Nbd7, intending ...Qc7 and ...e5, perhaps? Has anyone tried this? But I don't know of any advantages of the 1...Nf6 move-order for Black, unless you're hoping for a Tromp...
  
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Re: Anyone writing Play the Slav?
Reply #46 - 02/27/08 at 17:09:12
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ErictheRed wrote on 02/27/08 at 16:46:42:


Against 1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 c6, 3.e4 is the only move to make ...d5 difficult.  Of course, Black can now play 3...e5 with an English opening.  I doubt most English players would play 3.e4, though.  Also, you can't force a Slav in every game, so learning this one line of the English is not so bad!



I would think most English players would play 3. e4 there, especially since it's considered good for him (+=); e.g. 3...e5 4. Nf3 would tend to become an Old Indian.  
  
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