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Re: Dangerous Weapons: The Queens Gambit - ?
Reply #25 - 01/25/08 at 19:07:08
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Frankly, I'm a little disappointed.   Undecided

I would have thought that there would have been ample opportunity to write a whole Dangerous Weapons volume on the Slav and Semi-Slav, and was rather hoping this one would concentrate on other lines without 2...c6.  You would think that between the Tarrasch, Tartakower, Lasker, Ragozin, Vienna (which gets a chapter, I suppose), Chigorin, etc., there would be plenty of opportunity to find some dangerous lines for both Black and White.  And outside of the two Exchange chapters, it doesn't seem as though there's much for Black in the QGD.   

It's a good thing that Ruslan's e-books are so good on this site; looks like I'll be sticking with them...
  

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Reply #24 - 01/25/08 at 18:17:58
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Wow, thanks for that. It does look interesting, chapters 3, 6, 9 and 10 are of particular interest. In fact, it all looks good!
  
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Reply #23 - 01/25/08 at 17:03:10
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Dangerous Weapons:  The Queen´s Gambit

005  Preface

006  Series Introduction

009  1  Playing ...b5 with confidence  (1d4 d5 2c4 dxc4 3e4 b5)

031  2  Having fun against the ...a6 slav  (1d4 d5 2c4 c6 3Nf3 Nf6 4Nc3 a6 5c5 Nbd7 6Bf4 Nh5 7Bg5)

045  3  Exciting byways in the main line slav I (1d4 d5 2c4 c6 3Nf3 Nf6 4Nc3 dxc4 5a4 Bf5 6Ne5 e6 7f3)

060  4  Exciting byways in the main line slav II (1d4 d5 2c4 c6 3Nf3 Nf6 4Nc3 dxc4 5a4 Bf5 6Ne5 Nbd7 7Nxc4)

078  5  The a-pawn cramp  (1d4 d5 2c4 c6 3Nf3 Nf6 4Nc3 dxc4 5a4 Bf5 6e3 e6 7a5

095  6  The Hodgson-Smallbone variation  (1d4 d5 2c4 c6 3Nf3 Nf6 4Nc3 dxc4 5a4 Bg4 6Ne5 Nbd7)

115  7  The a-pawn abstention  (1d4 d5 2c4 c6 3Nf3 Nf6 4Nc3 e6 5Bg5 dxc4 6e4 b5 7e5 h6 8Bh4 g5 9exf6 gxh4 10Ne5 Qxf6 11g3)

135  8  Going long in the Moscow  (1d4 d5 2c4 c6 3Nf3 Nf6 4Nc3 e6 5Bg5 h6 6Bxf6 Qxf6 7Qb3 dxc4 8Qxc4 Nd7 90-0-0)

152  9  Livening up the exchange I  (1d4 d5 2c4 e6 3Nc3 Nf6 4cxd5 exd5 5Bg5 Be7 6e3 c6 7Bd3 Bg4)

164  10  Livening up the exchange II  (1d4 d5 2c4 e6 3Nc3 Nf6 4cxd5 exd5 5Bg5 Bb4)

175  11  Shocking the QGD  (1d4 d5 2c4 e6 3Nc3 Nf6 4Nf3 Be7 5g4)

186  12  The Anti-Vienna Gambit  (1d4 d5 2c4 e6 3Nc3 Nf6 4Nf3 dxc4 5e4 Bb4 6Bxc4)

207  13  Tricking the Tarrasch  (1d4 d5 2c4 e6 3Nc3 c5 4cxd5 exd5 4Nf3 Nc6 5Bf4)

225  14  Taking the fun out of the Albin and Chigorin  (1d4 d5 2c4 e5 3dxe5 d4 4a3 Nc6 5e3)

(-239)

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I don´t have the book yet, information according to german distributor Niggemann. - Looks Interesting!

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Re: Dangerous Weapons: The Queens Gambit - ?
Reply #22 - 01/23/08 at 11:13:58
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According to the Everyman site, this book is now on sale. Does anyone have a copy? Any chance of an overview of the contents?

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Reply #21 - 01/16/08 at 20:19:35
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That would be Dash then : whiter than white (now even more white).
  
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Reply #20 - 01/16/08 at 19:27:45
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MNb wrote on 01/15/08 at 21:41:19:
So 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nc3 dxc4 and 3.Nf3 dxc4 do not make much difference? This is important to me as I would like to keep the option 3.Nc3 e6 4.e4 open.


No, I think 3.Nf3 dxc4 is worse for Black than 3.Nc3 dxc4.  White is merely White in the second case, I opine; he is a little whiter than White in the first.
  

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Re: Dangerous Weapons: The Queens Gambit - ?
Reply #19 - 01/16/08 at 09:13:54
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Hello,

Probably 3.Nf3 pxp is worse for black than normal lines, or at least
the lines 4.e3 b5 or 4... Be6 (which most of the higher rated players seem to play) are more experimental. White can play something more useful than nc3, i.e early a4.

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Re: Dangerous Weapons: The Queens Gambit - ?
Reply #18 - 01/15/08 at 21:41:19
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So 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nc3 dxc4 and 3.Nf3 dxc4 do not make much difference? This is important to me as I would like to keep the option 3.Nc3 e6 4.e4 open.
  

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Reply #17 - 01/14/08 at 16:28:56
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Scarblac wrote on 01/14/08 at 15:05:45:
And what about 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.e3 g6?

I'm at work now, but I seem to recall that it's supposed to be ok for Black.


Indeed.  I had the impression that this, while certainly playable, is generally thought slightly better for White.  ECO and NCO seem to think it should lead to equality, though.  Hmm.    
  
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Re: Dangerous Weapons: The Queens Gambit - ?
Reply #16 - 01/14/08 at 15:05:45
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And what about 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.e3 g6?

I'm at work now, but I seem to recall that it's supposed to be ok for Black.
  
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Reply #15 - 01/14/08 at 13:52:07
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kylemeister wrote on 01/12/08 at 22:48:17:
Well, there is also e.g. 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e3 a6.  But I too wasn't under the impression that 3. Nc3 dc is considered better for White, like the Winawer is.  For one thing, books like ECO and NCO have long given it as leading to equality (or unclarity).


It remains a game after 3.Nc3 dxc4, but my understanding is that White is better than if Black plays 3...Nf6.  The current reputation of 3...e5 was even worse, so I thought, and that 4.dxe5 d4 5.Ne4 was considered very nice for White.
  

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Re: Dangerous Weapons: The Queens Gambit - ?
Reply #14 - 01/12/08 at 22:48:17
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Well, there is also e.g. 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e3 a6.  But I too wasn't under the impression that 3. Nc3 dc is considered better for White, like the Winawer is.  For one thing, books like ECO and NCO have long given it as leading to equality (or unclarity).
  
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Re: Dangerous Weapons: The Queens Gambit - ?
Reply #13 - 01/12/08 at 17:50:20
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drkodos wrote on 01/12/08 at 15:10:37:


Taking the c pawn after 3.Nc3. Black cannot equalize against proper play with this OR the Winawer Gambit lines.  White needs to be booked up, but these early diversions are inferior (for Black) to the Main Lines.


This is an interesting claim of which I am skeptical. I remember way back when i first learnt to play  1.d4, the move order 1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nc3 was frown upon. I am aware that  opinion on this has since changed and 3. Nc3 is no longer considered bad for White. 

But if 3... dc and 3... e5 were both bad for Black, then this would be  really significant for Black Slav players since it would mean that a  Black Slav player has to know the Meran as well. Am I missing something really obvious?
  

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Re: Dangerous Weapons: The Queens Gambit - ?
Reply #12 - 01/12/08 at 15:10:37
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Antillian wrote on 01/04/08 at 23:39:49:
drkodos wrote on 01/03/08 at 04:56:16:
ErictheRed wrote on 09/19/07 at 03:58:03:
I've personally always thought that the best reply to 3.Nc3 is 3...dxc4.  At least, I think it's a good way to play, and easier for Black than 3...e5.



Agreed, as from the White side I like to play 3. Nc3 and have found this line to be pesky, almost to the point of chasing me to Nf3.  But, and like JLo's its a big one, after finding the proper play (outlined above by Lee Roth) I think this move is inferior to other lines in the Slav complex.  



I don't quite follow you. What move is inferior? Are you refering to 1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nc3 dc or to 1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 dc ?


Taking the c pawn after 3.Nc3. Black cannot equalize against proper play with this OR the Winawer Gambit lines.  White needs to be booked up, but these early diversions are inferior (for Black) to the Main Lines.
  

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Re: Dangerous Weapons: The Queens Gambit - ?
Reply #11 - 01/06/08 at 18:44:34
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I'm not sure what he meant, but I was talking about 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nc3 dc, which I think is fine for Black (of course, White may have a normal edge).
  
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