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Reply #53 - 10/06/07 at 12:06:41
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I am seeing this book on Amazon.com. But it shows a different author: Christoph Scheerer 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1857445619/ref=wl_it_dp/105-6813421-2286036?ie=...
  
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Reply #52 - 10/06/07 at 04:55:57
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I know the King's Indian has been mentioned, but the special innovations of Geller and Bronstein (Bronstein-Zita, especially) really made the opening one of the hallmarks of the dynamic Soviet School of Chess.

The key behind the innovation was a willingness to sac the backwards d6 pawn for play on the wings.  This was a radical departure from the ideas of even the most forward thinking Hypermoderns!
  
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Reply #51 - 10/06/07 at 04:52:24
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Keano, 

I don't mean to denigrate the Evans, I just don't think it was such a great conceptual leap at the time.  It's still relatively playable, but it didn't change the way people thought about the opening in the way that 3...a6 in the Spanish did.  That's still my #1 innovation.  
  
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Reply #50 - 10/06/07 at 04:50:08
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Historically, 1.e4 Nf6 occurred before 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nf6.  The Nimzo-Sicilian was considered to be a more correct way to play this Hypermodern idea until Alekhin came along and won some impressive games as Black after 1...Nf6.  So yes, they both came first!  Cool
  
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Reply #49 - 10/05/07 at 20:57:04
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OstapBender wrote on 10/05/07 at 07:19:27:
Was Nimzowitsch's (1.e4 c5 2.Nf3) 2...Nf6 in the Sicilian a predecessor to Alekhine's Defense?  Whichever came first I'd rate as a revolutionary idea.  Alekhine's Defense, even if second, still ranks among greatest opening ideas, though.

Yes. See left if you want to know who was the victim (0-1, 46).
  
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Reply #48 - 10/05/07 at 10:50:02
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 10/04/07 at 23:11:00:
Keano, 

I thought about including the Evans Gambit, but it wasn't all that unusual to sac pawns for development during the Romantic Era of chess.  The Evans might have gotten my vote if it was still played regularly at the highest levels, but it just doesn't seem rich enough to be considered a major innovation at any point of its history.  

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Granted it was a romantic idea, but the depth behind it is truly astounding, as are the great games played by Morphy and Chigorin amongst others. What is truly remarkable though is that, after being written off by the classical thinking and books for almost a century it took a modern great Kasparov to reintroduce it, beating another modern great Anand. To this day the gambit is still very resistent to Fritz and Rybka attempts - the reason I think is that it is based not only on calculation but on a real depth and feel for the game.
  
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Reply #47 - 10/05/07 at 07:19:27
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Was Nimzowitsch's (1.e4 c5 2.Nf3) 2...Nf6 in the Sicilian a predecessor to Alekhine's Defense?  Whichever came first I'd rate as a revolutionary idea.  Alekhine's Defense, even if second, still ranks among greatest opening ideas, though.
  
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Reply #46 - 10/05/07 at 06:52:20
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Greatest opening idea was Seirawan v Austrian attack fe ng5 bxd4 !!

It was well a great idea to show that black's position is playable. The problem is that white can go for a forced draw.
  
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Reply #45 - 10/05/07 at 06:42:54
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Markovich and woofwoof

Thanks for clearing that up. Lasker...Pelikan...Sveshnikov, uggh
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Reply #44 - 10/05/07 at 06:16:42
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If your angle is rediscovery, the lines Euwe and Alekhine played in the Slav seem to be "hot" again the last couple of years. Iirc they even played stuff like the Chebanenko (I have no idea how to spell this name Grin)
  
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Reply #43 - 10/05/07 at 03:39:40
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I'm probably biased, but I think that the Benko was an amazing discovery.
  
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Reply #42 - 10/04/07 at 23:22:29
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If we could figure out which major opening was first created with the aid of computers, that opening would rank among the most important innovations of all time.  

I don't know which one that is, but I'm guessing that it may be the
Seville Variation of the Grunfeld
  
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Reply #41 - 10/04/07 at 23:14:04
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zoo, 

The Italians invented the acceleration of the game by allowing pawns to move two squares on their first moves.  The French complained about all the work they had spent getting their own pawns to their fifth rank only for the pawns to be passed.  That's why a) only pawns can take, and only on the first move after the pawn advance and b) it's called <<en passant>> ("In passing").  Pieces don't really get passed since they can move backwards.
  
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Reply #40 - 10/04/07 at 23:11:00
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Keano, 

I thought about including the Evans Gambit, but it wasn't all that unusual to sac pawns for development during the Romantic Era of chess.  The Evans might have gotten my vote if it was still played regularly at the highest levels, but it just doesn't seem rich enough to be considered a major innovation at any point of its history.   

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Reply #39 - 10/04/07 at 21:06:13
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Fischer got his idea from Dutch master Johan Barendregt.
The first one to play the Jugoslav Attack was the Frenchman Jean Taubenhaus, Frankfurt 1887. Rauser followed with 9.0-0-0 almost 50 years later.
  
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