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Reply #44 - 02/29/08 at 11:44:43
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005 Preface 

007 Series Introduction 

011 1 The Max Lange Gambit 

(1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bc4 Bc5 4 0-0 Nf6 5 d4) 

043 2 Reviving the Max Lange Attack 

(1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bc4 Bc5 4 0-0 Nf6 5 d4 exd4 6 e5 d5 7 exf6 dxc4 8 fxg7) 

063 3 Calming the Romantics 

(1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bc4 Bc5 4 c3 Nf6 5 d4 exd4 6 cxd4 Bb4+ 7 Bd2 Nxe4 and 4 b4 Bxb4 5 c3 Ba5) 

085 4 L'Oiseau 

(1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bb5 Nd4) 

103 5 Twenty Years of Obscurity 

(1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bb5 a6 4 Ba4 Nf6 5 0-0 Bc5) 

119 6 Facing up to the Exchange Variation 

(1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bb5 a6 4 Bxc6 dxc6 5 0-0 Be7) 


132 7 Denying Black his Fun 

(1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Nc3 Nf6 4 Bb5 Nd4 5 0-0) 


152 8 Livening up the Three Knights and Scotch 

(1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Nc3 g6 and 3 d4 cxd4 4 Nxd4 g6) 

169 9 Don't be Boring against the Göring! 

(1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 d4 exd4 4 c3 Nf6 5 e5 Ne4 and 3 c3 Nf6 4 d4 exd4 5 e5 Ne4) 

179 10 Fighting the Pseudo King's Gambiteers 

(1 e4 e5 2 Bc4 Nf6 3 d3 Bc5 4 Nc3 0-0) 

202 11 The Vienna Poisoned Pawn 

(1 e4 e5 2 Nc3 Nc6 3 Bc4 Bc5 4 Qg4 Nd4) 

216 12 Play like a Victorian: The King's Bishop's Gambit 

(1 e4 e5 2 f4 exf4 3 Bc4) 

234 13 The Centre Game Revealed: Part I 

(1 e4 e5 2 d4 exd4 3 Qxd4 Nc6 4 Qe3 Nf6 5 Nc3 Bb4 main line) 

275 14 The Centre Game Revealed: Part II 

(1 e4 e5 2 d4 exd4 3 Qxd4 Nc6 4 Qe3 Nf6 5 Nc3 others) 

304 15 The Centre Game Revealed: Part III 

(1 e4 e5 2 d4 exd4 3 Qxd4 Nc6 4 Qe3 others) 
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Reply #43 - 02/28/08 at 11:55:07
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@ Toppy: in the Deferred Steinitz with 5 0-0, what do you think is Leko's intention after (A) 5 ...Bd7 6 d4 Nf6, (B) 5 ...Nf6, and (C) 5 ...Ne7?
  
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Reply #42 - 02/28/08 at 09:49:04
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I think i have provided you with the "refutation" of the Rb8 Gajewski's line. As for the other look at Kotronias-Mastrovasilis Greek champ2008 to see the refutation there!

I like very much the Petrosian's Chigorin line that Marin analyses in his book and i have found many new ideas there! A good ground for creativity!
  
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Reply #41 - 02/28/08 at 03:11:58
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TopNotch wrote on 02/24/08 at 18:59:43:
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While on the subject of Secret Weapons, I was following one of Fluffy's  tournament games recently which will probably feature in twic update number 694 or 695, that went as follows:

 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Nf3 0-0 6.Be2 e5 7.0-0 Nc6 8.d5 Ne7 9.Kh1 Nd7 10.g4!!
 
I almost fell out of my chair when I saw this, the move never even crossed my mind in this exact position, but once it is played you realise it is quite logical and dangerous. Of course I immediately fired up Chessbase and lo and behold its nothing new, but was a favorite weapon of Miles and Larsen. And here it was I thought I was familiar with all lines of the KID, but somehow this idea escaped my attention. To Fluffy's credit he recovered nicely from what surely seemed to have been a unpleasant shock for him as well, and after an exciting struggle the game was eventually drawn. 
Back to the topic of this thread, I wonder what other malevolent lines and ideas await readers of the eagerly anticipated Dangerous Weapons 1.e4 e5.

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My humblest apologies to Fluffy.

In the game cited above he did indeed recover nicely, but the result was not a draw as previously stated, but rather he went on to win. Along the way Fluffy sacrificed his Queen and capped off a brilliant comeback by delivering a coup de grace in fitting Kings Indian style.

Here is the game in its entirety. Enjoy:

[Event "8th North American FIDE Invitational"]
[Site "Chicago"]
[Date "2008.02.19"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Kaufman, Raymond"]
[Black "Fluffy"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteTitle "FM"]
[BlackTitle "IM"]

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 4.Nc3 Bg7 5.e4 d6 6.Nf3 O-O 7.Be2 e5 8.O-O Nc6 9.d5 Ne7 10.Kh1 Nd7 11.g4 f5 12.gxf5 gxf5 13.exf5 Nf6 14.Rg1 Nxf5 15.Bd3 Kh8 16.Ng5 c6 17.Nce4 cxd5 18.Nxf6 Qxf6 19.cxd5 Bd7 20.Qh5 Qg6 21.Qh3 Rae8 22.Ne6 Rxe6 23.Rxg6 Rxg6 24.Qh5 Bh6 25.Bxh6 Rxh6 26.Qg5 Rg8 27.Qd2 Rhg6 28.Rc1 R6g7 29.Qc3 Nd4 30.f4 Bg4 31.Be4 Ne2 32.Qd2 Bf3 0-1

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Reply #40 - 02/28/08 at 02:17:12
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Michael Ayton wrote on 02/28/08 at 01:35:10:
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Steinitz Deferred. See some analysis of Davies here a few years back, Mamedyarov games, plus plenty of Keres games.


That's what I thought! But I recall Paddy (I think it was), two or three years back now, remarking that an English GM (interestingly, he didn't say who!) had told him there wouldn't be a market for a book on this 'cos White had at least one sure safe way to advantage and so the line wasn't considered interesting. Of course this was before the Mamedyarov games. Any further enlightenment on this, Paddy (or anyone)?


Regarding the deferred Steinitz, I really like Leko's treatment for White and have for some time. Its not a huge edge, but its nagging. The Archangels, Gabriel and otherwise require too much maintenance for my taste and are too topical. In any case, as Shirov revealed recently, The Archangel with an early Bb7 is well met by ommitting c3 altogether in favor of d3 intending Nc3 and a4, after which Black has an unpleasent uphill task, for that reason he always aims to place the Bishop on g4.

The Schliemann is out of the question for me, what the hell is Radjabov thinking. Ok he drew with Anand recently but that is about the only positive thing I can say about this line.

I am curious as to what Nigel Short will make of Flear's Evan's Gambit treatment. The upshot for me is if Flear's remedy is found wanting then we may well see more and more players seeking refuge in the Two Knight's defence. Incidentally, whether the Max Lange Attack is rehabilitated or not is of minor importance to OTB players who mostly prefer the Bullet Proof Anti-Max lange with 5...Nxe4 anyway.   

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[quote]Steinitz Deferred. See some analysis of Davies here a few years back, Mamedyarov games, plus plenty of Keres games. [/quote]

That's what I thought! But I recall Paddy (I think it was), two or three years back now, remarking that an English GM (interestingly, he didn't say who!) had told him there wouldn't be a market for a book on this 'cos White had at least one sure safe way to advantage and so the line wasn't considered interesting. Of course this was before the Mamedyarov games. Any further enlightenment on this, Paddy (or anyone)?
  
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Reply #38 - 02/28/08 at 01:04:15
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Gajewski Rb8 I believe so, d5 Chig/Marshall looking more tricky from what I have seen and half remember from looking through. Scarcely a detailed look though.

TN - have a bash with Archangelsk as per Shirov/Malaniuk/Tkachiev occasionally Adams.

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Steinitz Deferred. See some analysis of Davies here a few years back, Mamedyarov games, plus plenty of Keres games. 

Both require plenty of knowlege from white, both sound and played at highest levels so can reasonably be trusted.

My problem more an anti-Scotch - have to beat plenty of weaker (2100-2200) players so need something dynamic. Suggestions?

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Reply #37 - 02/27/08 at 23:53:33
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Ametanoitos wrote on 02/26/08 at 14:44:05:
The 8..d5! idea of micawber gave me a nice win today! Also 7.f3? d5! is strong. Can anyone suggest somrthing for  white here?


Ohh yes, that idea of micawber is quite nice, valuable and more importantly sound, but how do you get to employ these ideas so quickly. I doubt I will get to spring this gem anytime soon. Of course, if the book sells well, and I'm boldly predicting Best Seller, I may get the chance sooner than expected.  Wink

I have an academic interest in the Evans Gambit, but as a Two Knights Defence player myself it is unlikely that my analysis will serve any practical use.

Lately I have become so enamoured with 1...e5 that I'm contemplating giving my Dragon a much needed rest for the next 8 to 10 months. Still the omni present Ruy Lopez always looms large and as I have little interest in pursuing draws with either the Petroff or the Marshall, means that there is still much to think about.

By the way does anyone know if either or both of those Gajewski variations against the Ruy are still viable?

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Reply #36 - 02/26/08 at 22:07:42
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I might also add that, being reliably informed, Glenn Flear is "calming the romantics", i.e. striking heavy blows upon the Giuoco Piano and Evans Gambit
  

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The 8..d5! idea of micawber gave me a nice win today! Also 7.f3? d5! is strong. Can anyone suggest somrthing for  white here?
  
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Reply #34 - 02/26/08 at 12:16:50
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ehkopean wrote on 02/25/08 at 05:00:45:
IM Andrew Greet wrote on 02/03/08 at 22:12:13:
I haven't seen a final list of contents, but can report that my own contribution was a white repertoire on the Centre Game which spans three chapters.
I was able to put some of my research into practice in one recent game which can be found here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml;jsessionid=XUSRTJFLN4V5LQFIQMGSFF4AVC...


Hopefully you had a look at Tim Harding's two articles at ChessCafe - 
http://www.chesscafe.com/text/kibitz103.pdf
and http://www.chesscafe.com/text/kibitz104.pdf

My game (where I played the natural, but apparently poor 9.Bd3) is  at the end of the 104 article.


Thanks for the link. Actually I was unaware of these articles, although fortunately there is nothing there which would cause me to re-evaluate any of my analysis. They made for interesting reading though. That final game looked rather brutal, although I wouldn't necessarily ditch the whole opening based on one bad experience. 9.a3! is a much more promising move than 9.Bd3?!.
  
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Reply #33 - 02/25/08 at 20:42:11
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is this book comming out in march 08 now look at everyman site i think its march 08. i am going to get this book when it comes out..
  
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IM Andrew Greet wrote on 02/03/08 at 22:12:13:
I haven't seen a final list of contents, but can report that my own contribution was a white repertoire on the Centre Game which spans three chapters.
I was able to put some of my research into practice in one recent game which can be found here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml;jsessionid=XUSRTJFLN4V5LQFIQMGSFF4AVC...


Hopefully you had a look at Tim Harding's two articles at ChessCafe - 
http://www.chesscafe.com/text/kibitz103.pdf
and http://www.chesscafe.com/text/kibitz104.pdf

My game (where I played the natural, but apparently poor 9.Bd3) is  at the end of the 104 article.
  
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is this book out yet in the usa can i order it at amazon.ocm on everyman it said febuary 08.so when  does it come out?
  
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Reply #30 - 02/24/08 at 23:01:04
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micawber wrote on 02/24/08 at 21:53:59:
@ IM Andrew Greet,
Thx, for your detailed reply.
I will not ask you to reveal any secret weapons after 
6.Bc4,0-0 7.Bd2,Ng4 8.Qe2,Nd4  Wink

I was aware of the game Varavin-Tjurin 2001 you mentioned,
but I consider that black went a bit wrong as early as move 11.
But I wonder if you have considered that black has another
method to equalize:
8.Qe2, d5!?TN an interesting pawn sac
9.Nxd5        
    
(9.cxd5, Nd4 10.Qd3?!, Bc5! -+; 9.Bxd5, Bc5! 10.Bxc6,Bxf2+ -+)
9........, Bc5!
10.Be3,

(10.Nh3,Nd4 -+)
10......., Nxe3
11.Nxe3

(10.fxe3, Qh4+ =+)
11......., Qd4 =    (black picks up the e-pawn)
                 


Very interesting! Yes, that certainly looks viable for Black. At the same time I don't think it would put me off playing the CG as a surprise weapon. I can't imagine many unsuspecting opponents finding moves like 7...Ng4!? and 8...d5!?. Nice idea though!  Smiley
  
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