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Re: Stonewall attack
Reply #11 - 11/26/07 at 23:40:35
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We editors get this all the time. "He literally buried himself in his garden" is my favourite.

But I've been enjoying the thread! Last night, knackered and browned-off with overwork, I opened up Nagaskaki 4.00 for a blitz game and quickly got a winning White Stonewall -- the program didn't have a clue! (I then blundered horribly, but still grovelled a draw!)

Stonewall OK as long as, as the man on the site says, you keep flexi?
  
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Re: Stonewall attack
Reply #10 - 11/26/07 at 18:39:34
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It's odd how the word "literally" is sometimes not used literally ...

I would have thought that a good line/setup against the Stonewall would be one of the first things every player learns as (s)he starts to advance through the ranks.  Though I suppose a possible explanation is that the 2100 hadn't faced a Stonewall in so long that he forgot all about it.
  
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Re: Stonewall attack
Reply #9 - 11/26/07 at 18:24:04
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Two weeks ago we had an example of the Stonewall attack in our club championship. White (rated 2200) literally massacred black (2100). White was ready after 19 moves and having used 3 or 4 minutes of his (mostly noting the moves) while black used about 90 minutes. The main problem is that black played an early e6 and developed his dark square bishop to d6. 
The Stonewall attack is really efficient against non prepared players!!
  
Yusupov once said that “The problem with the Dutch Defence is that later in many positions the best move would be ...f5-f7” but he is surely wrong.
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Re: Stonewall attack
Reply #8 - 11/26/07 at 18:23:58
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Stonewall OK as an equalizing attempt for black in the dutch


That assessment is also valid for the Stonewall Attack. White has chances to equalise.
  
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Re: Stonewall attack
Reply #7 - 11/26/07 at 18:14:06
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I've faced it twice in seven games with Black so far this year.  Depends on your playing level I'm sure, but I'd say it's still pretty popular amongst sub- BCF 140 players ... for exactly the reasons given by the previous poster.
  
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Re: Stonewall attack
Reply #6 - 11/25/07 at 15:51:14
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Ah yes, the stonewall.  I have not so fond memories of being bashed repeatedly by a club mate in this almost two decades ago.  Sad   I was clueless back then, I just remember him sticking  knight into e5, marching forward those king side pawns sacking something and before  i knew it I was mated. Eventually I got better and worked out a way to combat his one dimensional play and he stopped playing it against me. I don't remember what that was though.   You know, i must say there is something to be said about getting beaten up and having to figure things out on your own than finding a ready answer to everything in a book.
  
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Re: Stonewall attack
Reply #5 - 11/25/07 at 13:56:56
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As with any 'unfashionable' system, it can prove dangerous to the unwary. Many are unwary in the less well-known systems, thus such an approach can be effective in practical play. I am no advocate, this is simply a useful general comment. Black should ideally have something in mind to play against such a set-up. 
Aim to equalise, dont over-reach. Certainly do not try to 'punish' what is a very sensible solid set-up.
Then play for advantage from an equal position.
  
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Re: Stonewall attack
Reply #4 - 11/25/07 at 11:48:19
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I thought the Stonewall was nothing for white. Stonewall OK as an equalizing attempt for black in the dutch, but a serious winning try for white against decent players?
  
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Re: Stonewall attack
Reply #3 - 11/25/07 at 11:35:04
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Stonewall can naturally come from d4 as much as f4 thibbd. Depends which is your stronger hand like in tennis.

Probably more from f4 cos most people play right-handed. 

Yeah the Danielson online stuff - eg polar bear - all good fun. Saw a polar bear yesterday in the zoo. Didnt seem a flanking sort though.
  
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Re: Stonewall attack
Reply #2 - 11/25/07 at 09:07:44
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I think this subject is more at his place under "flank openings" as the Stonewall attack is a variation of the Bird.
You could also find some interesting material at http://www.videochess.net
By the way, I play it quite often in blitz as white (never had the opportunity to test in a "serious" game) and I must say it is quite strong. You can develop a dangerous attack without taking too much risks. 
In the Bird move order, I would recommend it after an early e6 by black. Against g6, the stonewall attack is less impressive(efficient).
  
Yusupov once said that “The problem with the Dutch Defence is that later in many positions the best move would be ...f5-f7” but he is surely wrong.
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Re: Stonewall attack
Reply #1 - 11/24/07 at 16:43:44
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See here:  http://www.kenilworthchessclub.org/kenilworthian/2006/05/stonewall-attack.html
  
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11/24/07 at 15:55:31
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Anyone still play the Stonewall Attack? Roll Eyes
  
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