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Question: What is the 2nd best line against the KID (after Classical)

Samisch Variation (6.Be3)

13 (16.5%)

Samisch Variation (6.Bg5 or 6.Nge2)

5 (6.3%)

Fianchetto Variation

22 (27.8%)

Averbakh Variation (5.Be2 0-0 6.Bg5)

8 (10.1%)

Four Pawns Attack

4 (5.1%)

Makogonov System (with h3)

12 (15.2%)

Petrosian/Gligoric

6 (7.6%)

Smyslov Variation (4.Nf3 0-0 5.Bg5)

1 (1.3%)

5.Bd3 or 5.Nge2

2 (2.5%)

Other

6 (7.6%)

Total votes: 79

« Created by: ANONYMOUS3000 on: 08/28/08 at 08:49:05 »

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ANONYMOUS3000 Junior Member Offline Posts: 54 Joined: 08/16/08	Re: What is the 2nd best line against the KID? Reply #9 - 08/29/08 at 08:37:17	Post Tools	Print Post
	kylemeister wrote on 08/28/08 at 19:15:26: I'll take a wild guess that this thread stems from Larry Kaufman's idea that "second-best is often the way to go." Good guess, but no. I noticed that there hadn't been any action on the KID thread for over a week. Therefore, I thought that I would start a poll as to which is the best line against the KID. However, given that most people would say "The Classical Variation", I decided a poll regarding the best line after the Classical would be more interesting! I personally think that the Makogonov system is the second-best in practical terms, but that the 6.Nge2 Samisch and Fianchetto Variation are objectively both equally strong alternatives to the Classical and to each other. But that's just my opinion.


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Markovich God Member Offline Posts: 6099 Location: Columbus, Ohio Joined: 09/17/04	Re: What is the 2nd best line against the KID? Reply #8 - 08/29/08 at 03:40:04	Post Tools	Print Post
	MNb wrote on 08/28/08 at 19:54:24: My, according to your logic I should open 1.f3 and 2.g4 .... At your level, you would probably win many games that way. I could not resist that line which was, of course, in jest. Lev should try it on ICC. He could post his "courageous" wins here. I can see it now: WHAT DO YOU CALL THE DIRTY ROTTEN COWARDS WHO REFUSE TO EXPOSE THEMSELVES TO IMMEDIATE MATE?

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MNb God Member Offline Rudolf Spielmann forever Posts: 10780 Location: Moengo Joined: 01/05/04 Gender:	Re: What is the 2nd best line against the KID? Reply #7 - 08/28/08 at 19:54:24	Post Tools	Print Post
	My, according to your logic I should open 1.f3 and 2.g4 ....

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Markovich God Member Offline Posts: 6099 Location: Columbus, Ohio Joined: 09/17/04	Re: What is the 2nd best line against the KID? Reply #6 - 08/28/08 at 19:22:32	Post Tools	Print Post
	kylemeister wrote on 08/28/08 at 19:15:26: I'll take a wild guess that this thread stems from Larry Kaufman's idea that "second-best is often the way to go." The problem is that not everyone is a second-rate player. I, for example, am only a fifth-rate.

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kylemeister God Member Offline Posts: 4989 Location: USA Joined: 10/24/05	Re: What is the 2nd best line against the KID? Reply #5 - 08/28/08 at 19:15:26	Post Tools	Print Post
	I'll take a wild guess that this thread stems from Larry Kaufman's idea that "second-best is often the way to go."


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Markovich God Member Offline Posts: 6099 Location: Columbus, Ohio Joined: 09/17/04	Re: What is the 2nd best line against the KID? Reply #4 - 08/28/08 at 19:12:01	Post Tools	Print Post
	Michael Ayton wrote on 08/28/08 at 19:00:18: Nice one! Mediocre systems best suit us mediocre players, I always say.

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Michael Ayton God Member Offline ‘You’re never alone with a doppelgänger.’ Posts: 1977 Location: durham Joined: 04/19/03 Gender:	Re: What is the 2nd best line against the KID? Reply #3 - 08/28/08 at 19:00:18	Post Tools	Print Post
	Nice one!


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Markovich God Member Offline Posts: 6099 Location: Columbus, Ohio Joined: 09/17/04	Re: What is the 2nd best line against the KID? Reply #2 - 08/28/08 at 18:53:08	Post Tools	Print Post
	I don't care which is the second best; I'm trying to figure out which is the fifth best. I always play the fifth best. Anyone care to help me figure out what it is?

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thibdb13 God Member Offline Tal was the best Posts: 974 Location: Mechelen Joined: 01/25/07 Gender:	Re: What is the 2nd best line against the KID? Reply #1 - 08/28/08 at 15:00:14	Post Tools	Print Post
	As I play the Sämisch with Be3, I'd say the other Sämisch

	Yusupov once said that “The problem with the Dutch Defence is that later in many positions the best move would be ...f5-f7” but he is surely wrong.
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ANONYMOUS3000 Junior Member Offline Posts: 54 Joined: 08/16/08	What is the 2nd best line against the KID? 08/28/08 at 08:49:05	Post Tools	Print Post
	Hello KID players (as both White and Black): Which system do you believe is the second strongest against the King's Indian after the Classical variation?


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