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Question: Who will win the World Championship in 2008?


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Vishy Anand by at least 2 points 1 (1.3%) Vladimir Kramnik by at least 2 pts 2 (2.6%) Vishy, but it will be close 26 (34.2%) Kramnik, but it will be close 36 (47.4%) A tie and Anand wins 4 (5.3%) A tie and Kramnik wins 7 (9.2%) Total votes: 76 « Created by: Smyslov_Fan on: 10/13/08 at 04:26:14 »

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Anand-Kramnik 2008 World Championships! (Read 76855 times)

Willempie God Member Offline I love ChessPublishing .com! Posts: 4312 Location: Holland Joined: 01/07/05	Re: Anand-Kramnik 2008 World Championships! Reply #181 - 10/28/08 at 08:48:23	Post Tools	Print Post
	Seth_Xoma wrote on 10/28/08 at 01:29:31: MNb wrote on 10/28/08 at 00:04:06: Keano wrote on 10/27/08 at 17:19:52: Credit to Kramnik though, but it looks like its all a bit late... Does it make you long for the good old days of 24 games matches too? Twelve games is way too short to satisfy my lust for sensation. I echo your sentiments. I would prefer a best of 24, even though I am too young ever to have seen such a match live. 6 wins or maybe 4 would be better imo and no interference by Fide prezzes.

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Seth_Xoma God Member Offline FM with 2 IM Norms - (2381) Posts: 558 Location: Lansing Joined: 11/05/04 Gender:	Re: Anand-Kramnik 2008 World Championships! Reply #180 - 10/28/08 at 01:29:31	Post Tools	Print Post
	MNb wrote on 10/28/08 at 00:04:06: Keano wrote on 10/27/08 at 17:19:52: Credit to Kramnik though, but it looks like its all a bit late... Does it make you long for the good old days of 24 games matches too? Twelve games is way too short to satisfy my lust for sensation. I echo your sentiments. I would prefer a best of 24, even though I am too young ever to have seen such a match live.


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MNb God Member Offline Rudolf Spielmann forever Posts: 10777 Location: Moengo Joined: 01/05/04 Gender:	Re: Anand-Kramnik 2008 World Championships! Reply #179 - 10/28/08 at 00:04:06	Post Tools	Print Post
	Keano wrote on 10/27/08 at 17:19:52: Credit to Kramnik though, but it looks like its all a bit late... Does it make you long for the good old days of 24 games matches too? Twelve games is way too short to satisfy my lust for sensation.

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Seth_Xoma God Member Offline FM with 2 IM Norms - (2381) Posts: 558 Location: Lansing Joined: 11/05/04 Gender:	Re: Anand-Kramnik 2008 World Championships! Reply #178 - 10/27/08 at 22:38:28	Post Tools	Print Post
	If miraculously Kramnik makes it to the tiebreak games, then he'll be the huge favorite to win despite Anand's blitz prowess. Vlad would have a heck of alot of momentum going in.


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cyronix Ex Member	Re: Anand-Kramnik 2008 World Championships! Reply #177 - 10/27/08 at 20:03:28	Post Tools	Print Post
	In the next game Anand is white, he should draw effortlessly. He should just play 1. e4 ...


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CheckMate Full Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 168 Location: Uppsala Joined: 07/18/06 Gender:	Re: Anand-Kramnik 2008 World Championships! Reply #176 - 10/27/08 at 18:10:39	Post Tools	Print Post
	Congrats to Kramnik who won his first game! A miracle is now possible, if Kramnik wins the remaining two games of the match there will be a tiebreak! I predict these games will be exceptionally hard and close, so Anand has to watch out now!


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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: Anand-Kramnik 2008 World Championships! Reply #175 - 10/27/08 at 17:19:52	Post Tools	Print Post
	Well...ehem, whatever I was saying earlier about Anands resistance forget it - this was pretty awful. Reminds me of a comment Kasparov said about Anand, that occasionally he will play some awful stuff but then has the ability to dismiss it and continue playing as normal. Credit to Kramnik though, but it looks like its all a bit late...


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MUBAs Opponent Junior Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 70 Joined: 02/06/07	Re: Anand-Kramnik 2008 World Championships! Reply #174 - 10/27/08 at 17:03:27	Post Tools	Print Post
	Smyslov_Fan turned out to be correct! I thought Anand had a draw opportunity earlier with 22... Nc4 but I overlooked 24. Rxe2 (rather than Qxe2) in that line. So where was the decisive mistake?


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Antillian God Member Offline Brilliance without dazzle! Posts: 1757 Joined: 01/05/03 Gender:	Re: Anand-Kramnik 2008 World Championships! Reply #173 - 10/27/08 at 16:39:53	Post Tools	Print Post
	Kramnik seems to be doing very well on the clock today for once. And he has a very promising position. Anand is in trouble me thinks.

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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: Anand-Kramnik 2008 World Championships! Reply #172 - 10/27/08 at 11:07:49	Post Tools	Print Post
	Going for the endgame without queens seemed reasonable at the time, although in retrospect playing for attack with Queens seems the way to go. I think Anand is providing stronger defensive resistance than Kramnik did.


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MNb God Member Offline Rudolf Spielmann forever Posts: 10777 Location: Moengo Joined: 01/05/04 Gender:	Re: Anand-Kramnik 2008 World Championships! Reply #171 - 10/27/08 at 10:28:47	Post Tools	Print Post
	Smyslov_Fan wrote on 10/27/08 at 03:54:45: Maybe he will indeed win one game before the end. I doubt it. Kramnik has twice led slip away an advantage, which is uncharacteristically. I predict another draw.

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Smyslov_Fan God Member Correspondence fan Offline Progress depends on the unreasonable man. ~GBS Posts: 6902 Joined: 06/15/05	Re: Anand-Kramnik 2008 World Championships! Reply #170 - 10/27/08 at 03:54:45	Post Tools	Print Post
	This was the sort of game I expected to see from both sides. Finally, Kramnik is playing well now that there's no pressure to succeed. Maybe he will indeed win one game before the end.


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belgian Full Member Offline Passionate about chess and poker... Posts: 129 Location: Toronto Joined: 05/14/07 Gender:	Re: Anand-Kramnik 2008 World Championships! Reply #169 - 10/26/08 at 18:49:50	Post Tools	Print Post
	trw wrote on 10/26/08 at 18:18:48: What happens on Re1 instead of Rd7? 37.-a4! looks indeed good for Black and is likely the last chance to play for a win... In the game 38. Rd7 is likely the best move, as White draws after 38.-a4 39.Ra1! axb3 40.Bxb3 Rxb3 41.Rxc7.
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trw YaBB Moderator Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 1414 Joined: 05/06/08 Gender:	Re: Anand-Kramnik 2008 World Championships! Reply #168 - 10/26/08 at 18:18:48	Post Tools	Print Post
	Kramnik in time trouble missed the winning moves Bc7 and Rg8 and played the lemon Qc7 cause he clearly has his mind set on trading queens. Would have been interesting to see a4 played immediately instead of Re8. Also What happens on Re1 instead of Rd7?


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belgian Full Member Offline Passionate about chess and poker... Posts: 129 Location: Toronto Joined: 05/14/07 Gender:	Re: Anand-Kramnik 2008 World Championships! Reply #167 - 10/26/08 at 18:14:43	Post Tools	Print Post
	Both played poor moves in time trouble. Anand missed two other "easy" draws. Both 39.Ra1 and 40.Rd1 look like draws as White gets to double the rooks on the 7th, e.g. 40.Rd1 b2 41.Kg2 Rc1 42.Rdd7. Of course, none of this is easy with the ticking clock... However, even now 41... Rc2 42. Rxc2 bxc2 43. Bxe6 Rb1+ 44. Kg2 c1=Q 45. Rxc1 Rxc1 46. Bxf5 looks safe enough for White. Edit: It looks like White can also play 43.Bf1 Rb1 44.Rxc2 Rxf1+ 45.Kg2 Ra1 46.Rc6 but there is a nasty surprise: 43.Bf1? Rb2!!-+
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