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Re: Would Silman's endgame course be
Reply #18 - 11/02/08 at 18:33:51
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I have a similarly lengthy list of endgame books. Also, like your father, most are unread. Silman would get my vote as it's managed to get me reading it ! Even more, I'm enjoying it and believe I'm benefiting from it !
  
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Re: Would Silman's endgame course be
Reply #17 - 11/02/08 at 02:46:29
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Nietzsche wrote on 11/01/08 at 21:34:59:
I'd go with Silman, Chernin, and Snape in whatever order you choose.
Personally, I enjoyed the Chernev book quite a lot since it was complete games and more interesting for me.  That said, I think just find one that most appeals to your personal sensibility (i.e. read the first chapter and make up your mind if this is the one for you). Other people cannot tell you which book you will enjoy the most.  You have several nice options to choose from there.

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p.s. - I would definitely avoid Schiller.  He sometimes has huge mistakes in his work and ranges from merely lazy to basically lying to you;  really awful.
He can write books that are, as Miles famously said, "Utter Crap" 

In general, avoid Schiller! Sad


Alright, I wont read Schiller's book.
  
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Re: Would Silman's endgame course be
Reply #16 - 11/01/08 at 22:27:48
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I went ahead and began reading Silman's endgame course and I'm speeding through the chapters. I started at the 1400-1599 section because I knew all the material before it, and I am already at the 1800-1999 chapter after 4-5 hours of study. I am really enjoying this, and I know a ton more about the endgame than I did just a few days ago  Grin.
  
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Re: Would Silman's endgame course be
Reply #15 - 11/01/08 at 21:34:59
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I'd go with Silman, Chernin, and Snape in whatever order you choose.
Personally, I enjoyed the Chernev book quite a lot since it was complete games and more interesting for me.  That said, I think just find one that most appeals to your personal sensibility (i.e. read the first chapter and make up your mind if this is the one for you). Other people cannot tell you which book you will enjoy the most.  You have several nice options to choose from there.

Nietzsche

p.s. - I would definitely avoid Schiller.  He sometimes has huge mistakes in his work and ranges from merely lazy to basically lying to you;  really awful.
He can write books that are, as Miles famously said, "Utter Crap" 

In general, avoid Schiller! Sad
  
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Re: Would Silman's endgame course be
Reply #14 - 11/01/08 at 20:51:25
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I would go for Silman as the basic source on both endgame theory and understanding. For variety, I really like Rosen' Chess Endgame Training, it has more theoretical positions than Silman's book and is designed for quiz/repetition to make sure you really know the important stuff. The same goes for Hall's "Endgame Challenge", but I prefer Rosen.

For endgame thinking I like Soltis' two books and LB Hansen's "Secrets of Chess Endgame Strategy", even though they are not on your list. Something specifically on endgame tactics is also useful at some point.
  
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Re: Would Silman's endgame course be
Reply #13 - 11/01/08 at 15:26:30
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I have the following  and would rank them as follows:

1.Silman's Complete Endgame Course - Jeremy Silman
2.Capablanca's Best Chess Endings - Irving Chernev
3.Chess Endings Made Simple - Ian Snape
4.Chess Endgame Training - Bernd Rosen

They were all quite good, but I'd go for the first two, IMO. I didn't care for the Lev Alburt style myself, but everyone's different. Wink

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Re: Would Silman's endgame course be
Reply #12 - 11/01/08 at 12:44:26
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up and comer wrote on 10/31/08 at 21:09:31:
XSilman's Complete Endgame Course - Jeremy Silman

Improve Your Endgame Play - Glenn Flear

XPandolfini's Endgame Course - Bruce Pandolfini

XSecrets of Rook Endings - John Nunn

639 Essential Endgame Positions - Eric Schiller

(2 copies of) Endgame Challenge - John Nunn

XChess Endgame Quiz - Larry Evans

Chess Endings Made Simple - Ian Snape

XCapablanca's Best Chess Endings - Irving Chernev

Endgame Challenge! - John Hall

Basic Endgame Strategy (queens and rooks)- Bill Robertie

XFundamental Chess Endings - Karsten Muller and Frank Lamprecht

XChess Endgame Training - Bernd Rosen

Pawn Endings - A. Cvetkov


I put an X in front of the books I own just so you know where I'm coming from. I'd definitely go with Silman's Course or Pandolfini's Course. Both are good and very appropriate for where you're at. I'd probably lean a little more toward Silman because of the explanations, but you could easily use both of them together.
  
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Re: Would Silman's endgame course be
Reply #11 - 10/31/08 at 22:42:56
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kylemeister wrote on 10/31/08 at 21:37:22:
I guess he kept buying endgame books in the hope of finding one you would read.  That's easily more endgame books than I have owned in my life -- and I'm old enough that I might suggest starting with "Chess Endings:  Essential Knowledge."  True enough, that book lacks the comtemporary rah-rah self-help flavor of the Silman tome ...  


Yeah, that and the fact that he just likes to own a lot of books on whatever subject he is interested in. We must have something like 100 chess books or more laying around the house.
  
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Re: Would Silman's endgame course be
Reply #10 - 10/31/08 at 22:28:02
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slates wrote on 10/31/08 at 08:59:51:
I liked 'Just the Facts' by Lev Alburt for basic endgame study; I also think Silman is good and prefer it to Soltis, which I didn't enjoy that much despite the good reviews. But one of my favourite endgame books is Essential Chess Endings by James Howell, if you can still find it.



I concur this is the best Endgame book I have ever read. Mostly cause it doesn't just cover the 'correct' stuff but explains some common pitfalls and why they are pitfalls using real examples and good explanation.

But of the books you mentioned already owning, I recommend Chess Endgame Training - Bernd Rosen
  
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Re: Would Silman's endgame course be
Reply #9 - 10/31/08 at 22:21:54
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The Snape book was good, from what I have seen of it.  

Incidentally, if you manage to make it through both copies of Nunn's rather difficult Endgame Challenge studies you'll have done exceptionally well, although the second copy will be easier than the first  Wink
  
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Re: Would Silman's endgame course be
Reply #8 - 10/31/08 at 21:37:22
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I guess he kept buying endgame books in the hope of finding one you would read.  That's easily more endgame books than I have owned in my life -- and I'm old enough that I might suggest starting with "Chess Endings:  Essential Knowledge."  True enough, that book lacks the comtemporary rah-rah self-help flavor of the Silman tome ...
  
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Re: Would Silman's endgame course be
Reply #7 - 10/31/08 at 21:09:31
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Silman's Complete Endgame Course - Jeremy Silman

Improve Your Endgame Play - Glenn Flear

Pandolfini's Endgame Course - Bruce Pandolfini

Secrets of Rook Endings - John Nunn

639 Essential Endgame Positions - Eric Schiller

(2 copies of) Endgame Challenge - John Nunn

Chess Endgame Quiz - Larry Evans

Chess Endings Made Simple - Ian Snape

Capablanca's Best Chess Endings - Irving Chernev

Endgame Challenge! - John Hall

Basic Endgame Strategy (queens and rooks)- Bill Robertie

Fundamental Chess Endings - Karsten Muller and Frank Lamprecht

Chess Endgame Training - Bernd Rosen

Pawn Endings - A. Cvetkov
  
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Re: Would Silman's endgame course be
Reply #6 - 10/31/08 at 20:59:17
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Actually I just looked through my house and I have a ton of books on the endgame that my dad has compiled from going to various tournaments with me. How about I type in the books and you tell me what order I should read them in or if I should skip some.
  
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Re: Would Silman's endgame course be
Reply #5 - 10/31/08 at 16:29:52
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It's a fairly inexpensive book, actually - cheaper cover price than any of the others mentioned here, but nyoke may be referring to the ridiculous asking price I've just noticed for it on Amazon (UK) which beggars belief.  If it's really hard to find secondhand then I'd opt for Silman.
  
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Re: Would Silman's endgame course be
Reply #4 - 10/31/08 at 14:50:00
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and if you can afford it...
  
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