(UTC)
Latest Updates:
  ChessPub Forum › Chess Publishing Openings › Anti-Sicilians › Closed Sicilian/GPA against. 2...e6/3...a6/4...b5
(Moderators: Bibs, trw)
‹ Previous Topic | Next Topic ›
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1
Topic Tools
Hot Topic (More than 10 Replies) Closed Sicilian/GPA against. 2...e6/3...a6/4...b5 (Read 7535 times)
zoo
Ex Member


Re: Closed Sicilian/GPA against. 2...e6/3...a6/4...b5
Reply #11 - 01/22/09 at 12:27:24
Post Tools
The problem for Black with 1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 e6 3.g3 d5 is that he gets too much equality, making him difficult to win against lower opposition in serious games. Apart from that, it's fine!
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Schaakhamster
God Member
*****
Offline


I Love ChessPublishing!

Posts: 650
Joined: 05/13/08
Re: Closed Sicilian/GPA against. 2...e6/3...a6/4...b5
Reply #10 - 01/22/09 at 10:03:00
Post Tools
One of my blitzcompanions play the GP and my answers has been in the line of 2 ... e6 3 f4 a6. It seems to give a fully acceptable game for black, denying black his "hacking the opponent of the board"-fun the g6-lines seems to give.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
MNb
God Member
*****
Offline


Rudolf Spielmann forever

Posts: 10757
Location: Moengo
Joined: 01/05/04
Gender: Male
Re: Closed Sicilian/GPA against. 2...e6/3...a6/4...b5
Reply #9 - 12/24/08 at 20:02:34
Post Tools
5.g3 d5 6.d3 dxe4 might be even simpler and more boring. After 6...d4 7.Ne2 White might argue that he has a good version of the KID with colours reversed.
  
The book had the effect good books usually have: it made the stupids more stupid, the intelligent more intelligent and the other thousands of readers remained unchanged.
GC Lichtenberg
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Kowl
Junior Member
**
Offline


I Love ChessPublishing!

Posts: 63
Joined: 10/28/08
Re: Closed Sicilian/GPA against. 2...e6/3...a6/4...b5
Reply #8 - 12/24/08 at 10:31:30
Post Tools
MNb wrote on 12/24/08 at 02:40:56:
Yes. Do we also agree that the GPA does not work after 1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.f4 e6 4.Nf3 a6 ?


5.g3 d5 doesnt look great for white. 6.d3 d4!? 7.Nge2 Nf6 - it doesnt look like white is 'attacking' so much in this grand prix attack anymore
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
MNb
God Member
*****
Offline


Rudolf Spielmann forever

Posts: 10757
Location: Moengo
Joined: 01/05/04
Gender: Male
Re: Closed Sicilian/GPA against. 2...e6/3...a6/4...b5
Reply #7 - 12/24/08 at 02:40:56
Post Tools
Yes. Do we also agree that the GPA does not work after 1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.f4 e6 4.Nf3 a6 ?
  
The book had the effect good books usually have: it made the stupids more stupid, the intelligent more intelligent and the other thousands of readers remained unchanged.
GC Lichtenberg
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Kowl
Junior Member
**
Offline


I Love ChessPublishing!

Posts: 63
Joined: 10/28/08
Re: Closed Sicilian/GPA against. 2...e6/3...a6/4...b5
Reply #6 - 12/23/08 at 23:32:34
Post Tools
So we agree after 1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 e6 the GPA just doesnt work?
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
MNb
God Member
*****
Offline


Rudolf Spielmann forever

Posts: 10757
Location: Moengo
Joined: 01/05/04
Gender: Male
Re: Closed Sicilian/GPA against. 2...e6/3...a6/4...b5
Reply #5 - 12/23/08 at 19:20:07
Post Tools
Strategy_Rules wrote on 12/23/08 at 13:32:53:
I had a look at 2.Nc3 e6. In my view 3.f4 d5! and black already equalized. 3.g3 is more annoying. 3...d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.d3 is not so easy for black.


I find this hard to believe, Black has a nice centre. When I looked at this line via 3.Nge2 Nc6 4.g3 d5 5.exd5 exd5 I saw some games in which Black played a timely d5-d4 and White had absolutely nothing. Iirc there is a game Spassky-Korchnoi with this idea.
  
The book had the effect good books usually have: it made the stupids more stupid, the intelligent more intelligent and the other thousands of readers remained unchanged.
GC Lichtenberg
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Strategy_Rules
Full Member
***
Offline


I Love ChessPublishing!

Posts: 226
Joined: 08/05/06
Gender: Male
Re: Closed Sicilian/GPA against. 2...e6/3...a6/4...b5
Reply #4 - 12/23/08 at 13:32:53
Post Tools
I had a look at 2.Nc3 e6. In my view 3.f4 d5! and black already equalized. 3.g3 is more annoying. 3...d5 4.exd5 exd5 5.d3 is not so easy for black. 3.g3 Nc6 4.Nge2 (avoiding 4...g6) 4...d5 5.exd5 exd5 6.d3 will probably transpose to 3...d5.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Kowl
Junior Member
**
Offline


I Love ChessPublishing!

Posts: 63
Joined: 10/28/08
Re: Closed Sicilian/GPA against. 2...e6/3...a6/4...b5
Reply #3 - 12/23/08 at 02:14:11
Post Tools
RedIvan wrote on 12/17/08 at 05:23:27:
Almost 100% of my recent games against the Sicilian have started 1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 e6 3.g3 (or 3.f4) ... a6. It has been played against me so many times  lately that I wonder if this hasn't been published somewhere as a universal black system against the CS/GPA.

Indeed, it poses different problems for white. Is anyone aware of a recent recommendation that would make this line so popular?


I play 2...e6 to both 2.Nf3 and 2.Nc3. 3.f4?! (GPA) doesnt really work as well against e6 as it does Nc6  or d6 IMHO. So you're better off sticking with your other plan of 1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 e6 3.g3 as black is much less likely to be worried about 4.Bb5 after Nc6 (the reason I play 3...a6) as black expects white to place the bishop on g2 so would probably continue 3...d5.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
MNb
God Member
*****
Offline


Rudolf Spielmann forever

Posts: 10757
Location: Moengo
Joined: 01/05/04
Gender: Male
Re: Closed Sicilian/GPA against. 2...e6/3...a6/4...b5
Reply #2 - 12/20/08 at 14:07:22
Post Tools
That might be a good advise because of 1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 Nc6 (e6) 3.f4 e6 (a6) 4.Nf3 a6 (Nc6) 5.d4 (or Black will play ...d5) cxd4 6.Nxd4 Nxd4 7.Qxd4 b5.
  
The book had the effect good books usually have: it made the stupids more stupid, the intelligent more intelligent and the other thousands of readers remained unchanged.
GC Lichtenberg
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
TN
God Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 3420
Joined: 11/07/08
Gender: Male
Re: Closed Sicilian/GPA against. 2...e6/3...a6/4...b5
Reply #1 - 12/17/08 at 06:09:49
Post Tools
'Fighting the Anti-Sicilians' by IM Richard Palliser provides a whole chapter's coverage solely on the 2...a6 variation. 2...e6 followed by 3...a6 tends to transpose.

You can always play 3.Nf3 and transpose to the Open Sicilian...
  
All our dreams come true if we have the courage to pursue them.
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
RedIvan
YaBB Newbies
*
Offline


Carthago delenda est!

Posts: 25
Location: Houston
Joined: 03/14/03
Closed Sicilian/GPA against. 2...e6/3...a6/4...b5
12/17/08 at 05:23:27
Post Tools
Almost 100% of my recent games against the Sicilian have started 1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 e6 3.g3 (or 3.f4) ... a6. It has been played against me so many times  lately that I wonder if this hasn't been published somewhere as a universal black system against the CS/GPA.

Indeed, it poses different problems for white. Is anyone aware of a recent recommendation that would make this line so popular?
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1
Topic Tools
‹ Previous Topic | Next Topic ›
Bookmarks: del.icio.us Digg Facebook Google Google+ Linked in reddit StumbleUpon Twitter Yahoo
 
  « Board Index ‹ Board Top  

ChessPub Forum » Powered by YaBB 2.6.12!
YaBB Forum Software © 2000-2024. All Rights Reserved.

Valid RSS Valid XHTML Valid CSS Powered by Perl Source Forge