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Re: that's one I haven't seen before
Reply #20 - 02/06/09 at 20:10:49
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Dragan Glas wrote on 02/06/09 at 18:46:56:
Greetings,

slates wrote on 02/06/09 at 07:30:24:
Dragan Glas wrote on 02/06/09 at 00:48:54:
Greetings,

@DrKodos

I'd suggest, rather than running this or that software, that you go to a reputable site for malware removal - no offence to slates' suggestion.

You can find a list here - see the "Visit a spyware removal forum" list.

Whichever one you chose, give them the relevant information and follow their instructions to the letter. [Depending on which one you visit, you can tell them that I sent you - I work on some of them (SpywareHammer, Bleeping Computer)].

Kindest regards,

Dragan Glas


For what it's worth, the one I recommended is on the list (which itself only consists of 7 or 8) of reputable, free products they suggest at the site Dragan points you to.  

The IT company I work for have now adopted it as their usual choice of product when cleaning infected customer's computers, too.  As I said, I have no vested interest in this beyond the fact that it is free (I am somewhat financially 'restricted'!) and was the only software that rid me of the vundo variant trojan problem I had, despite trying others.  I'm sure the other products on the short list mentioned above may well be as good, but Dragan's point is valid that there are plenty of rogue products out there masquerading as your panacea, too.  

Slates, I meant no offence to you or your suggestion, it is merely that, depending on what he's downloaded - on each computer - he needs to follow a procedure; it's different for whether it's a rootkit or a (mere) virus. If the laptop problem is definitely a BIOS corruption - no guarantee that it is at this stage(!) - that too will have to be diagnosed and addressed according to what the results indicate.

Although, in most cases, where one's just downloaded/been infected with a virus [How does the average person know with what they've infected their system??] can be dealt with through a suitable product - such as SAS - if one uses such out-of-context/sequence, one can render the situation worse - even unrecoverable: at which point, wipe/reinstall may be the only option - and if the victim's files/data have not been copied first...!!

It's best to go to a specialist site, as listed, to see what they recommend first, rather than "have a go yourself" and then find you've just "fubarred" your system.

Kindest regards,

Dragan Glas


No problem, Dragan, I bow to your superior knowledge on this.  Good luck to the Doc!
  
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Re: that's one I haven't seen before
Reply #19 - 02/06/09 at 19:05:31
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Greetings,

Viceroy wrote on 02/06/09 at 08:01:42:
Well, this whole thread makes me glad I switched to Linux (Ubuntu). It's free and you don't need to worry about adware/malware, viruses, firewalls, scandisk,defrag etc. If it's possible you really should consider upgrading to Linux. It's much easier these days than it used to be and you can have the dual boot option, so you don't have to give up Windows totally. Though I have, and don't miss it at all.

Seriously, Drkrodos, you should give it a try. BTW Shredder works on Linux, but I haven't tried Wine yet, so I don't know how well or badly Fritz works. From a security point of view Linux is clearly far superior. Remember it's Free as in Freedom ...... Cool

There shouldn't be any problems running Wine or some flavour of Windows on Linux with one's chess software of choice.

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Re: that's one I haven't seen before
Reply #18 - 02/06/09 at 18:46:56
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Greetings,

slates wrote on 02/06/09 at 07:30:24:
Dragan Glas wrote on 02/06/09 at 00:48:54:
Greetings,

@DrKodos

I'd suggest, rather than running this or that software, that you go to a reputable site for malware removal - no offence to slates' suggestion.

You can find a list here - see the "Visit a spyware removal forum" list.

Whichever one you chose, give them the relevant information and follow their instructions to the letter. [Depending on which one you visit, you can tell them that I sent you - I work on some of them (SpywareHammer, Bleeping Computer)].

Kindest regards,

Dragan Glas


For what it's worth, the one I recommended is on the list (which itself only consists of 7 or 8) of reputable, free products they suggest at the site Dragan points you to.  

The IT company I work for have now adopted it as their usual choice of product when cleaning infected customer's computers, too.  As I said, I have no vested interest in this beyond the fact that it is free (I am somewhat financially 'restricted'!) and was the only software that rid me of the vundo variant trojan problem I had, despite trying others.  I'm sure the other products on the short list mentioned above may well be as good, but Dragan's point is valid that there are plenty of rogue products out there masquerading as your panacea, too.  

Slates, I meant no offence to you or your suggestion, it is merely that, depending on what he's downloaded - on each computer - he needs to follow a procedure; it's different for whether it's a rootkit or a (mere) virus. If the laptop problem is definitely a BIOS corruption - no guarantee that it is at this stage(!) - that too will have to be diagnosed and addressed according to what the results indicate.

Although, in most cases, where one's just downloaded/been infected with a virus [How does the average person know with what they've infected their system??] can be dealt with through a suitable product - such as SAS - if one uses such out-of-context/sequence, one can render the situation worse - even unrecoverable: at which point, wipe/reinstall may be the only option - and if the victim's files/data have not been copied first...!!

It's best to go to a specialist site, as listed, to see what they recommend first, rather than "have a go yourself" and then find you've just "fubarred" your system.

Kindest regards,

Dragan Glas
  
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Re: that's one I haven't seen before
Reply #17 - 02/06/09 at 08:01:42
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Well, this whole thread makes me glad I switched to Linux (Ubuntu). It's free and you don't need to worry about adware/malware, viruses, firewalls, scandisk,defrag etc. If it's possible you really should consider upgrading to Linux. It's much easier these days than it used to be and you can have the dual boot option, so you don't have to give up Windows totally. Though I have, and don't miss it at all.

Seriously, Drkrodos, you should give it a try. BTW Shredder works on Linux, but I haven't tried Wine yet, so I don't know how well or badly Fritz works. From a security point of view Linux is clearly far superior. Remember it's Free as in Freedom ...... Cool
  
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Re: that's one I haven't seen before
Reply #16 - 02/06/09 at 07:30:24
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Dragan Glas wrote on 02/06/09 at 00:48:54:
Greetings,

@DrKodos

I'd suggest, rather than running this or that software, that you go to a reputable site for malware removal - no offence to slates' suggestion.

You can find a list here - see the "Visit a spyware removal forum" list.

Whichever one you chose, give them the relevant information and follow their instructions to the letter. [Depending on which one you visit, you can tell them that I sent you - I work on some of them (SpywareHammer, Bleeping Computer)].

Kindest regards,

Dragan Glas


For what it's worth, the one I recommended is on the list (which itself only consists of 7 or 8) of reputable, free products they suggest at the site Dragan points you to.  

The IT company I work for have now adopted it as their usual choice of product when cleaning infected customer's computers, too.  As I said, I have no vested interest in this beyond the fact that it is free (I am somewhat financially 'restricted'!) and was the only software that rid me of the vundo variant trojan problem I had, despite trying others.  I'm sure the other products on the short list mentioned above may well be as good, but Dragan's point is valid that there are plenty of rogue products out there masquerading as your panacea, too.  
  
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Re: that's one I haven't seen before
Reply #15 - 02/06/09 at 01:59:42
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Greetings,

DrKodos, the help on the sites is free. The applications (anti-malware) will also be free versions - these sites don't purloin or recommend software for which you have to pay. Any that do are not worthy of your trust.

All that it requires of you is time and patience.

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Re: that's one I haven't seen before
Reply #14 - 02/06/09 at 01:35:24
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I sincerely appreciate all this advice.   Smiley

Now, back to slightly sarcasmo-mode:

The thing I like best about all of this is I just spent a bunch of $ on these other things and now I will have to spend some more on some other things and I don't fully understand how any of it actually works!  (So, I don't really know if it did!  - that makes me .....anxious) 

At what point do I just say "These things have become expensive disposable (mental) lighters!"  At (average) $1,000/unit (US D), one or two per year is not that much cost.  I mean the average yankee spends 5x that much on their wheels and most time that is sitting unused!  And in a bunker that probably cost extra, no less.

Does that phrase make sense "extra, no less?"

Anyway, now I will go get nine jobs to pay for this.     Cry
  
I know I've made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission.
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Re: that's one I haven't seen before
Reply #13 - 02/06/09 at 00:48:54
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Greetings,

@DrKodos

I'd suggest, rather than running this or that software, that you go to a reputable site for malware removal - no offence to slates' suggestion.

You can find a list here - see the "Visit a spyware removal forum" list.

Whichever one you chose, give them the relevant information and follow their instructions to the letter. [Depending on which one you visit, you can tell them that I sent you - I work on some of them (SpywareHammer, Bleeping Computer)].

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Reply #12 - 02/05/09 at 22:37:02
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I should add to the above post that I tried various 'Vundo removal tools' to no avail, hence my enthusiasm for the product I mentioned at the start of the post.
  
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Re: that's one I haven't seen before
Reply #11 - 02/05/09 at 22:34:37
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Drkodos

I'm no expert but I would suggest you try a program called SuperAnti Spyware (superantispyware.com) instead of Search and Destroy.  I would normally not post links here to other sites, nor advocate products such as this were it not for the efficacy of this one; when I inadvertently got infected online by the Vundo trojan, and then seemingly some other nasties, Search and Destroy didn't really root them all out.  The IT guys at work took a look at my computer and thought they'd solved the issues after a couple of hours but then I had problems again once I'd got it home. 

Anyway, to cut a long story short, I had a couple of weeks of taking the PC to work for them to check out and then bringing it home again only to have recurrances of the trojan issue until I eventually found the above prog after much research on the net and am glad I did.  It's a free download with the usual restriction on certain advanced functions unless you upgrade to a paid copy, but the basics should be all you need in most cases.  I realise that the frequency of updates for such software as this can resemble the information arms race that the world of chess openings can be, so don't take this as a negative dig at Search and Destroy, which I happily used for many years - I simply think that SuperAntiSpyware, despite the silly name, is a better product as it found the bad guys on my computer that S&D missed.  I ditched Norton a long time ago - F-Secure is the one I use now, Norton slowed my machine down too much. 
One more thing - when using Mozilla Firefox, are you using the NoScript addon? This is one of the few (if not the only) thing that will protect against the problem of clickjacking whilst online, and is a great plus point for Firefox over IE, in my opinion. Hope this helps.

Good luck.
  
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Reply #10 - 02/05/09 at 20:30:07
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On 2nd machine, home desktop, I haccidentally had both Norton and AVG running and they sort of acted like a hyperactibe auto-immune system and kept attacking each other.

I made mistake of trying to uninstall Norton.  I get confused.

I find some registry issues.  I call friend. Fiend says Seek & Destroy the malware and stuff I have clogging me up and making web pages load slower than sloughter understand open games.   

In order to run this one "Cleaner" it needs to have anti viral off.

So, I end up taking all protection of the machine not realizing I am still hooked up to internet.

Later on I am  looking for a specific "plug-in".

Mozilla does not like it so much, so I switch to Explorer.

I download a file.  I do not realize I am working without a "net".  I open the file, and hello Frisco!  I usually have the AVG set, and the Mozilla browser automatically scanning, all that stuff.

I got mentally lazy and I paid.  (well not yet...I am still shopping)

So now I am running on the net with stone knives and bearskins, and I am most neurotic (and paranoid!) about this entire issue.

  
I know I've made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission.
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Reply #9 - 02/05/09 at 20:21:23
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Dragan Glas wrote on 02/05/09 at 18:45:12:
Greetings,

I'd be interested to know what sort of "slight holes in my security" those were? Windows/Linux updates? Or some other security applications?

Kindest regards,

Dragan Glas


On one machine I had not updated windows.   

It was a laptop.  When my wife went to work on Jan 5 (it is hers) I told her to leave it with me and I would update it!  Well, quite the opposite happened.

I was not paying too much attention when started it up and thought I was just on the net I think hit a site that must have been a sporgery (or whatever you call malacious sites) because it popped up a window (that I really thought was Norton) with a message telling me it was time to run a virus scan .  I think now it is some Bizarro anti-virus site telling me I am infected and click here, and then they are selling me Bulgarian porno, or something.  Either way, it was not good.  I really effed it.

I am an idiot, no doubt, because I thought it was the Norton she runs on that machine.  Boy, stuff sure happens fast sometimes.

So now, the BIOS is corrupted according to mate I got helping me>  He has a device that he used to get into the hd and get her contacts and other pertinent info  but he is telling me with the BIOS (I do not understand what it really is, even though I know what it stand for) not working I now have a nice Toshiba Paperweight.

  
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Reply #8 - 02/05/09 at 18:45:12
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Greetings,

I'd be interested to know what sort of "slight holes in my security" those were? Windows/Linux updates? Or some other security applications?

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Reply #7 - 02/05/09 at 15:44:25
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GMTonyKosten wrote on 02/05/09 at 14:08:18:
I don't think it is a breach of security - as far as I can see the only members who have received this are those who haven't hidden their email address, thus leaving it open for any bot to grab.



I am over sensitive.

It is perhaps because I lost lost two computers over the recent Holidays because of slight holes in my security that I neglected.

I am willing to continually sacrifice canaries (my short term sanity) to make sure the air is still breathable down here in my cave, er, lair.


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Reply #6 - 02/05/09 at 14:33:21
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I recommend that all members click 'Hide email from public' in their options (User CP) unless they have a particular reason not to.
  
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