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Re: Meeting 1.c3
Reply #24 - 03/20/09 at 04:39:30
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@SWJediknight

I assume it is White to move in your given middlegame, since with Black to move Black wins material with 1...Nd4! 2.Qd1 (2.Qd7 Ne2 loses a pawn) 2...Nf5 and the double threats of ...Ng3 and ...Ne3 force White to cede material. 

As White, I would probably play 1.e4, followed by a queenside attack starting with b4 and Nb3 at some point. 
  
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Re: Meeting 1.c3
Reply #23 - 03/20/09 at 01:50:27
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Lol very good!

Here's a very instructive middlegame position from the Scrambled Egg Attack.  White gains some useful space with the moves f3, g3 and h3:

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Re: Meeting 1.c3
Reply #22 - 03/19/09 at 21:15:09
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Given the importance and trendiness of 1.c3 in theoretical discussions, it is worth knowing the key strategies in the typical middlegames of 1.c3. Here are some typical middlegames:

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Re: Meeting 1.c3
Reply #21 - 03/19/09 at 19:42:17
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As the God of obscure, avant-garde chess publications I'll mention that the MOB once had an article featuring 1.c3 f5 2.e4!?.  If memory serves me correctly I believe we analyzed it to a forced perpetual check with best play.  Note:  My memory often fails me.
  
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Re: Meeting 1.c3
Reply #20 - 03/19/09 at 17:48:27
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MNb wrote on 03/19/09 at 16:34:11:
Remove your blinkers and you shall find.
(I really should not post this, for many, many reasons, but LDZ is kind of irresistable).


My time here is so much more enjoyable with Gambit's messages blocked off.  Try it yourself and see.
  
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Re: Meeting 1.c3
Reply #19 - 03/19/09 at 16:34:11
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Remove your blinkers and you shall find.
(I really should not post this, for many, many reasons, but LDZ is kind of irresistable).
  
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Re: Meeting 1.c3
Reply #18 - 03/19/09 at 13:03:44
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Uruk, you fool! How is the gambit 1 d4 d5 2 e4 "refuted"?  Where is your supporting analyses?
  
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Re: Meeting 1.c3
Reply #17 - 03/19/09 at 09:35:04
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Actually there is major problem with the section's naming,
it should be called "Queen's Gambit".

For example the London or now-refuted gambit (d4 d5 e4) arise after d4 d5, yet aren't to be found here.
  
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Re: Meeting 1.c3
Reply #16 - 03/19/09 at 05:25:51
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Seth_Xoma wrote on 03/19/09 at 03:09:03:
You are wrong...2.h3!!+- is clearly winning for White. I have analyzed this variation extensively the last fifteen years with several Grandmasters whom I have paid enormous sums of money to agree with me. I even wrote a highly-praised book on the Scrambled Egg Attack back in 1999. I challenge you to a corr game to prove you wrong. But be warned, sometimes it takes years for my intuition to kick in.


Grin This is the deepest post I've seen since everybody forgot how to apply Steinitz' space principle, way back in the day! White just plays h3, g3 and f3 and later transforms his impressive space advantage into developement, then material, then checkmate.
  
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Re: Meeting 1.c3
Reply #15 - 03/19/09 at 03:56:37
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MNb wrote on 03/19/09 at 02:34:09:
You guys all are wrong. This thread belongs in the Daring Defence section, as 1.c3 f5! is obviously Black's best.


It's kind of funny you mention that, because believe it or not, the only over the board game I've seen when 1.c3 was played, Black responded with 1...f5.  The game was between an IM (White) and an FM; strange, huh?  That's always stuck in my memory.
  
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Re: Meeting 1.c3
Reply #14 - 03/19/09 at 03:09:03
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MNb wrote on 03/19/09 at 02:34:09:
You guys all are wrong. This thread belongs in the Daring Defence section, as 1.c3 f5! is obviously Black's best.


You are wrong...2.h3!!+- is clearly winning for White. I have analyzed this variation extensively the last fifteen years with several Grandmasters whom I have paid enormous sums of money to agree with me. I even wrote a highly-praised book on the Scrambled Egg Attack back in 1999. I challenge you to a corr game to prove you wrong. But be warned, sometimes it takes years for my intuition to kick in.
  
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Re: Meeting 1.c3
Reply #13 - 03/19/09 at 02:34:09
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You guys all are wrong. This thread belongs in the Daring Defence section, as 1.c3 f5! is obviously Black's best.
  
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Re: Meeting 1.c3
Reply #12 - 03/19/09 at 00:57:19
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Ho, hum.  Has anyone replied yet?

I seem to hear a whisper, as if from beyond the grave.
  
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Re: Meeting 1.c3
Reply #11 - 03/18/09 at 23:46:18
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1 c3 is called the Zaragoza opening, after Master Juncosa of that Spanish city.
  
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Re: Meeting 1.c3
Reply #10 - 03/18/09 at 20:08:45
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nyoke wrote on 03/18/09 at 17:52:09:
Obviously this belongs in the d-pawn-specials section, with the other reversed slavs.


Yes, and how to meet 1.c4 obviously belongs in the flank openings section.  But since it begins, "I like to play the QGA, and...," the moderator has decided to leave it here.  You generally can't get a QGA after 1.c4, for crying out loud, so how this logic works I can't imagine. 

This thread was created as a parody.  I apologize to anyone who feels that he has wasted his time here.  But really, what's going to happen in one year when somebody wants to look up English material?  Is he going to know to look under 1.d4 d5?

Honestly now, I think that Smyslov Fan's only reason for not moving the 1.c4 thread is his annoyance with my repeated requests that he do so.  But it shouldn't be my job, but his, to pay attention to topics started in wrong forums.
  
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