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Re: Study group
Reply #13 - 06/12/09 at 12:16:44
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I hope you got permission from yourself to write that Cheesy

Since the people that responded to this post suddenly stopped responding via email it seems I will have to rethink this. Perhaps I will take up Tony's offer!
  
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Re: Study group
Reply #12 - 06/11/09 at 00:22:51
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Why don't you just subscribe to improveyourchess.com, much simpler! Wink
  
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Re: Study group
Reply #11 - 06/11/09 at 00:03:57
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Hi Zatara, nice to have you on board. The idea would be that we create a forum on our own where we discuss our progress with the positions and where anyone who feels like discussing or needs help with the theory or themes of a certain position (be it endgames, middlegames or pure combinations) can share those positions. This approach is suggested by many writers such as Dvoretsky who says that students should write down their thoughts when analysing. Naturally, not all positions are of this type, many times it is the case of a two or three move combination, but once in a while they can be quite tricky. By asking each other questions like "how could I have solved this?" someone who on the contrary finds the exercise easy can come with useful tips. Most importantly though is that we can motivate each other.

So it seems there has been four people who have expressed their interest so we need four more until we can start.
  
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Re: Study group
Reply #10 - 06/10/09 at 23:04:32
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Hi Greymattermatters,
Interesting name!!  I am interested.  I don't understand how it will work??  You e-mail us with 20 positions via e-mail and we respond??? my email is thezenbuhda@aol.com.
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Re: Study group
Reply #9 - 06/10/09 at 12:04:42
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 06/10/09 at 04:37:56:
I don't share MNb's concern that this is advertising because there are no commercial interests at stake.  This appears to be a valid chess enterprise (hence, no money  Lips Sealed ).

I am interested in a study group, but this particular one leaves me cold because I can go through books with tactics on my own.  

I don't like to count how many I do each day as I don't see it as an end in itself. Many positions could productively be studied for days on end. Rather, I would spend 20 minutes a day working on chess. (Provided I was structured enough to do even that.)


I see your point, but even though the idea is to solve the positions alone the other part is to bring forward any questions or show positions you did not get correct to other members of the group. Also, as you mentioned yourself, it can be difficult to motivate onself to do even 20 min aday. In this format there is some group pressure for you to do it and in the end this will benefit everyone of the group. Imagine, how many do you think would stick to a study plan like this being completely alone. In chess you do not see the results straight away and this is one reason why people become unmotivated and are not able to follow through. Another reason this is different from solving yourself it that it is not always easy to reflect on your own. If you want to learn you have to actually do some reflective practice and not just look in the answer to see if it was right or not but how many can claim to be able to do this all alone.

There has currently been three people who have expressed their interest and we are looking for at least seven more. I am sure that at least 50%, perhaps more, will drop out on the way. The more people we are to begin with the more people will be left at the end. For those who make it I can personally guarantee that they will have improved substantially. However, nothing is for free!
  
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Re: Study group
Reply #8 - 06/10/09 at 04:37:56
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I don't share MNb's concern that this is advertising because there are no commercial interests at stake.  This appears to be a valid chess enterprise (hence, no money  Lips Sealed ).

I am interested in a study group, but this particular one leaves me cold because I can go through books with tactics on my own.  

I don't like to count how many I do each day as I don't see it as an end in itself. Many positions could productively be studied for days on end. Rather, I would spend 20 minutes a day working on chess. (Provided I was structured enough to do even that.)
  
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Re: Study group
Reply #7 - 06/09/09 at 15:47:32
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Let me just say that in regard to Rubens post that there is no maximum or minimum rating but it is probably a good thing if you want to join that your rating is not 1400 since this would perhaps be too challenging, but by all means if you feel up for the task and have time then you are still free to join. For sure there are going to be a some drop-offs along the way.
  
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Re: Study group
Reply #6 - 06/09/09 at 15:42:32
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Zatox wrote on 06/09/09 at 13:09:56:
I'm pretty interested. My rating is now 1600, but I win against most 18xx players. (My trainers also say I have 1850+). I'm a youth player, ya can email me anyday, rubenkuijper@live.nl


Done, I have sent you an email.
  
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Re: Study group
Reply #5 - 06/09/09 at 15:14:03
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Will be hard to do this online and maintain motivation. 


It is definately a challenge and it requires commitment. Personally I never quit once I say I will do something. I've become the equivalent to a master in many other fields and this is simple compared to other things I have done in my life. Besides, I have been briefly looking through the positions and some are frankly quite easy while others will require quite some time. Whoever wishes to be part of this will have to be prepared to work 1-2 h aday (at least). But again, you set your own pace, if you can not do the prescribed number of positions it is your own decision, in the end you are your own boss.
  
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Re: Study group
Reply #4 - 06/09/09 at 13:09:56
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I'm pretty interested. My rating is now 1600, but I win against most 18xx players. (My trainers also say I have 1850+). I'm a youth player, ya can email me anyday, rubenkuijper@live.nl
  

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Reply #3 - 06/09/09 at 12:34:08
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Will be hard to do this online and maintain motivation. 
  
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Re: Study group
Reply #2 - 06/09/09 at 04:51:35
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Does it make any difference that this it not a commercial project in any way? If not then I will ask in any case just to be on the safe side.
  
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Re: Study group
Reply #1 - 06/08/09 at 21:21:57
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Would anyone who wishes to advertise content on another site or Forum please have the courtesy to ask me first, otherwise your missive risks being deleted! Cry
  

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06/08/09 at 18:55:30
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Hi everyone,
 
I am looking to get together a group for a one year long chess endeavour where we study tactical middlegame positions as well as endgame positions together on a forum that we have created ourselves. In all it will amount to 10,000 problems, approximately 27/day. I know this sounds like a ridiculous amount but if you want to get good at any thing there is no short cut.

You might have heard of this concept before. Indeed, my role model for this project is Michael De La Maza's book "Rapid chess improvement" which you might have heard of. In it he prescribes learning 1000 tactical problems by heart by going through them altogether seven times (thus 7000 problems). From this he said to have gained 400 points in 400 days. If personally I could improve my chess by that much it would mean I would have reached above IM level.
 
The point with the group would be to make it less tedious and to be able to discuss and reflect on each position we found difficult out of the 27 we are supposed to do each day. Verbally discussing can be a fun thing and it surely helps to improve memorization of certain themes, especially when it comes to the endgame positions. Since all 10,000 positions are in chessbase format this will make it easy for  to copy the FEN and insert a diagram to the forum.
 
Again my goal is to have a group of a dozin or more people and no one rated below 1800. For anyone rated below 1800 they may find things too difficult but for 1800+ people the 27 problems aday should be a realistic task. I expect that one or two will drop out on the journey but those who make it I am sure they will have improved their game substantially.
 
If you are interested please respond with your thoughts. Also, let me say that this is supposed to be a fun and easy going thing. Life is just a play. Problems arise when people start to take themselves seriously. I definately do not want this to be a one man project on my part. The idea is that we all contribute and then we share the common joy of success afterwards. In the end it is up to each one personally to chose how much time they want to devote to this. Personally I am not looking to devote more than 2 hours including solving+posting. From it I hope to at least have improved 200 rating points. That is my personal goal and I think it is realistic... what is your goal?

So let me know what you think.
 
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