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Reply #9 - 07/03/09 at 08:27:26
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Zatara wrote on 07/03/09 at 04:46:44:
Thanks to everyone who posted!!  By the way is a main line theory repertoire with 1.d4 be less work than mainline 1.e4 and that is anther reason for recomending 1.d4 rather than e4?
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They both require a similar amount of work, although knowledge of theory is slightly more important in the 1.e4 lines. It's a matter of taste. 

I recall that MNb has stated in the past that 1.d4 in the hands of a tactical player is more tactical than 1.e4 played tactically - I don't agree with this but believe that both can be played very tactically or very positionally.
  

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Thanks to everyone who posted!!  By the way is a main line theory repertoire with 1.d4 be less work than mainline 1.e4 and that is anther reason for recomending 1.d4 rather than e4?
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Re: White repertoire
Reply #7 - 07/02/09 at 13:25:43
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Zatara wrote on 06/30/09 at 06:34:04:
Hi all,
What do people think of this repertoire?  It is inteded as a repertoire for the tactical player who doesn't have time to play 1.e4 or a really sharp 1.d4 repertoire.  It is based on 1.d4 2Nf3 and then 3.c4...  SO I avoid the Henning Schara gambit, the Benko, Benoni, Budapest while still playing interesting positions?!?!?
So:
KID: play Gligoric variation Fine.
Najdorf1: play Petrosian system Fine.
QGD: play Blackburne 1.d4 2.Nf3 3.c4 4.Nc3 5.Bf4 Fine. 
vs 1...g6 and 1...d6 play 2.e4 and go for 150 attack Fine.
vs dutch play 1d4 2. Nc3 and 3 Bg5 You're going to have to deal with 1...e6 to Dutch transpositions as well - be prepared for the Stonewall. Other than that - fine.
vs Benoni, Benko play d5 without c4 and of course if a a6 by black play a4 and Nc3 and develop... Fine.
vs QGA play main line I guess? 7. Bb3
vs semi slav and slav play Shabalov gambit and main line slav stuff  or play 1,d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 e6 5. Bg5 dxc4 6.e4 b5 7.a4Qb6 8.Bxf6 gxf6 9.Be2 Nd7 Go with the 5. Bg5 main line Semi-Slav with the main-line Botvinnik, 6. Bxf6 Moscow.

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Make sure you have something for the Grunfeld, Bogo-Indian, and attempts to play into the Noteboom, aside from that...

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Reply #6 - 07/01/09 at 10:51:08
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Zatara wrote on 06/30/09 at 06:34:04:
Hi all,
What do people think of this repertoire?  It is inteded as a repertoire for the tactical player who doesn't have time to play 1.e4 or a really sharp 1.d4 repertoire.  It is based on 1.d4 2Nf3 and then 3.c4...  SO I avoid the Henning Schara gambit, the Benko, Benoni, Budapest while still playing interesting positions?!?!? You can avoid the Benko, Benoni and Hennig-Schara with 3.Nf3 in each case. In my opinion these gambits are not so dangerous that they are worth avoiding, but I can understand that they are somewhat unpleasant to face at first.
So:
KID: play Gligoric variation Not tactical enough. Makogonov Variation with h3 and Nf3, or maybe 6.Bg5.
Najdorf2: play Petrosian system Agreed - but with 4.a3 or 4.Nc3?. The 4.g3 pawn sacrifices can also become tactical very quickly, eg Polugaevsky Gambit, 21st Century Gambit.
QGD: play Blackburne 1.d4 2.Nf3 3.c4 4.Nc3 5.Bf4 Another decent choice. Objectively I think 5.Bg5 is a better try for an advantage, though.
vs 1...g6 and 1...d6 play 2.e4 and go for 150 attack A good system, although there's also a case for 4.Bg5!?
vs dutch play 1d4 2. Nc3 and 3 Bg5A good, low-theory and easy-to-learn Anti-Dutch. The Staunton Gambit is the most obvious choice for a tactical player, though. If you are after material on the Staunton Gambit, the Hazai/Lukacs Yearbook surveys are the most recent material.
vs Benoni, Benko play d5 without c4 and of course if a a6 by black play a4 and Nc3 and develop... This is known as the Schmid Benoni, if Black plays ...d6 and ...g6. Have someting prepared against 2...c5 3.d5 b5, either 4.c4 or 4.Bg5.
vs QGA play main line I guess? via. an 3.e3 or 3.Nf3 move order? I recommend 7.Bb3 in the main line, a la Avrukh.
vs semi slav and slav play Shabalov gambit and main line slav stuff  or play 1,d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 e6 5. Bg5 dxc4 6.e4 b5 7.a4Qb6 8.Bxf6 gxf6 9.Be2 Nd7 I already discussed this in other threads. See those for my opinion.
Grunfeld: The 7.Bc4 Exchange is a good choice, but a good alternative is 4.Nf3 Bg7 5.Bf4. And keep in mind that after 2.Nf3 g6 3.c4 Bg7 4.Nc3 d5 you can't reach the Bc4 Exchange.

An advantage of the 1.d4 2.Nf3 move order over the 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 and Nf3 move order is that it makes a future transition to 1.Nf3 easier.

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Re: White repertoire
Reply #5 - 07/01/09 at 04:27:42
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I'm no d4 player but I heard that the 150 Attack was even better without e4 in, perhaps somebody can confirm that ?


In my opinion the 150-Attack is pretty harmless after 1.d4 d6 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nc3 and 4.e4 as Black does not have to play ...c6 and can prepare ...e5 instead. I also think 1.d4 d6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bf4 Bg7 5.Qd2 pretty dangerous. White tries to win a tempo; after Bc8-g4xf3 (s)he answers exf3 and begins the usual pawnstorm.

The Benoni without c2-c4 is not very tactical. And Black may reach a Benkö with 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.c4 c5.

You can avoid the Von Hennig-Schara etc. and still get interesting positions with for instance 1.f4.

OK, let me be serious; 1.d4, 2.Nf3 and 3.c4.
QGD (Be7) - Blackburne (is this a common name?)
QGD (Nbd7) - Exchange and Bf4
QGD (Bb4) - Main lines
Semi-Tarrasch - Main line 6.e4
Tarrasch - 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 e6 3.c4 c5 4.cxd5 exd5 5.Nc3 Nc6 6.Bf4
Slav and Triangle - 4.Qc2 or 4.Qb3.
QGA - Main lines

Queen's Indian - Petrosian
Bogo Indian - 4.Nc3
KID - Gligoric
GID - Russian System (Qb3) or 5.Bf4
Benoni - just don't play d4-d5. Play the Anglo-Benoni (Symmetrical English with an early d2-d4) and the Maroczy-Sicilian instead.
  

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Re: White repertoire
Reply #4 - 06/30/09 at 14:19:40
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And don't forget the Vienna after 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Nf3 Bb4. Keep in mind black can aim for this via a nimzo move order if they don't like the Queen's Indian. And then there is the Bogo. 

2.Nf3 does cut out some choices for your opponent, but it can limit you too. I have a friend who always plays 2.Nf3, and it works for him. He also has the Torre and Colle in his repertoire in addition to 3.c4, so he has plenty of options depending on his mood, opponent, etc.
  
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Reply #3 - 06/30/09 at 10:56:33
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I'm no d4 player but I heard that the 150 Attack was even better without e4 in, perhaps somebody can confirm that ?
Also on your Botvinnik line Black used to play 9...Bb7 (instead of ...Nd7) followed by a6,Nd7 and quickly taking on d5, is 9...Nd7 a refinement by recent theory?
  
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Re: White repertoire
Reply #2 - 06/30/09 at 08:39:42
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What about:
- 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 e6 3.c4 c5
- 6...c5 in the KID
- 1.d4 e6, 2...f5
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Also, Gruenfeld exchange with Nf3 and Bc4? It's either Ne2/Bc4 or Nf3/Rb1, I've always thought.
  
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Re: White repertoire
Reply #1 - 06/30/09 at 06:36:02
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Oh yeah vs grunfeld play exchange and then Bc4.
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White repertoire
06/30/09 at 06:34:04
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Hi all,
What do people think of this repertoire?  It is inteded as a repertoire for the tactical player who doesn't have time to play 1.e4 or a really sharp 1.d4 repertoire.  It is based on 1.d4 2Nf3 and then 3.c4...  SO I avoid the Henning Schara gambit, the Benko, Benoni, Budapest while still playing interesting positions?!?!?
So:
KID: play Gligoric variation
QID: play Petrosian system
QGD: play Blackburne 1.d4 2.Nf3 3.c4 4.Nc3 5.Bf4 
vs 1...g6 and 1...d6 play 2.e4 and go for 150 attack
vs dutch play 1d4 2. Nc3 and 3 Bg5
vs Benoni, Benko play d5 without c4 and of course if a a6 by black play a4 and Nc3 and develop...
vs QGA play main line I guess?
vs semi slav and slav play Shabalov gambit and main line slav stuff  or play 1,d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 e6 5. Bg5 dxc4 6.e4 b5 7.a4Qb6 8.Bxf6 gxf6 9.Be2 Nd7

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