Dink Heckler wrote on 10/28/09 at 08:19:17:


Karjakin comes to mind. Or Caruana, but one can imagine that he has/could get an Italian passport if needed to circumvent the fee. Sokolov changed back to Bosnia because they found a sponsor that would pay him. 

TalJechin wrote on 10/27/09 at 17:17:52:


In my interpretation it is for official fide tournaments. It won't stop immigration as most of those players will probably immigrate for non chess reasons (and face it, in those countries you should be a rather strong GM to qualify for instance the olympiad team). And after two years they can represent their new home country (or not, as stigma pointed out, foreign titleholders should be quite popular). 

Does it happen often? Perhaps not. I don't know but it does seem preferable to have some arrangement in place. 

The FIDE isn't perhaps the best run organisation (understatement!) but I tend to judge decissions on their own. 

The end of 3.2.2 might also suggest that the heavy fines for late arrival etc also passed, guess we'll know in a few days...


@Schaakhamster Is there really a problem with some players changing federations frequently?? Are there any players actually doing that?

I wonder if the rule is intended to stop migration of titled players from eastern Europe to e.g. Germany, Spain, the US and Israel? But if so, why?


@Dink - is an Elo rated tournament an official FIDE tournament? If so, it affects most of us, sooner or later. And even if these tms are not included now, they could always be added later by a change in the conditions for calculating Elo ratings.

Markovich wrote on 10/27/09 at 14:47:02:

Only if you want to actually change federations and represent France, I suppose? 

Actually an FM living in France who still plays actively would be more popular with organizers with a "USA" than with a "FRA" affiliation, due to the norm requirement that opponents come from at least three different federations. French players should be the easiest ones to find in Provence.

TalJechin wrote on 10/27/09 at 14:01:48:


I suspect we've not heard the last of this - this one will run and run!

It seems like fide will leak the new approved proposals one at a time.

Yesterday, this one came out:
http://www.fide.com/images/stories/news2009/2010_reg_transfers__eligibility.pdf

Which includes:

Set transfer sums for players changing country

FIDE Title/Rating Residence in new Federation for a period between
0 to 12 months      13 to 24 months
GM € 5,000            € 3,500
IM € 2,000             € 1,500
FM 
or +2300 € 1,000   € 750
WGM € 2,000         € 1,500
WIM € 1,000          € 750
WFM +2100 € 500  € 300
Others € 500         € 300


I wonder how they define an Official FIDE Competition - is it only tournaments arranged by FIDE or would it include anything connected to fide like ELO-rated tms?

3. Entries and Eligibility for Participation in Official FIDE Competitions

3.1 The rules in this section on entries for participation in official FIDE competitions and the eligibility of
players to represent a Federation shall apply to all official FIDE competitions at world level, including all
Continental events that are qualifying competitions for World events.

3.2 Entries
3.2.1 All entries for participation in official FIDE individual and team competitions shall be made by the
respective Federations only.

3.2.2 Players with personal right of entry (such as FIDE rating or qualification from another event) or
nominees (such as by the President or Organiser) may, in the absence of an entry by the Federation, enter
himself directly into such competition, provided that the player shall be personally liable for any financial
obligations to FIDE in respect of such entry.

Simply amazing. Is the FIDE trying to fill its coffers?

This year, IM Jovanka Houska was allowed to play in the Norwegian champs, since she is married to a Norwegian and lives with him in Norway. By definition, that probably means the Norwegian champs was an international event. Thus, if these rules had been in place at that point,

1) Out of the 500+ participants, everyone arriving too late would have to pay 500 euros? And that's probably per round they arrive late? Sounds like the Norwegian chess community risks ending up in their own financial crisis.

2) All 500+ participants would have to get permission from the Norwegian chess federation in order to play? Sounds like someone has just been given a lot of overtime work for a process that won't exclude anyone.