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Question: Who will win Nanjing 2009?


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Veselin Topalov 5 (16.7%) Magnus Carlsen 23 (76.7%) Dmitry Jakovenko 0 (0.0%) Teimour Radjabov 1 (3.3%) Peter Leko 1 (3.3%) Wang Yue 0 (0.0%) Total votes: 30 « Created by: TN on: 09/27/09 at 22:19:57 »

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battleangel Ex Member	Re: Nanjing 2009 (Cat. 21) Reply #17 - 10/01/09 at 11:36:32	Post Tools	Print Post
	of course after magnus had 2/2 everyone knew from the beginning magnus was going to win this


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chk God Member Offline a pawn is a pawn Posts: 1063 Location: Athens Joined: 10/26/06 Gender:	Re: Nanjing 2009 (Cat. 21) Reply #16 - 10/01/09 at 09:14:27	Post Tools	Print Post
	Nice Najdorf (Karpov System) going on in Jakovenko-Carlsen, If anyone is interested you can follow it at chessdom (with some -not too dense- analysis in English). I don't think Jakovenko was surprised with Carlsen choosing the Najdorf over the Dragon or the Sveshnikov as it is more or less obvious Carlsen is using some of Kasparov's older repertoire (Kasparov himself told in a recent interview that during the K-K rapid match, he was avoiding using some of the Grunfled stuff, so not to give away Carlsen's preparation for China). Still, Jakovenko chose a not so sharp system in order to avoid theoretical surprises in the Bg5 or Be3 lines (this used to be the typical 'Soviet' approach for dealing with surprises). Myself, I wasn't expecting the 11. ... Nb6-c4 manoeuvre (I prefer Rc8 & then Re8 here in anticipation of an eventual Nd5 / later in the game Carlsen's Rd8 may be slightly exposed to Bb6 tactics), but it seems to have worked just fine..

	"I play honestly and I play to win. If I lose, I take my medicine." - Bobby
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Smyslov_Fan God Member Correspondence fan Offline Progress depends on the unreasonable man. ~GBS Posts: 6902 Joined: 06/15/05	Re: Nanjing 2009 (Cat. 21) Reply #15 - 09/30/09 at 21:51:59	Post Tools	Print Post
	I decided to go ahead and close the poll. Cheers!


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Uruk Senior Member Offline Posts: 351 Joined: 02/03/09	Re: Nanjing 2009 (Cat. 21) Reply #14 - 09/30/09 at 15:03:44	Post Tools	Print Post
	Yes, senseless to keep the poll after the tournament has started.


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Smyslov_Fan God Member Correspondence fan Offline Progress depends on the unreasonable man. ~GBS Posts: 6902 Joined: 06/15/05	Re: Nanjing 2009 (Cat. 21) Reply #13 - 09/30/09 at 14:51:53	Post Tools	Print Post
	Have you noticed that there are more votes for Carlsen now and none for anyone else? Hmmm...


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JEH God Member Offline "Football is like Chess, only without the dice." Posts: 1456 Location: Reading Joined: 09/22/05 Gender:	Re: Nanjing 2009 (Cat. 21) Reply #12 - 09/29/09 at 19:47:29	Post Tools	Print Post
	Carlsen youth & talent + Kasparov coaching & opening DB = mighty force!

	Those who want to go by my perverse footsteps play such pawn structure with fuzzy atypical still strategic orientations Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, stuck in the middlegame with you
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Antillian God Member Offline Brilliance without dazzle! Posts: 1757 Joined: 01/05/03 Gender:	Re: Nanjing 2009 (Cat. 21) Reply #11 - 09/29/09 at 19:12:02	Post Tools	Print Post
	Nice see the Makogonov system making an appearance at this high level. I just hope that Carlsen will not make it a regular weapon, since it will become more popular and KID players will be better prepared for it.

	"Breakthrough results come about by a series of good decisions, diligently executed and accumulated one on top of another." Jim Collins --- Good to Great
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thibdb13 God Member Offline Tal was the best Posts: 974 Location: Mechelen Joined: 01/25/07 Gender:	Re: Nanjing 2009 (Cat. 21) Reply #10 - 09/29/09 at 18:58:08	Post Tools	Print Post
	I hope Topalov will win but now I see how the kid kills the KID, I am afraid it will be mre interesting betting on who will be secund to him.

	Yusupov once said that “The problem with the Dutch Defence is that later in many positions the best move would be ...f5-f7” but he is surely wrong.
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Smyslov_Fan God Member Correspondence fan Offline Progress depends on the unreasonable man. ~GBS Posts: 6902 Joined: 06/15/05	Re: Nanjing 2009 (Cat. 21) Reply #9 - 09/29/09 at 12:49:03	Post Tools	Print Post
	I just glanced at the Carlsen-Topalov game. (I couldn't open the link provided, so I just went to ChessBase.) I'm not normally a fan of 5.h3 and g4 in the KID Classical, but Carlsen made it work beautifully. Topalov was almost unrecognisable in that game! For those who don't think confidence affects playing strength, Carlsen's fast start will be hard to explain.


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TN God Member Offline Posts: 3420 Joined: 11/07/08 Gender:	Re: Nanjing 2009 (Cat. 21) Reply #8 - 09/29/09 at 10:41:09	Post Tools	Print Post
	Round 2 Results: Leko-Radjabov .5-.5 Jakovenko-Wang Yue .5-.5 Carlsen-Topalov 1-0 Annotations to Carlsen's game are available at http://games.chessdom.com/nanjing/carlsen-topalov-2009-live. Standings: Carlsen 2/2 (against the top seed and 3rd seed) Radjabov, Jakovenko, Wang Yue 1/2 (these three are yet to play Carlsen) Leko, Topalov 0.5/2 With a full point lead already after only 2 rounds, Carlsen's chances of tournament victory are looking quite high.

	All our dreams come true if we have the courage to pursue them.
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chk God Member Offline a pawn is a pawn Posts: 1063 Location: Athens Joined: 10/26/06 Gender:	Re: Nanjing 2009 (Cat. 21) Reply #7 - 09/29/09 at 06:59:14	Post Tools	Print Post
	Seth_Xoma wrote on 09/28/09 at 22:25:53: In answer to my post yesterday- the lesson on the Scotch opening seemed to work just fine... Well, thank God I've put a disclaimer at the end of my last post

	"I play honestly and I play to win. If I lose, I take my medicine." - Bobby
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Gerry1970 Senior Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 482 Joined: 02/01/06	Re: Nanjing 2009 (Cat. 21) Reply #6 - 09/29/09 at 03:11:39	Post Tools	Print Post
	Hello: Thought the following comment was interesting: ""The Nanjing games are homework by Garry Kasparov and me," said Magnus Carlsen at the press conference. "Today's game was provided by Garry." Haven't really followed him closely so I am wondering is this a typical comment. Or is this the start of some psychological games prompted by his new trainer? Toodles, Gerry


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TN God Member Offline Posts: 3420 Joined: 11/07/08 Gender:	Re: Nanjing 2009 (Cat. 21) Reply #5 - 09/29/09 at 01:42:45	Post Tools	Print Post
	Round 1 Results: Carlsen-Leko 1-0 Topalov-Jakovenko .5-.5 Wang Yue-Radjabov .5-.5 Round 2 Pairings: Leko-Radjabov Jakovenko-Wang Yue Carlsen-Topalov This should be a very exciting pairing! If I recall correctly, in their last encounter, Carlsen achieved his first win against a 2800+ player using the 11.e4 line of the 6.Bf6 Qf6 7.e3 Anti-Moscow variation, which was covered in either Yearbook 91 or 92. I will probably close the poll after Round 7 or 8, depending on the tournament standings.

	All our dreams come true if we have the courage to pursue them.
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Seth_Xoma God Member Offline FM with 2 IM Norms - (2381) Posts: 558 Location: Lansing Joined: 11/05/04 Gender:	Re: Nanjing 2009 (Cat. 21) Reply #4 - 09/28/09 at 22:25:53	Post Tools	Print Post
	In answer to my post yesterday- the lesson on the Scotch opening seemed to work just fine...


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Smyslov_Fan God Member Correspondence fan Offline Progress depends on the unreasonable man. ~GBS Posts: 6902 Joined: 06/15/05	Re: Nanjing 2009 (Cat. 21) Reply #3 - 09/28/09 at 21:53:08	Post Tools	Print Post
	I'm rooting for Carlsen and Leko, but I voted for Topalov. Topalov is due a victory, and he seems to do best when the attention is focused on another player. This seems like an ideal opportunity for him, as long as he enjoys the local cuisine!


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