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Question: Who will win Nanjing 2009?


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Veselin Topalov 5 (16.7%) Magnus Carlsen 23 (76.7%) Dmitry Jakovenko 0 (0.0%) Teimour Radjabov 1 (3.3%) Peter Leko 1 (3.3%) Wang Yue 0 (0.0%) Total votes: 30 « Created by: TN on: 09/27/09 at 22:19:57 »

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MilenPetrov Senior Member Offline Winnie the Pooh Rules :) Posts: 353 Location: Varna, Bulgaria Joined: 04/03/08 Gender:	Re: Nanjing 2009 (Cat. 21) Reply #62 - 10/06/09 at 20:06:13	Post Tools	Print Post
	I think it is a good news that we have a new face in the top elite, and potential new World Champion, but... Do we think that such a young player and man may have some power against the FIDE system. Do you think that Magnus would be able to chnage something and to put a new order in the chaos... Frankly speaking i doubt... Anyway I like Magnus's play and I am his full supporter


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kylemeister God Member Offline Posts: 4989 Location: USA Joined: 10/24/05	Re: Nanjing 2009 (Cat. 21) Reply #61 - 10/06/09 at 20:00:34	Post Tools	Print Post
	ericmittens wrote on 10/06/09 at 19:33:24: It's not that he's not good enough...but the WC cycle being the way it is he won't have a chance. What would be stopping him from qualifying by rating (or being nominated by the organizers) for the Candidates thing next year, for starters?


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Antillian God Member Offline Brilliance without dazzle! Posts: 1757 Joined: 01/05/03 Gender:	Re: Nanjing 2009 (Cat. 21) Reply #60 - 10/06/09 at 19:36:47	Post Tools	Print Post
	Everyone is getting all excited But, I think we are getting ahead of ourselves here. This is just one tournament. It it way too early to make predictions. I do hope that MC goes on to become the next great thing becuase I think the chess world really does need another dominant world champion in the make of Kasparov. But at this point in time, we do not know yet.

	"Breakthrough results come about by a series of good decisions, diligently executed and accumulated one on top of another." Jim Collins --- Good to Great
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ericmittens Junior Member Offline Molto bene Posts: 86 Location: Ontario, Canada Joined: 06/06/09 Gender:	Re: Nanjing 2009 (Cat. 21) Reply #59 - 10/06/09 at 19:33:24	Post Tools	Print Post
	It's not that he's not good enough...but the WC cycle being the way it is he won't have a chance.


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kylemeister God Member Offline Posts: 4989 Location: USA Joined: 10/24/05	Re: Nanjing 2009 (Cat. 21) Reply #58 - 10/06/09 at 19:28:36	Post Tools	Print Post
	Smyslov_Fan wrote on 10/06/09 at 19:07:29: Yeah, It does seem that Carlsen will be the next K in respect to domination. He still has quite a way to go, and (almost) certainly will not challenge for Kasparov's title of youngest World Champion ever. But he does have a real shot at being one of a very few World Champions before the age of 25. You think Carlsen almost certainly won't become WC challenger within the next ~3.5 years? Hmmm.


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trw YaBB Moderator Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 1414 Joined: 05/06/08 Gender:	Re: Nanjing 2009 (Cat. 21) Reply #57 - 10/06/09 at 19:20:33	Post Tools	Print Post
	rdecredico wrote on 10/02/09 at 14:11:16: gewgaw wrote on 10/02/09 at 13:02:41: This was arguably the greatest achievement in the history of tournament chess. Polgar's "Sack of Rome" is perhaps more impressive. 1989 Yes 8.5/9 as a 2300 FM beating 8 GMs and drawing a GM underdog in all 9 games to finish with a 2900 performance rating.


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Smyslov_Fan God Member Correspondence fan Offline Progress depends on the unreasonable man. ~GBS Posts: 6902 Joined: 06/15/05	Re: Nanjing 2009 (Cat. 21) Reply #56 - 10/06/09 at 19:07:29	Post Tools	Print Post
	Yeah, It does seem that Carlsen will be the next K in respect to domination. He still has quite a way to go, and (almost) certainly will not challenge for Kasparov's title of youngest World Champion ever. But he does have a real shot at being one of a very few World Champions before the age of 25.


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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: Nanjing 2009 (Cat. 21) Reply #55 - 10/06/09 at 13:49:35	Post Tools	Print Post
	I was just checking the FIDE ratings to see was there any chance of the kid going World number 1 after this, but no in fairness to Topalov thats some rating he has there - 2813. The kid will be doing well to catch Anand for number 2 spot, still it seems inevitable now Carlsen is the future of chess and the next dominant power after the 2 K's.


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Antillian God Member Offline Brilliance without dazzle! Posts: 1757 Joined: 01/05/03 Gender:	Re: Nanjing 2009 (Cat. 21) Reply #54 - 10/06/09 at 12:56:55	Post Tools	Print Post
	TalJechin wrote on 10/06/09 at 11:58:31: Another win for MC today, maybe the pattern is that he goes +1 on everybody? Still a chance for him to go 2-0 against Radjabov and Jakovenko. But two draws to finish off is more likley. We shall see.

	"Breakthrough results come about by a series of good decisions, diligently executed and accumulated one on top of another." Jim Collins --- Good to Great
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TalJechin God Member Offline There is no secret ingredient. Posts: 2892 Location: Malmö Joined: 08/12/04 Gender:	Re: Nanjing 2009 (Cat. 21) Reply #53 - 10/06/09 at 11:58:31	Post Tools	Print Post
	Another win for MC today, maybe the pattern is that he goes +1 on everybody?


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TalJechin God Member Offline There is no secret ingredient. Posts: 2892 Location: Malmö Joined: 08/12/04 Gender:	Re: Nanjing 2009 (Cat. 21) Reply #52 - 10/05/09 at 11:15:44	Post Tools	Print Post
	Quote: topalov is white against carlsen, I think Top will try to prove to him that he is still the boss. I think Carlsen trys to play solid against him. He might go for QGD against 1.d4 or e5 against e4, but let's wait and see. Nope, a Svesh it was, topa had a pawn more but it looks like MC had full comp all the way to a draw http://www.chess-pearlspring.com/www/chess_pk/2009/en/xczb.htm


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MNb God Member Offline Rudolf Spielmann forever Posts: 10777 Location: Moengo Joined: 01/05/04 Gender:	Re: Nanjing 2009 (Cat. 21) Reply #51 - 10/05/09 at 10:15:05	Post Tools	Print Post
	Smyslov_Fan wrote on 10/04/09 at 13:30:03: We are all so caught up in this tournament that drawing with Black using the same opening against two of the best players in the world is implicitly a problem area for Carlsen. Wow! The last 30 years or so this only happened to the two big K's - White trying to maintain equality against them playing Black ... indeed.

	The book had the effect good books usually have: it made the stupids more stupid, the intelligent more intelligent and the other thousands of readers remained unchanged. GC Lichtenberg
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Schaakhamster God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 650 Joined: 05/13/08	Re: Nanjing 2009 (Cat. 21) Reply #50 - 10/05/09 at 04:34:24	Post Tools	Print Post
	Smyslov_Fan wrote on 10/04/09 at 13:30:03: TN wrote on 10/04/09 at 11:49:09: It is worth noting that Carlsen's two draws in this tournament have both been on the Black side of the Grunfeld, which incidentally was a problem area for Kasparov in his match against Kramnik. Ok, this, perhaps more than the score is impressive: We are all so caught up in this tournament that drawing with Black using the same opening against two of the best players in the world is implicitly a problem area for Carlsen. Wow! I was kind of thinking the same thing. If Kasparov and Carlsen would think it wasn't adequate Carlsen probably wouln't play it.


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TicklyTim Senior Member Offline can I take that back, please... Posts: 274 Location: England Joined: 05/29/09 Gender:	Re: Nanjing 2009 (Cat. 21) Reply #49 - 10/04/09 at 22:09:26	Post Tools	Print Post
	Quote: topalov is white against carlsen, I think Top will try to prove to him that he is still the boss. I think Carlsen trys to play solid against him. He might go for QGD against 1.d4 or e5 against e4, but let's wait and see. Oops, miss read that as 1.d4 e5 for a second there. Now that would be a turn up!!


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battleangel Ex Member	Re: Nanjing 2009 (Cat. 21) Reply #48 - 10/04/09 at 21:27:41	Post Tools	Print Post
	topalov is white against carlsen, I think Top will try to prove to him that he is still the boss. I think Carlsen trys to play solid against him. He might go for QGD against 1.d4 or e5 against e4, but let's wait and see.


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