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Re: (W&B) QID w/ 4.g3 books/CBFTs/videos etc
Reply #13 - 10/21/09 at 11:22:27
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LeeRoth wrote on 10/16/09 at 20:51:18:
I used to play the g3 LeeRoth0 hoping for the Polugaevsky Gambit:  1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 Be7 6.0-0 0-0 7.d5 exd5 8.Nh4.

But I never had a good answer to 4..Ba6.  What do you propose against that?


I also play the Polugaevsky Gambit. 
Haven't gotten a chance yet but I want to play this modern d5 gambit against Ba6 (named 21st Century Gambit or whatever). It's 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 b6 4. g3 Ba6 5. Qc2 Bb7 6. Bg2 c5 7. d5 exd5 8. cxd5 Nxd5.
Maybe you should look into that, too.
  
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Reply #12 - 10/21/09 at 08:06:17
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Thanks for the answers about the QID.
Now tell me about the latter position (see diagram "2" above), 
after 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.g3 b6 4.Bg2 Bb7, 
when white avoids the move d2-d4
. (Playing d2-d3, for example.)
What book(s) should I look for? (I encounter the position only as Black.)
  

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Re: (W&B) QID w/ 4.g3 books/CBFTs/videos etc
Reply #11 - 10/19/09 at 09:32:01
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HoemberChess wrote on 10/16/09 at 22:14:56:
Willempie wrote on 10/16/09 at 19:33:36:
Wells' qid book covers it quite well, (both Ba6 and Bb6 and some sidelines) and should be enough to get you more than started.


You mean Chess Explained: The Queen's Indian by Peter Wells, don't you?

What about Avrukh's 1.d4-repertoire books? (Any mention of the Willempie2?)

Yep that's the one, a very decent book even for me. I never got along with the QID, but now I at least know why Grin
  

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Re: (W&B) QID w/ 4.g3 books/CBFTs/videos etc
Reply #10 - 10/17/09 at 11:58:23
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I completely forgot about Well's book even i have it and it is on my table because i used it as a reference for one of my games.
May be in addition you may take a look at Chessbase CD How to play QID and also at Aagaard's DVD - Easy way QID.
There is one more book - i think it was authored by Geller & co and was something like Understanding QID.

P.S. Just found the title - Soltis, Andy, Edmar Mednis, Raymond Keene, and John Grefe. "Understanding the Queen's Indian Defense." Great Neck, New York: R.H.M. Press, 1981. It is rather old but I still think you will get good ideas from it.
  
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Reply #9 - 10/16/09 at 23:36:19
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TicklyTim wrote on 10/16/09 at 22:27:06:
HoemberChess wrote on 10/16/09 at 22:14:56:

What about Avrukh's 1.d4-repertoire books? (Any mention of the TLunn3?)


I think that would be the Catalan.


Oh, now I see. Cheesy (1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. g3). I have never used this move-order--even on the rare occasions when I opted for the Catalan, I preferred 2.Nf3 e6 3.c4 d5 4.g3)

  

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Re: (W&B) QID w/ 4.g3 books/CBFTs/videos etc
Reply #8 - 10/16/09 at 22:27:06
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HoemberChess wrote on 10/16/09 at 22:14:56:

What about Avrukh's 1.d4-repertoire books? (Any mention of the Hoember5?)


I think that would be the Catalan.
  
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Re: (W&B) QID w/ 4.g3 books/CBFTs/videos etc
Reply #7 - 10/16/09 at 22:14:56
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Willempie wrote on 10/16/09 at 19:33:36:
Wells' qid book covers it quite well, (both Ba6 and Bb6 and some sidelines) and should be enough to get you more than started.


You mean Chess Explained: The Queen's Indian by Peter Wells, don't you?

What about Avrukh's 1.d4-repertoire books? (Any mention of the QID?)
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Re: (W&B) QID w/ 4.g3 books/CBFTs/videos etc
Reply #6 - 10/16/09 at 21:59:45
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kylemeister wrote on 10/16/09 at 21:13:47:
I suppose the opposite of the Polugaevsky is the line advocated some time ago by Mednis in his book "From the Opening Into the Endgame":  7. Nc3 Ne4 8. Nxe4 Bxe4 9. Ne1.


Also recommended in "A Strategic Opening Repertoire" Donaldson & Hansen, 2007.
And the "Well's book" is in the Chess Explained series (by Gambit).
  
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Reply #5 - 10/16/09 at 21:13:47
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I suppose the opposite of the Polugaevsky is the line advocated some time ago by Mednis in his book "From the Opening Into the Endgame":  7. Nc3 Ne4 8. Nxe4 Bxe4 9. Ne1.
  
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Reply #4 - 10/16/09 at 20:51:18
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I used to play the g3 QID hoping for the Polugaevsky Gambit:  1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 Be7 6.0-0 0-0 7.d5 exd5 8.Nh4.

But I never had a good answer to 4..Ba6.  What do you propose against that?
  
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Reply #3 - 10/16/09 at 19:33:36
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Wells' qid book covers it quite well, (both Ba6 and Bb6 and some sidelines) and should be enough to get you more than started.
  

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Re: (W&B) QID w/ 4.g3 books/CBFTs/videos etc
Reply #2 - 10/16/09 at 18:15:23
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Some titles which I can mention are:
1) Starting Out - Queens Indian - Emms - Everyman, 2004
2) The Queens Indian - Yrjola & Tell - Gambit Publications
3) Play the QID - Greet - Everyman, 2009
4) Queens Indian Defence - Jacob Aagaard - Everyman, 2002
  
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Re: (W&B) QID w/ 4.g3 books/CBFTs/videos etc
Reply #1 - 10/16/09 at 16:44:01
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Please, at least, list a few books for White with the 4.g3 variation.
  

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(W&B) QID w/ 4.g3 books/CBFTs/videos etc
10/09/09 at 17:15:41
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Question 1) 
I am looking for books on the Queen's Indian Defense with 4.g3 from White's perspective. I intend to play this as White but I am very new to the QID, I have not played it with either color. 
(I don't like the look (and type of middle-game) of 4.a3, the Petrosian Variation, while 4.e3 is inconsistent with my 4.d5 versus 3..c5, the Modern Benoni, that's why I want to play this "classical", 4.g3 form of the QID as White.)
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Question 2) 
Also I am looking for books for Black, because I intend to take up the 4.g3 Bb7 variation. (Which, in my games, can arise only after the specific move-order, 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.g3 b6 4.Bg2 Bb7 with d2-d4 coming later, for otherwise, after 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3, I defend the Bogo-Indian rather than the QID.)
(Some years ago I saw a chesslecture.com video by David Vigorito on the subject, that's where I got the tip)
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