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Re: good blitz openings for black
Reply #15 - 12/03/09 at 23:55:28
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Personally, I'd stay away from the Accelerated Dragon, especially in blitz.  As someone else pointed out, it seems that thousands of young players know the lines by heart.   

Get them out of their comfort zone and play something slightly baroque but that looks almost normal.

As Black, that may be the Hecht French or a Boleslavsky Sicilian (almost nobody plays that as their main line anymore.) As white, the Ponziani scored well for me, but only as a surprise weapon.

The Scandinavian fits nicely into this category except that it's currently very fashionable.
  
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Re: good blitz openings for black
Reply #14 - 12/03/09 at 11:16:57
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I'm really a bad blitz player. But my results got far better when I started to play simple op[ening systems.

The same is true for me actually (at least if I play white) 
The scandinavian with Qd6,g6 is a safe choice, however if white plays something with Nb5 and c4 black has little perspectives and white a position that is easy to play. Ok, the question is how often you get Nb5 and c4 against 2200+ opponents in blitz. I do not know.
The accelerated dragon is an option if I would knew what to do against the Maroczy bind... I had a look at this Shahade video but Im not too impressed by the variations itself. 

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Learning an opening line is never a waste of time, even if you never will play it. It widens your horizon Smiley




  
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Re: good blitz openings for black
Reply #13 - 11/29/09 at 22:21:53
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I chose not to waste my time preparing secondary openings for blitz, I would already be glad if I could play well only one opening ...
  
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Re: good blitz openings for black
Reply #12 - 11/28/09 at 16:00:29
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Bowen wrote on 11/28/09 at 15:55:25:


Hey Holbox, I love the QGD, Lasker Var. as Black as well. I prepared it a year ago, played 28 games, and, sadly, only had one chance to use it, but it worked well against an IM!


Sad but true!! Difficult to put your weapons on!
  

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Re: good blitz openings for black
Reply #11 - 11/28/09 at 15:55:25
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Chigorin Defence as Black against 1.d4 d5, 2. c4 Nc6!

There is also the argument that playing your regular openings in blitz chess will help make you a better all around player, learn and reinforce pattern recognition, etc.

Hey Holbox, I love the QGD, Lasker Var. as Black as well. I prepared it a year ago, played 28 games, and, sadly, only had one chance to use it, but it worked well against an IM!
  
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Re: good blitz openings for black
Reply #10 - 11/28/09 at 15:40:55
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I'm really a bad blitz player. But my results got far better when I started to play simple opening systems. 

White:
Sokolsky Opening

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QGD-Lasker Variation (terrific weapon!!)
Qd6-Scandinavian with a quick g6 



  

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Re: good blitz openings for black
Reply #9 - 11/28/09 at 14:21:01
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I have won MANY thousand bulletgames with the Caro-Kann

Bullet is something different, I was rather talking about classical OTB blitz.

Also what do you play in slow games vs 1.e4 and 1.d4, just wondering and curious!!

Against d4, I go for the meran, but there I avoid the sharpest lines.

Against e4 I already tried many openings, a full hand of sicilians, 3 different ruy lopez defences but I also tried the CK and the french.
At the moment my main weapon is the berlin defence, but its nothing for blitz (at least for me). Black must be careful (with long time control no problem) and white can play (at least in blitz) what he wants (and this quickly Smiley ).

So basically Im searching for a blitz opening (after 1.e4) that is not just easier to play for white (this saves important time). On the other hand it shoudnt be too risky like the dragon for example.

  
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Re: good blitz openings for black
Reply #8 - 11/28/09 at 05:56:46
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endali wrote on 11/27/09 at 23:17:38:
note that greg shahade is a monster in the accelerated dragon, and has a very tight repertoire. he knows it very well, but even he has admitted in his videos - it's an opening in which if you make one slip-up or oversight, you're dead meat. there are plenty of examples in his videos of him getting blown away by someone rated 200-300 pts less than him because of one second-best move in the opening.


The two statements I highlighted don't fit together. I haven't seen his videos, but I honestly thought White was the one who had the most traps to fall into early on in the Accelerated Dragon, and that it's a very solid Sicilian precisely because one inaccuracy by Black is often not not fatal. He gets to develop his pieces fairly quickly compared to other Sicilians, after all. This was also Silman's argument when he recommended it as the prefect blitz opening.

Could you give examples of those second-best moves by the very knowledgable Shahade?
  

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Re: good blitz openings for black
Reply #7 - 11/27/09 at 23:17:38
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note that greg shahade is a monster in the accelerated dragon, and has a very tight repertoire. he knows it very well, but even he has admitted in his videos - it's an opening in which if you make one slip-up or oversight, you're dead meat. there are plenty of examples in his videos of him getting blown away by someone rated 200-300 pts less than him because of one second-best move in the opening.
  
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Re: good blitz openings for black
Reply #6 - 11/26/09 at 07:22:24
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I've found defences that encourage White to take a big space advantage and maintain/defend it work even better in blitz than in long games. (maybe this says more about my playing style than about blitz though...) 

A space advantage that could eventually squeeze Black to death with accurate, prophylactic play controlling all pawn breaks and counterattacks, is much harder to manage with little time. So:

Against 1.e4:

- The French
- The Alekhine
- The Modern
- The Accelerated Dragon
- The Kan

Against 1.d4:

- The English Defence
- The Benkö Gambit
- The Grünfeld

etc.

The French and English Defence fit together repertoire-wise of course (1...e6 against everything); a useful addition could be the Blumenfeld for 1.d4 e6 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.c4 (3...c5 4.d5 b5!?) which is stylistically different but gives Black traps and attacking chances.

After space, who is more likely to get attacking chances would be my second consideration. The initiative is extremely important in blitz! So stuff like the Marshall Gambit, The Möller/Arkhangel and the Albin should be interesting. In the end it depends on the level of play and the opponent's style and preparation too of course.
  

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Re: good blitz openings for black
Reply #5 - 11/26/09 at 05:50:33
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Strategy_Rules wrote on 11/25/09 at 16:06:08:
Hi,

I am searching for some good blitz openings, especially for black after 1.e4. 
The reason is easy: I perform horrible in blitz with black... (but for unknown reasons I like to play blitz  Cheesy )
Shouldnt I be able to beat 2200-players with black in blitz (my FIDE ELO is roughly 2365) ?  Smiley




The best openings for blitz vary from person to person and opponent to opponent. The best blitz opening is:

a) One you are familiar with.
b) One you have some experience with.
c) One your opponent is either not familiar with or scores poorly against (there is usually a correlation between the two). 

So if you are an expert in the Petroff and your opponent doesn't know the theory very well as White, go for it, to give one example. On the other hand, against another opponent something obscure such as 1...b6 could give you an advantage out of the opening against the right opponent. One thing I will stress is that the best blitz players have an exceptionally broad repertoire, in that they can play almost any opening. 

If I had to recommend one opening, I'd advocate the Modern because it's fairly easy to become familiar with it, you will get a lot of experience with it very quickly because White cannot avoid it, and most of your opponents will either be unfamiliar with the nuances of the opening or score poorly against it.
  

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Re: good blitz openings for black
Reply #4 - 11/26/09 at 04:48:21
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How about the Gurgenidze line, with c6, g6, Bh6?  It's baroque, sharp, and bound to catch quite a few scalps.

Of course, you can't rely on anything like that for long-term success.

Or you could just play a scaled-down version of your main opening repertoire and throw in a few obscure lines at random.
  
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Re: good blitz openings for black
Reply #3 - 11/26/09 at 03:23:13
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You can see videos of Greg Shahade(curtains) using the Accelerated Dragon to get a high blitz rating on ICC on www.chessvideos.tv.
  
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Re: good blitz openings for black
Reply #2 - 11/26/09 at 02:12:56
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I remember Jeremy SIlman recommending the Benko Gambit and Accelerated Dragon!!!  But at your level these may not be good!  The reason he recommends Benko is the ease of play rooks on a8, b8 fianchetto bishop move queen easy!!   
Now with the acclerated Dragon there are a lot of tricks he said making it good for blitz.  Though at your level you may get a lot of binds.  SO you have to wait patiently...  I think though any opening is good if you know it well.  Knowing the opening well will allow you to set "it" up quickly.  At your level I wouldn't touch the Latvian for example.  I would choose main lines and know them well so you can reply quickly!!!
my 2 cents probably stronger players like Markovic or TN can really answer the question better!
ALso what do you play in slow games vs 1.e4 and 1.d4, just wondering and curious!!
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Re: good blitz openings for black
Reply #1 - 11/26/09 at 01:39:53
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I think the Caro-Kann is superb here. Its very practical.You play it safe and especially if you get ahead in time. Your oponent is likely to start playing too ambitiously. Its perfect to play the Caro-Kann if your oponent is tooo ambitious.

I have won MANY thousand bulletgames with the Caro-Kann. But now I play the Najdorf.
  

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