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Magnus Carlsen    
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Luke McShane    
  0 (0.0%)
David Howell    
  0 (0.0%)
Hikaru Nakamura    
  3 (15.0%)
Ni Hua    
  0 (0.0%)
Michael Adams    
  1 (5.0%)
Nigel Short    
  0 (0.0%)
Vladimir Kramnik    
  4 (20.0%)




Total votes: 20
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Reply #29 - 12/16/09 at 15:31:48
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TalJechin wrote on 12/16/09 at 15:07:02:
Isn't that quote from Alias not SF?

Anyway, I miss Anand far more than topalov, and if topa is still holding a grudge against Kramnik he should get over it and publicly apologize to Vlad - and then he might be able to play good chess again.

It seems that this Anand - topalov match has destroyed their playing schedule this season. And if it's finally played in April - how much will it matter who wins when the next world championship will be soon to start?


With the trackrecord of FIDE in organising these matches the winner will have some time to savour his tittle.   

  
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Reply #28 - 12/16/09 at 15:07:02
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Isn't that quote from Alias not SF?

Anyway, I miss Anand far more than topalov, and if topa is still holding a grudge against Kramnik he should get over it and publicly apologize to Vlad - and then he might be able to play good chess again.

It seems that this Anand - topalov match has destroyed their playing schedule this season. And if it's finally played in April - how much will it matter who wins when the next world championship will be soon to start?
  
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Re: London Chess Classic
Reply #27 - 12/16/09 at 14:47:27
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I wonder if this is how Wittgenstein felt when he said "that is not what I meant at all!"

I was quoted correctly, but then the comments about what I said had  no bearing on my quote!

My suggestion that we are not really missing Topalov is not a comment on his behavior or character, or even the brilliance of his play.  Rather, I was trying to suggest that he needs this period in order to create the great games that we remember him for.

Topalov has had periods of greatness, but those have usually been interspersed with longer periods where he doesn't exactly shine at his brightest.  As I said earlier, he will be under tremendous pressure to perform when he does return, and I expect him either to really impress everyone or fall rather flat. That is, flat for someone who is currently #1 in the world.  (I know, Carlsen will be #1 but he isn't yet.)

  
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Re: London Chess Classic
Reply #26 - 12/16/09 at 09:52:17
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 12/16/09 at 04:36:26:
I miss Topalov whenever is not participating in these tournaments.

So do I, but not because of his behaviour.
  

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Reply #25 - 12/16/09 at 07:52:00
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Alias wrote on 12/16/09 at 07:39:07:
Schaakhamster wrote on 12/16/09 at 05:23:52:
Smyslov_Fan wrote on 12/16/09 at 04:36:26:
I wonder how much we should miss Topalov.  When Topalov does reappear, he will have so much pressure to perform that he will either exceed all expectations or he will tumble out of the top 5, perhaps even out of the top 10.

I don't really see much of a middle ground for him.

By the way, apart from the Tal Memorial, Anand hasn't played much either, has he?

So while Topalov's absence will be missed by the Jeff Sonas' of the world, I don't really think the chess public is missing much.  That is presuming that Topalov starts playing in time for Linares and his match against Anand.  (When is that again?)


I wouldn't count him out yet. And lets be honest: the guy might not be very likeable he has given us some great chess the last few years. I wouldn't mind if he continued this the next fews years  Cheesy



I miss Topalov whenever is not participating in these tournaments. He very often plays very exciting games. I always enjoy his game notes in NiC magazine. Looking back at following top games and tournaments on-line, two of the best moments for me were Topalov's performance in San Luis 2005 and Kasparov-Topalov 1999. The latter was CRAZY. Admittedly, it was Kasparov's game, rather than Topalov's.

I've bought the books in the Everyman "Chess Secrets" series. Topalov is included in the "Power Play" volume. Haven't read it yet, though.


Topalov-Kramnik last year was also crazy. I mean, such a highly anticipated game and then that. 
  
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Re: London Chess Classic
Reply #24 - 12/16/09 at 07:39:07
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Schaakhamster wrote on 12/16/09 at 05:23:52:
Smyslov_Fan wrote on 12/16/09 at 04:36:26:
I wonder how much we should miss Topalov.  When Topalov does reappear, he will have so much pressure to perform that he will either exceed all expectations or he will tumble out of the top 5, perhaps even out of the top 10.

I don't really see much of a middle ground for him.

By the way, apart from the Tal Memorial, Anand hasn't played much either, has he?

So while Topalov's absence will be missed by the Jeff Sonas' of the world, I don't really think the chess public is missing much.  That is presuming that Topalov starts playing in time for Linares and his match against Anand.  (When is that again?)


I wouldn't count him out yet. And lets be honest: the guy might not be very likeable he has given us some great chess the last few years. I wouldn't mind if he continued this the next fews years  Cheesy



I miss Topalov whenever is not participating in these tournaments. He very often plays very exciting games. I always enjoy his game notes in NiC magazine. Looking back at following top games and tournaments on-line, two of the best moments for me were Topalov's performance in San Luis 2005 and Kasparov-Topalov 1999. The latter was CRAZY. Admittedly, it was Kasparov's game, rather than Topalov's.

I've bought the books in the Everyman "Chess Secrets" series. Topalov is included in the "Power Play" volume. Haven't read it yet, though.
  

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Reply #23 - 12/16/09 at 05:23:52
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 12/16/09 at 04:36:26:
I wonder how much we should miss Topalov.  When Topalov does reappear, he will have so much pressure to perform that he will either exceed all expectations or he will tumble out of the top 5, perhaps even out of the top 10.

I don't really see much of a middle ground for him.

By the way, apart from the Tal Memorial, Anand hasn't played much either, has he?

So while Topalov's absence will be missed by the Jeff Sonas' of the world, I don't really think the chess public is missing much.  That is presuming that Topalov starts playing in time for Linares and his match against Anand.  (When is that again?)


I wouldn't count him out yet. And lets be honest: the guy might not be very likeable he has given us some great chess the last few years. I wouldn't mind if he continued this the next fews years  Cheesy

  
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Reply #22 - 12/16/09 at 05:19:26
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Antillian wrote on 12/16/09 at 02:09:30:
So Carlsen wins, but Kramnik 2.0 fought all the way. I think we are in for some exciting chess in the next few months. I look forward to Corus 2010 next month, when Carlsen and Kramnik will face off again and willl be joined by Anand. It is a shame that Topalov seems not to be playing in supertournaments where Kramnik is present.


They played last year in Corus and rapid in Switzerland. I don't really think they are dodging each other but Topalov really seems to focus on the WC-match.
  
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Re: London Chess Classic
Reply #21 - 12/16/09 at 04:36:26
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I wonder how much we should miss Topalov.  When Topalov does reappear, he will have so much pressure to perform that he will either exceed all expectations or he will tumble out of the top 5, perhaps even out of the top 10.

I don't really see much of a middle ground for him.

By the way, apart from the Tal Memorial, Anand hasn't played much either, has he?

So while Topalov's absence will be missed by the Jeff Sonas' of the world, I don't really think the chess public is missing much.  That is presuming that Topalov starts playing in time for Linares and his match against Anand.  (When is that again?)
  
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Reply #20 - 12/16/09 at 02:09:30
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So Carlsen wins, but Kramnik 2.0 fought all the way. I think we are in for some exciting chess in the next few months. I look forward to Corus 2010 next month, when Carlsen and Kramnik will face off again and willl be joined by Anand. It is a shame that Topalov seems not to be playing in supertournaments where Kramnik is present.
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Reply #19 - 12/15/09 at 12:16:47
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Well we have a Dragon and a Ragozin on board in the two key games. Should be fun today.
  

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Reply #18 - 12/15/09 at 11:26:56
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Mickey Adams missed a brilliancy yesterday - nonetheless he played very well against Carlsen. Kramnikplayed very convincinglyagainst Short- what was nigel doing playing 4..bb4 when Vladimir has just started to play it himself !!
  
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Reply #17 - 12/15/09 at 10:59:53
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Antillian wrote on 12/14/09 at 20:56:03:
Carlsen may have had a narrow escape today. With Kramnik's win today, only one point now separates the two favorites. The battle for first place is still open going into the last round tomorrow. With both Carlsen and Kramnik having Black against Short and Nakamura respectively, the fate of the former two  depends a lot on if the latter two will want to fight it out in the last round.


Neither Short nor Nakamura are having a good tournament. It will depend on their mood: damage control or save the tournament with a big upset. 

I'm a bit disappointed by Nakamura. I would like to know if he could be a contender but I have the impression that he can't make the mental switch to top chess where instead of 100% commitment 120% is needed. 
  
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Re: London Chess Classic
Reply #16 - 12/15/09 at 05:36:43
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Antillian wrote on 12/14/09 at 20:56:03:
Carlsen may have had a narrow escape today.


Indeed, 25... dxe3! 26. Be2 Re5! seems to give Black a great attack.

Looks like a great finish tomorrow as Kramnik will surely try to win the tournament, if given the slightest chance.
  
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Reply #15 - 12/14/09 at 20:56:03
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Carlsen may have had a narrow escape today. With Kramnik's win today, only one point now separates the two favorites. The battle for first place is still open going into the last round tomorrow. With both Carlsen and Kramnik having Black against Short and Nakamura respectively, the fate of the former two  depends a lot on if the latter two will want to fight it out in the last round.
  

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