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Re: Chesspub team at ICCF 2010-
Reply #20 - 02/24/10 at 18:50:40
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ArKheiN wrote on 02/24/10 at 18:35:46:
[...] (I like the Traxler very much), I would not be confident to play it in serious games because of Bxf7. In fact I have the White side of that game and I played Bxf7 myself

In mid-2007, when I studied the Traxler ( http://www.chesscafe.com/text/kaiss23.pdf ), I liked Black's chances after 5.Bxf7+, but Reuben Fine's 5.d4! was strong and sufficient for a solid +=. But it's well possible that theory has changed since then, it's a difficult opening.
  
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Re: Chesspub team at ICCF 2010-
Reply #19 - 02/24/10 at 18:35:46
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Markovich: even me, a "no fear fighter", (I like the Traxler very much), I would not be confident to play it in serious games because of Bxf7. In fact I have the White side of that game and I played Bxf7 myself but with an untested idea (but now I know the way I played Bxf7 is not the strongest), and against Krakovsky I have played 2 Evans gambit as White and a Schliemann as Black. 

You may be wondering where is my BDG, (I have played many games with that in corr with quite good success) but in my recent games I am playing 1.e4 to see... In OTB I also came back to 1.e4.
  
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Re: Chesspub team at ICCF 2010-
Reply #18 - 02/24/10 at 18:24:25
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It works by server.  It may be a year or so before we play another match.  When we do, there should be a more formal process for deciding who represents us.  Or perhaps Tony would care to field two teams.  We're playing on his nickel, you see.

If only four people can play, we should go by Elo, I suppose.  How various Elos compare is a vexed question, but we should have some sort of objective selection process.

@Arkhein:  Traxler?  You are an adventuresome fellow.  I don't know if it would do to let a Traxler player represent ChessPub!  In this event, I'm playing the Sicilian Scheveningen (2...e6 and 5...d6) against 1.e4, Modern Benoni (2...c5 version) versus 1.d4, 1...c5 versus 1.Nf3 and 1.c4.
  

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Reply #17 - 02/24/10 at 18:17:39
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I would also really like to play for ChessPub on ICCF if it's possible at any time.  Grin
  
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Re: Chesspub team at ICCF 2010-
Reply #16 - 02/24/10 at 18:10:39
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Hello Markovich, I know 2 of your opponents! I am playing a Traxler as White against Sanner (so I am better for the moment but maybe not sufficient to win) and I won every games in about equal positions against Krakovsky because he forfeited every games in the server I am playing Sad

I would have been happy to represent the chesspub team. Does it work by mail or by server? Was it free for the players? I want to try ICCF one day.

Good luck for the team!
  
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Reply #15 - 02/24/10 at 17:26:39
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oh so lucki. But was there any lucky charms for breakfast?  Smiley
  
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Reply #14 - 02/24/10 at 12:02:25
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A draw against Mr. Lucky Grin
Not bad Smiley
  

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Reply #13 - 02/24/10 at 11:40:49
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Our first result is in: MNb drew against an opponent rated some 500 points higher than him in a game where he was never in trouble:

White: MNb (Chesspublishing)
Black: Stanislaw Lucki (KTS Krakov)
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e3 O-O 5.Bd3 d5 6.a3 Bxc3+ 7.bxc3 dxc4 8.Bxc4 c5 9.Nf3 Qc7 10.Ba2 Bd7 11.O-O Rd8 12.Bb2 Bc6 13.Ne5 h6 14.f3 Nbd7 15.Nxc6 Qxc6 16.c4 cxd4 17.exd4 Rac8 18.Qe2 Qa6 19.Rac1 Nb6 20.Rc2 Na4 21.Ba1 Nb6 22.Bb2 Na4

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Re: Chesspub team at ICCF 2010-
Reply #12 - 01/11/10 at 10:52:29
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TalJechin wrote on 01/11/10 at 10:09:47:
Alias wrote on 01/11/10 at 08:02:36:
I haven't played CC in a long time. I have mixed feelings about it. The games are almost always interesting, but take much time and effort. To be succesful you have to work much throughout the game. In some of my wins, I've noticed that my opponents lost interest in the game/tournament and played significantly weaker moves halfway through the game. In my experience, I would say that sharp play is rewarding. In most of my wins, I've played much sharper than my OTB style. When trying to play positionally, draws have mostly been the outcome.

CC is an excellent opportunity to try out openings and specific lines. Before the games start, have a plan of set of openings. As Markovich pointed out, be critical of book lines and database games. They can almost always be improved upon. I changed my view on opening books after having played CC for a while. 

Hmm. Maybe I start playing CC again...

Anyway, good luck in the tournament!


Interesting, I would've assumed that the sharper the play the bigger chance of an early burnout to a draw. But looking thru some games of my opponents, it does seem that the open sicilian and especially the Najdorf is going strong in corr as well.

What kind of info is generally missing or wrong in chess books?


It's nearly impossible to completely analyse all positions of any opening book in great length. I would say that authors tend to trust strong players and the first assesments of computers a bit too much. I usually try out my ideas with a computer and often the assesment of the program changes quite much as you go along a line, the famous horizon effect. Of course, my insticts are often wrong, but occasionally the verdict of a line can be changed from equal to clearly advantageous. 

This is why opening books by strong players who actually play the opening are the best. They have developed a feeling for the opening and know when to trust games and suggested computer lines.

I also suggest talking to your team mates (or other chess friends) about the games. It's usually very rewarding to analyse games (not only openings) with other players. CC is much about finding the right plan and execute it. With more players on your side, your more likely to find the best paths forward.
  

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Re: Chesspub team at ICCF 2010-
Reply #11 - 01/11/10 at 10:09:47
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Alias wrote on 01/11/10 at 08:02:36:
I haven't played CC in a long time. I have mixed feelings about it. The games are almost always interesting, but take much time and effort. To be succesful you have to work much throughout the game. In some of my wins, I've noticed that my opponents lost interest in the game/tournament and played significantly weaker moves halfway through the game. In my experience, I would say that sharp play is rewarding. In most of my wins, I've played much sharper than my OTB style. When trying to play positionally, draws have mostly been the outcome.

CC is an excellent opportunity to try out openings and specific lines. Before the games start, have a plan of set of openings. As Markovich pointed out, be critical of book lines and database games. They can almost always be improved upon. I changed my view on opening books after having played CC for a while. 

Hmm. Maybe I start playing CC again...

Anyway, good luck in the tournament!


Interesting, I would've assumed that the sharper the play the bigger chance of an early burnout to a draw. But looking thru some games of my opponents, it does seem that the open sicilian and especially the Najdorf is going strong in corr as well.

What kind of info is generally missing or wrong in chess books?
  
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Reply #10 - 01/11/10 at 09:37:44
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Reply #9 - 01/11/10 at 08:02:36
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I haven't played CC in a long time. I have mixed feelings about it. The games are almost always interesting, but take much time and effort. To be succesful you have to work much throughout the game. In some of my wins, I've noticed that my opponents lost interest in the game/tournament and played significantly weaker moves halfway through the game. In my experience, I would say that sharp play is rewarding. In most of my wins, I've played much sharper than my OTB style. When trying to play positionally, draws have mostly been the outcome.

CC is an excellent opportunity to try out openings and specific lines. Before the games start, have a plan of set of openings. As Markovich pointed out, be critical of book lines and database games. They can almost always be improved upon. I changed my view on opening books after having played CC for a while. 

Hmm. Maybe I start playing CC again...

Anyway, good luck in the tournament!
  

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Reply #8 - 01/10/10 at 11:50:36
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Whoa! I certainly will need that, being one of the three lowest seeds. Half of my opponents are rated 150 points higher or more; one guy has a friggin' 2452.
Should be fun.
  

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Re: Chesspub team at ICCF 2010-
Reply #7 - 01/09/10 at 22:13:31
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Markovich wrote on 01/09/10 at 21:38:09:
TalJechin wrote on 01/09/10 at 10:53:57:
Just saw my list of opponents, and at least in my case I guess I should be happy with the draw as I get white against the four top rated. Other than that, I can only say that this, my first corr tournament / games, will hopefully be an interesting experience. As for goals, I suppose I should be satisfied if get close to 50%.

Any tips for a newbie at corr? And how does the other team members: Markovich, HGman & MNb feel about your list of opponents?


It's an odd mix for me, with mostly 2200+'s and four very strong opponents (IM, SM, 2*GM).  My best advice is be extremely careful you have the right position before you move; don't trust your books; and don't trust your chess engine.  Your better opponents will put in an enormous amount of time on their moves, and you must do the same.  Expect to play in ending in almost all your games.

Apart from that you have like 12 games at the same time and often ones with similar positions. It is easy to mix them up.

In any case my best results were in the line I worked most on (PP Najdorf with 2 wins and one draw as black), but the games I lost had relatively simple positions (against weaker opposition than in the PP Najdorf to make matters worse), where it is easy to move too quickly.

In any case good luck to all Cool
  

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Reply #6 - 01/09/10 at 22:04:15
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Go team Chesspub!

Good luck all and keep us posted.
  

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