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Carlsen    
  22 (44.9%)
Anand    
  4 (8.2%)
Kramnik    
  9 (18.4%)
Ivanchuk    
  4 (8.2%)
Leko    
  1 (2.0%)
Shirov    
  1 (2.0%)
Karjakin    
  2 (4.1%)
Dominguez    
  0 (0.0%)
Nakamura    
  5 (10.2%)
Other    
  1 (2.0%)




Total votes: 49
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Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll
Reply #146 - 01/27/10 at 01:14:22
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I was about to get excited for Karjakin's chances now that he's tied for third and only a point out of first place. 

But, 

He has a murderer's row of opponents in his last  rounds:

Carlsen, Ivanchuk, Anand, Shirov and Kramnik.   

He can still win the tournament, but it would take an amazing performance.
  
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Reply #145 - 01/26/10 at 23:04:58
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You're right! I missed those two.

I may have missed others, but not many.
  
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Reply #144 - 01/26/10 at 23:00:00
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Kramnik also lost two consecutive games against Kamsky quarter final candidate tournament PCA 1994.
in fact Kamsky won this match with 4.5-1.5
(3 wins ; 3 draws).
  
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Reply #143 - 01/26/10 at 19:18:14
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I had stated elsewhere that I wanted to wait to see how Nakamura handles losing in a top-flight tnmt before I considered him a super-GM.  

It looks like I'm going to have to wait another tournament (or two or....) before I accept him as one of the top ten players in the world.

He's an excellent player with an excellent future, but he still has some serious weaknesses to overcome.  One will be a more sophisticated opening repertoire and another will be to improve his fighting spirit. 

(The second weakness had been suggested before when Nakamura declined invitations to elite tournaments in the past, but showed itself in a different form when he suffered his second consecutive loss.)

How many times has Kramnik suffered consecutive losses since, say, Carlsen was born?

I just ran a cursory check on Kramnik's games from late 1989-2009.  I didn't include any blitz/blindfold/simul events and I only counted consecutive losses in the same tournament.  I came up with:

Linares 1994: Losses to Karpov and Shirov
Siemens 1999: Losses to Anand and Kasparov
World Ch. Knockout 1999: Losses to Adams (rapid stage)
Sophia 2005: Losses to Ponomariov and Anand

Overall, this is a very impressive and short list!
  
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Reply #142 - 01/26/10 at 18:58:03
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Everybody is debating Nakamura vs Carlsen and then comes along Kramnik and crushes them both. The boy wonders will get their shot but they will have to wait a while until Kramnik fades away. Corus is highly entertaining this year  Grin
  
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Reply #141 - 01/26/10 at 18:19:24
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Kramnik's "PIRC ALERT" interview has been posted on chess.fm, titled, Soundbite: Kramnik's Prep.  Enjoy.

http://www.chessclub.com/activities/Corus10player.html

katar wrote on 01/21/10 at 19:01:14:
Antillian wrote on 01/21/10 at 12:36:02:
And we have a Pirc from Kramnik today Shocked

I guess this is Kramnik's quest to win with Black against 1.e4  -  for much lower rated players at least. Should be interesting.

Kramnik was interviewed on the live broadcast right after his game in which Smeets got Kramnicked to death:

K said he never played or studied the Pirc before.
K bought "Pirc Alert" in the bookstore at the Corus tournament in between rounds 4 and 5.  K wanted to provoke Smeets' time trouble.  "I noticed he gets into time trouble, so i wanted to play something complicated."  "I learned the opening in one day."  Reading Pirc Alert on the rest day, he noticed the authors say that black is better in every line, "They really make you want to play this opening, it looks like white is pressing, but everywhere black is better."  Another quote: "I don't remember how much i paid for the book, but turned out to be good investment."

(quotes paraphrased  by memory. should be close.)

Poor poor Smeets.  But Naka vs. Carlsen, wow: An epic battle worthy of the competitors.  Naka pressing with no fear of Wonderboy, and Carlsen with ferocious defense.  Peace out.

  

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Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll
Reply #140 - 01/26/10 at 17:07:52
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I look forward to some analysis of Carlsen-Kramnik  0-1 
It looked to me like Kramnik's understanding of the position just totally outclassed Carlsen's.
  

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Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll
Reply #139 - 01/26/10 at 16:20:26
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Göran wrote on 01/25/10 at 15:17:00:

The great Chigorin said:

"Often "theoretical" is a synonyme for routine. Because that which is "theoretical" in chess is nothing other than what can be found in books, and which players endeavour to adhere to when they cannot devise anything stronger, or equally good and more original."


Thats a great quote, he knew a thing or two that Chigorin!
  
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Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll
Reply #138 - 01/26/10 at 16:17:32
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Ivanchuk-Shirov  ½-½
Kramnik-Carlsen  1-0

So Kramnik continues to surge forward, moving into a tie for first with Shirov.


Nakamura-Karjakin looks like 0-1 (though still being played at the moment)


I don't get what just happened (though I don't rule out tactical blindness on my part), but now it looks like Nakamura will win this.  

Haha.  There appears to have been a relay error.


And again...  Nakamura-Karjakin looks like 0-1
  

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Reply #137 - 01/26/10 at 15:13:45
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Pier lala wrote on 01/26/10 at 15:09:33:
By the way: Shirov is playing like a hungry tiger!

Who was the one who gave him the credits to win this tournament?  Roll Eyes


Check the first page of the thread! ; )
  
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Reply #136 - 01/26/10 at 15:09:33
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By the way: Shirov is playing like a hungry tiger!

Who was the one who gave him the credits to win this tournament?  Roll Eyes
  
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Reply #135 - 01/26/10 at 13:28:16
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Reply #134 - 01/26/10 at 12:47:32
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@ Pier lala: I like this.  Too funny.

Reminds me of when The Eagles said "You call someplace paradise, kiss it goodbye."
  

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Reply #133 - 01/26/10 at 12:41:24
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 01/25/10 at 14:18:31:
While I agree with Kramnik about the Dutch, if I were to express such an opinion in a Dutch thread, I would get cut to shreds.  I'm pleased to see the general audience here seems willing to agree with him.


As a recovering Lennigrad player, I am not so sure that Dutch fans would rip you to shreds. Afterall, you don't play the Dutch to equalize, you play to unbalance the game.

Keano wrote on 01/26/10 at 08:54:22:
The old Petrosian joke: 'If your opponent wants to play the Dutch Defence, you shouldn't prevent him!' might still have a grain of truth to it. 
Personally I think the stonewall could be sounder that the Leningrad, especially it the White Knight is committed to f3.


That is exactly right. Too many 1.d4 players I know are afraid of the Dutch. Half the battle is attitude. As I said, a certain air of contempt is needed with regards to these openings. 
  

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Reply #132 - 01/26/10 at 10:23:16
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I see a big positive point in Nakamura's lost.

(Besides that, the man deserves respect for attacking a former world champion with a risky "defense", instead of trying to kill the game for a remise. That's what today's world champion (Anand) did with white some days ago in almost the same opening. Unfortunately Kramnik was in an other state of mind. And anyone can lose with any kind of opening from him).

Imagine what happend when Nakamura had won.
"The Dutch" would have been a world wide mainsteam opening. And I could have put my newly bought "Leningrad" & "Dangerous Weapons: The Dutch" books in the closet, untill the dust went down. Because i like to play a little excentric.
And in my view "The Leningrad" is just that.. Cool
  
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