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Question: Who will win Wijk aan Zee?


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Carlsen 22 (44.9%) Anand 4 (8.2%) Kramnik 9 (18.4%) Ivanchuk 4 (8.2%) Leko 1 (2.0%) Shirov 1 (2.0%) Karjakin 2 (4.1%) Dominguez 0 (0.0%) Nakamura 5 (10.2%) Other 1 (2.0%) Total votes: 49 « Last Modified by: OstapBender on: 01/19/10 at 20:02:31 »

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TN God Member Offline Posts: 3420 Joined: 11/07/08 Gender:	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #161 - 01/30/10 at 19:20:06	Post Tools	Print Post
	Last round pairings: Van Wely-Anand Short-Smeets Nakamura-Tiviakov Carlsen-Caruana Ivanchuk-Leko Shirov-Dominguez Kramnik-Karjakin It's a funny coincidence that all the games in the 12th Round of the Corus A Group started with 1.e4.

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Antillian God Member Offline Brilliance without dazzle! Posts: 1757 Joined: 01/05/03 Gender:	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #160 - 01/30/10 at 17:26:33	Post Tools	Print Post
	Indeed Kramnik's Petroff has looked shaky - losing to Annand, and struggling for that draw against Shirov. Carlsen is now the sole leader going into the final round and is now heavily favoured to win clear first place. Hard to see Carlsen losing with White against Caruana. At worst, he might have to share the first prize with Kramnik or Shirov, should Caruana hold Carlsen to a draw and either Kramnik or Shirov win.

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belgian Full Member Offline Passionate about chess and poker... Posts: 129 Location: Toronto Joined: 05/14/07 Gender:	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #159 - 01/30/10 at 16:39:12	Post Tools	Print Post
	Willempie wrote on 01/30/10 at 09:31:08: I predict him to make Anand suffer for the draw. Nope. Anand wins in a gorgeous game. The Petroff is not an easy draw after all.


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Willempie God Member Offline I love ChessPublishing .com! Posts: 4312 Location: Holland Joined: 01/07/05	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #158 - 01/30/10 at 09:31:08	Post Tools	Print Post
	OstapBender wrote on 01/30/10 at 07:04:17: No "bye" for the leaders Kramnik or Carlsen next round: Anand-Kramnik Leko-Carlsen or for Shirov just a half point behind: Karjakin-Shirov I predict a quick draw in Anand-Kramnik and wonder how hard Carlsen will fight for the full point with the black pieces against Leko. Carlsen's probably in the best position to win the tournament right now, but I'd love to see Shirov move back into first with a victory over Karjakin (with the help of a couple of draws at the top). He made such a fine effort in round 10 at trading places with Kramnik in the standings. It is great to see Krammers back as a real fighter in tournaments. I predict him to make Anand suffer for the draw.

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OstapBender God Member Offline There is no spoon. Posts: 1491 Location: not in Kansas anymore Joined: 10/16/04	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #157 - 01/30/10 at 07:04:17	Post Tools	Print Post
	No "bye" for the leaders Kramnik or Carlsen next round: Anand-Kramnik Leko-Carlsen or for Shirov just a half point behind: Karjakin-Shirov I predict a quick draw in Anand-Kramnik and wonder how hard Carlsen will fight for the full point with the black pieces against Leko. Carlsen's probably in the best position to win the tournament right now, but I'd love to see Shirov move back into first with a victory over Karjakin (with the help of a couple of draws at the top). He made such a fine effort in round 10 at trading places with Kramnik in the standings.

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OstapBender God Member Offline There is no spoon. Posts: 1491 Location: not in Kansas anymore Joined: 10/16/04	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #156 - 01/30/10 at 06:38:51	Post Tools	Print Post
	I just got a look at Ian Roger's commentary of the Shirov-Kramnik game a few minutes ago (busy day). Although it started off looking like an uneventful draw, it certainly got exciting in the final stage of the game!

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Antillian God Member Offline Brilliance without dazzle! Posts: 1757 Joined: 01/05/03 Gender:	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #155 - 01/29/10 at 18:00:14	Post Tools	Print Post
	So Kramnik survives a close one to get the half point against Shirov. Meanwhile, Carlsen had a bye. Looks like a straight fight between Kramnik and Carlsen going into the final furlong. Kramnik has the slightly tougher draw in the last two, having Black against World Champion Anand next. Not that he has been playing like a world champion recently. Carlsen has Black against Leko next. Should be an exciting finish.

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Bowen Full Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 147 Joined: 07/01/09	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #154 - 01/27/10 at 23:11:57	Post Tools	Print Post
	The remaining three rounds are much easier for Carlsen than Kramnik. I believe that Carlsen will win the tournament with 2.5/3 while Kramnik might make 1.5/3.


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LeeRoth God Member Offline I love ChessPublishing.com! Posts: 1520 Joined: 10/22/05	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #153 - 01/27/10 at 20:56:45	Post Tools	Print Post
	Thanks Katar for posting that link. I watched the video of Kramnik explaining his win over Carlsen. It's unbelievable how much he sees. And how much he looks at, even at the end of the game when he already had what looked like a winning position. Go Vladdy!


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Smyslov_Fan God Member Correspondence fan Offline Progress depends on the unreasonable man. ~GBS Posts: 6902 Joined: 06/15/05	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #152 - 01/27/10 at 19:41:09	Post Tools	Print Post
	And Smeets lost again. This may be his last Corus GM-A tournament, especially with Giri moving up fast.


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Antillian God Member Offline Brilliance without dazzle! Posts: 1757 Joined: 01/05/03 Gender:	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #151 - 01/27/10 at 18:58:50	Post Tools	Print Post
	Wow...another Shirov loss. And Anand remembers how to win. Kramnik might well pull this one off, but of course he still has to get pass Shirov and Ananad. Carlsen has far easier draws in the last three rounds.

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OstapBender God Member Offline There is no spoon. Posts: 1491 Location: not in Kansas anymore Joined: 10/16/04	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #150 - 01/27/10 at 18:22:58	Post Tools	Print Post
	The corus server seems to be down. Kramnik-Ivanchuk ½-½ Anand-Shirov 1-0 Karjakin-Carlsen 0-1 as reported on Susan Polgar's blog. PGN's for round 10 games are here , but I don't know if they are being updated. Dominguez has had an edge in his game against Nakamura (since move 20 or so), but I don't think it was ever a winning advantage. On move 61, we had ending with Q+3P vs Q+3P with all pawns on the same flank. Nakamura's pawns are worse (doubled, isolated) but easy to defend. Assume this one will be a draw. The PGN's at this site are being updated. A couple of other games finished are: Dominguez-Nakamura ½-½ Leko-Short ½-½ So it's Kramnik alone in 1st with 7/10 Carlsen and Shirov tied for 2nd with 6.5/10 Karjakin, Nakamura, Dominguez, Anand, and Ivanchuk all have 5.5/10 There is also up to date, live coverage at Chessvibes.

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gewgaw God Member Offline I love ChessPublishing.com! Posts: 687 Location: europe Joined: 09/09/04	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #149 - 01/27/10 at 17:12:26	Post Tools	Print Post
	Nakamura is a new face with an attractive style. I´d invite more players like him and neglect players like leko.

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Smyslov_Fan God Member Correspondence fan Offline Progress depends on the unreasonable man. ~GBS Posts: 6902 Joined: 06/15/05	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #148 - 01/27/10 at 14:02:33	Post Tools	Print Post
	Actually, Kramnik said that he will be a top ten player, not that he is a top ten player. I've no idea if Carlsen has said that yet. But you're right, it doesn't matter what I say. What matters is what the sponsors of the elite tournaments think.


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trw YaBB Moderator Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 1414 Joined: 05/06/08 Gender:	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #147 - 01/27/10 at 07:35:57	Post Tools	Print Post
	Smyslov_Fan wrote on 01/26/10 at 19:18:14: I had stated elsewhere that I wanted to wait to see how Nakamura handles losing in a top-flight tnmt before I considered him a super-GM. It looks like I'm going to have to wait another tournament (or two or....) before I accept him as one of the top ten players in the world. He's an excellent player with an excellent future, but he still has some serious weaknesses to overcome. One will be a more sophisticated opening repertoire and another will be to improve his fighting spirit. (The second weakness had been suggested before when Nakamura declined invitations to elite tournaments in the past, but showed itself in a different form when he suffered his second consecutive loss.) How many times has Kramnik suffered consecutive losses since, say, Carlsen was born? I just ran a cursory check on Kramnik's games from late 1989-2009. I didn't include any blitz/blindfold/simul events and I only counted consecutive losses in the same tournament. I came up with: Linares 1994: Losses to Karpov and Shirov Siemens 1999: Losses to Anand and Kasparov World Ch. Knockout 1999: Losses to Adams (rapid stage) Sophia 2005: Losses to Ponomariov and Anand Overall, this is a very impressive and short list! Too bad it doesn't matter if you accept Nakamura as top ten or not. Kramnik and Carlsen have both stated numerous times during this tournament they can see his improvement and would consider him a contender.


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