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Question: Who will win Wijk aan Zee?


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Carlsen 22 (44.9%) Anand 4 (8.2%) Kramnik 9 (18.4%) Ivanchuk 4 (8.2%) Leko 1 (2.0%) Shirov 1 (2.0%) Karjakin 2 (4.1%) Dominguez 0 (0.0%) Nakamura 5 (10.2%) Other 1 (2.0%) Total votes: 49 « Last Modified by: OstapBender on: 01/19/10 at 20:02:31 »

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2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll (Read 63179 times)

belgian Full Member Offline Passionate about chess and poker... Posts: 129 Location: Toronto Joined: 05/14/07 Gender:	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #176 - 02/02/10 at 19:11:52	Post Tools	Print Post
	Keano wrote on 02/01/10 at 16:37:52: Yes, what I like about Carslen though (aside from the chess) is his refreshing honesty - after winning the event he said "I had some good games; sometimes I played well and sometimes I played lousy. In the end, I won the tournament with a lot of luck". I agree. However, I've equally enjoying watching other players. I found Anand to be very straight-forward too, for example admitting gambling in his game against Shirov -- i.e. playing for the win, counting on Shirov missing 39.-Ng3 with less than a minute on the clock. And I find Kramnik to be entertaining to listen to. A great combination of chess insight with a sprinkling of humor.


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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #175 - 02/01/10 at 16:37:52	Post Tools	Print Post
	Yes, what I like about Carslen though (aside from the chess) is his refreshing honesty - after winning the event he said "I had some good games; sometimes I played well and sometimes I played lousy. In the end, I won the tournament with a lot of luck". I can't think of too many other of the current crop of top players who would be that magnanimous, in fact not naming any names, we might have had to listen to a bit of self-congratulatory back-slapping combined with explaining why they should be World champion or intend to be.


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Antillian God Member Offline Brilliance without dazzle! Posts: 1757 Joined: 01/05/03 Gender:	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #174 - 02/01/10 at 15:41:22	Post Tools	Print Post
	So Carlsen wins again. Hmm...this is starting to get ridiculous now. He can't win everything! Isn't there a rule against this? Sssh.

	"Breakthrough results come about by a series of good decisions, diligently executed and accumulated one on top of another." Jim Collins --- Good to Great
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Papageno Senior Member Offline FM Posts: 299 Location: Germany Joined: 06/12/08 Gender:	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #173 - 02/01/10 at 13:27:03	Post Tools	Print Post
	Are there any (live) comments by some commentators or the players themselves floating around in the Web about what happened in the round 12 game Smeets-Van Wely? 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 e6 7. f4 Nbd7 8. Qe2 Qc7 9. O-O-O b5 10. g3 Be7 11. Bg2 Bb7 12. e5 dxe5 13. fxe5 Nd5 14. Bxe7 Nxc3 15. bxc3 Bxg2 16. Qxg2 Kxe7 17. Nc6+ Kf8 18. Rhf1 Nb6 19. Qf3 Re8 20. Nd8 Re7 21. Rd6 Ke8 22. Rxb6 Qxd8 23. Rxa6 1-0 According to Sibke Ernst (Smeets' second), the position after move 17 was on the board in their preparation and is already close to winning. So what went wrong for Van Wely? Did he mix up lines? His setup seems to work well against 10.g4 but not against 10.g3. Or is there another specific reason that Van Wely didn't go for (after 10.g3) 10... b4 which was twice played by Gelfand in the 1990ies? After all 10. a3 (as played in Ivanchuk-Van Wely a few rounds before) seems to me to be the main line. In other words, theory seems to agree that White should prevent b5-b4 first. Right?
	« Last Edit: 02/01/10 at 16:09:30 by Papageno »

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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #172 - 02/01/10 at 11:10:26	Post Tools	Print Post
	LeeRoth wrote on 01/31/10 at 21:18:22: Short-Smeets must have been staged. The official site says that both playets took a lot of their time, but still . . . Not a chance, thats a normal line in the dxe5 line except I think ...Kf8 is more normal, Smeets must have prepared the king advance. Short played dxe5 against Kramnik and Smeets always plays Petroff. It just happened to be an interesting perpetual but its a normal if amusing game. By the way, well done to Carlsen again! He had some shaky moments in the tournament but winning Wijk aan Zee is not easy - Kramniks been around a long time and never managed it!


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chk God Member Offline a pawn is a pawn Posts: 1063 Location: Athens Joined: 10/26/06 Gender:	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #171 - 02/01/10 at 09:23:57	Post Tools	Print Post
	Nakamura is doing a Carlsen (from the Live ELO list): Nakamura 2734,8 +26,8 Mamedyarov did not bad either: Mamedyarov 2759,5 +18,5

	"I play honestly and I play to win. If I lose, I take my medicine." - Bobby
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Smyslov_Fan God Member Correspondence fan Offline Progress depends on the unreasonable man. ~GBS Posts: 6902 Joined: 06/15/05	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #170 - 01/31/10 at 21:27:57	Post Tools	Print Post
	Lee Roth wrote: Quote: Short-Smeets must have been staged. The official site says that both playets took a lot of their time, but still . . . Yeah, clearly Short-Smeets was staged. It was a 14 move draw by repetition. Where's the Sophia rule when you need it? What? Smeets sacked a Knight on f2 and Short misplayed it? Then Smeets missed a win and allowed the perpetual? Oh, maybe the game wasn't staged, and maybe it's an argument against the Sophia rule? :


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LeeRoth God Member Offline I love ChessPublishing.com! Posts: 1520 Joined: 10/22/05	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #169 - 01/31/10 at 21:18:22	Post Tools	Print Post
	Short-Smeets must have been staged. The official site says that both playets took a lot of their time, but still . . .


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OstapBender God Member Offline There is no spoon. Posts: 1491 Location: not in Kansas anymore Joined: 10/16/04	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #168 - 01/31/10 at 21:16:46	Post Tools	Print Post
	Yes, Nakamura won his game. I think he had a good tournament despite falling out of contention for first place at the midpoint. I think he'll continue to get invited to the elite events, at least for a while. And it was an exciting last round overall—to a great tournament. Although Carlsen won as expected, Shirov came close to beating Dominguez and Carlsen barely held the draw against Caruana.

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belgian Full Member Offline Passionate about chess and poker... Posts: 129 Location: Toronto Joined: 05/14/07 Gender:	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #167 - 01/31/10 at 16:48:39	Post Tools	Print Post
	Naka seems to be close to winning after 53. a5. He prefers 53. Bc4 though. I suspect that good enough too, after 53. -Rd2 54. Rd1.


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belgian Full Member Offline Passionate about chess and poker... Posts: 129 Location: Toronto Joined: 05/14/07 Gender:	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #166 - 01/31/10 at 16:43:52	Post Tools	Print Post
	Willempie wrote on 01/31/10 at 16:06:55: And Giri wins the B, at least some dutchies are performing well Yea, it's amazing how strong the new generation is. Soon Magnus will have company his age in the top ten.


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Willempie God Member Offline I love ChessPublishing .com! Posts: 4312 Location: Holland Joined: 01/07/05	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #165 - 01/31/10 at 16:06:55	Post Tools	Print Post
	And Giri wins the B, at least some dutchies are performing well

	If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through.
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belgian Full Member Offline Passionate about chess and poker... Posts: 129 Location: Toronto Joined: 05/14/07 Gender:	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #164 - 01/31/10 at 15:23:05	Post Tools	Print Post
	Oh. no! Shirov agrees to a draw... Doesn't 31.b4 win??? It appears neither player had practically any time left. It's easy to see a win as a kibitzer --without the pressure of the clock ticking. Carlsen may hang on to a draw now... He's seems to have just enough counterplay. WOW. What an exciting tournament this has been!


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belgian Full Member Offline Passionate about chess and poker... Posts: 129 Location: Toronto Joined: 05/14/07 Gender:	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #163 - 01/31/10 at 15:03:22	Post Tools	Print Post
	Antillian wrote on 01/30/10 at 17:26:33: Carlsen is now the sole leader going into the final round and is now heavily favoured to win clear first place. Hard to see Carlsen losing with White against Caruana. At worst, he might have to share the first prize with Kramnik or Shirov, should Caruana hold Carlsen to a draw and either Kramnik or Shirov win. Amazing finish going on. Kramnik's game a draw already; Carlsen's lost; Shirov has set the board on fire --but Dominguez's still in the game...


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trw YaBB Moderator Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 1414 Joined: 05/06/08 Gender:	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #162 - 01/31/10 at 05:08:35	Post Tools	Print Post
	Antillian wrote on 01/30/10 at 17:26:33: Indeed Kramnik's Petroff has looked shaky - losing to Annand, and struggling for that draw against Shirov. AND SHORT Carlsen is now the sole leader going into the final round and is now heavily favoured to win clear first place. Hard to see Carlsen losing with White against Caruana. At worst, he might have to share the first prize with Kramnik or Shirov, should Caruana hold Carlsen to a draw and either Kramnik or Shirov win.


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