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Question: Who will win Wijk aan Zee?


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Carlsen 22 (44.9%) Anand 4 (8.2%) Kramnik 9 (18.4%) Ivanchuk 4 (8.2%) Leko 1 (2.0%) Shirov 1 (2.0%) Karjakin 2 (4.1%) Dominguez 0 (0.0%) Nakamura 5 (10.2%) Other 1 (2.0%) Total votes: 49 « Last Modified by: OstapBender on: 01/19/10 at 20:02:31 »

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GabrielGale Senior Member Offline Who was Thursday? Posts: 471 Location: Sydney Joined: 02/28/08 Gender:	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #86 - 01/21/10 at 13:33:56	Post Tools	Print Post
	And have a look at Van Wely - Shirov, wow! Shirov played 8...g5 9...g4! Talk about agrro!!! Someone is saying it is Carlsen vs Kramnik from London Classic ... No it is not!

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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #85 - 01/21/10 at 13:31:17	Post Tools	Print Post
	Shirovs line with 8...g5 has just a hint of agression about it - will have to consult Mr Marin later. Cant remember Kramnik playing such a risky line as Black - he´s obviously targeted Smeets as a bunny that must be beaten regardless of colour ....could backfire though.


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GabrielGale Senior Member Offline Who was Thursday? Posts: 471 Location: Sydney Joined: 02/28/08 Gender:	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #84 - 01/21/10 at 13:25:46	Post Tools	Print Post
	Antillian wrote on 01/21/10 at 12:36:02: And we have a Pirc from Kramnik today Looks like "botched" attempt at a 150 Attack by Smeets? He has taken a long time over his reply to Kramnik's 6th move 6...b5. Perhaps he has forgotten his theory? even though 150= 1800 Elo and playable at that level? Vigus recommends h3 and f4against ...a6 following Z Hracek- M Konopka Pardubice 1998 ... what do you guys think? This is shaping up to be a slaughter/debacle ... unless Smeets is doing a Leko who thought for 40 mins before coming up with a winner, didn't he?

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Schaakhamster God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 650 Joined: 05/13/08	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #83 - 01/21/10 at 13:06:44	Post Tools	Print Post
	Antillian wrote on 01/21/10 at 12:36:02: And we have a Pirc from Kramnik today I guess this is Kramnik's quest to win with Black against 1.e4 - for much lower rated players at least. Should be interesting. And Nakamura with a delayed exchange variation


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Antillian God Member Offline Brilliance without dazzle! Posts: 1757 Joined: 01/05/03 Gender:	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #82 - 01/21/10 at 12:36:02	Post Tools	Print Post
	And we have a Pirc from Kramnik today I guess this is Kramnik's quest to win with Black against 1.e4 - for much lower rated players at least. Should be interesting.

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MNb God Member Offline Rudolf Spielmann forever Posts: 10777 Location: Moengo Joined: 01/05/04 Gender:	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #81 - 01/21/10 at 03:04:42	Post Tools	Print Post
	LeeRoth wrote on 01/20/10 at 23:58:01: Tal said it best: First you sacrifice, then you think! He also said: there are two kinds of sacrifices, the correct ones and mine.

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OstapBender God Member Offline There is no spoon. Posts: 1491 Location: not in Kansas anymore Joined: 10/16/04	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #80 - 01/21/10 at 02:24:23	Post Tools	Print Post
	An excellent video showing Svidler's analysis of Short-Nakamura (round 3) can be found here (or here).

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LeeRoth God Member Offline I love ChessPublishing.com! Posts: 1520 Joined: 10/22/05	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #79 - 01/20/10 at 23:58:01	Post Tools	Print Post
	Tal said it best: First you sacrifice, then you think!


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Schaakhamster God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 650 Joined: 05/13/08	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #78 - 01/20/10 at 20:53:15	Post Tools	Print Post
	Smyslov_Fan wrote on 01/20/10 at 19:46:35: Keano wrote on 01/20/10 at 17:55:50: Yes, just saw Shirovs quick notes and hes quite honest about it giving Bxh6 a "?" - a bit harsh on himself? This game could be an example of Tals quote - "the good players are always lucky". If you read Tal's own notes to his games, you will find many of his most brilliant moves get either a "?" or no mark at all. Tal was brutally honest and self-deprecating when it came to his own brilliancies. Shirov has emulated Tal in many ways, including his commentary on his own games. Objectively many of his moves were not the best move in the position. But they created positions where he had no equal, except against a supercalculator like Korchnoi. Honestly, I wouldn't put this game of Shirov in the Tal category. Shirov thought the sacrifice was sound when he went for it only to find out it wasn't. Tal often knew that the resulting position of his sacrifice was murky at best.


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Smyslov_Fan God Member Correspondence fan Offline Progress depends on the unreasonable man. ~GBS Posts: 6902 Joined: 06/15/05	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #77 - 01/20/10 at 19:46:35	Post Tools	Print Post
	Keano wrote on 01/20/10 at 17:55:50: Yes, just saw Shirovs quick notes and hes quite honest about it giving Bxh6 a "?" - a bit harsh on himself? This game could be an example of Tals quote - "the good players are always lucky". If you read Tal's own notes to his games, you will find many of his most brilliant moves get either a "?" or no mark at all. Tal was brutally honest and self-deprecating when it came to his own brilliancies. Shirov has emulated Tal in many ways, including his commentary on his own games.


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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #76 - 01/20/10 at 17:55:50	Post Tools	Print Post
	OstapBender wrote on 01/20/10 at 13:51:37: For White to play for a win 26.Bxh6 (assessment either ?! or ? IMO) was the best practical chance, but objectively I think it's not a correct sacrifice. With best play by both sides, I'm pretty sure White should come out worse. I think the problem for White is bringing the knight into the attack (as happened in the game, but only due to faulty defense). White can bail into a 3P vs B ending, but here Black's bishop is better than White's 3 pawns. Shirov suggests a difficult ending that might hold drawing chances for White. The game's been annotated by Shirov at the Corus site and by Monokroussos at The Chess Mind blog. Yes, just saw Shirovs quick notes and hes quite honest about it giving Bxh6 a "?" - a bit harsh on himself? This game could be an example of Tals quote - "the good players are always lucky".


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BPaulsen God Member Offline I Love Light Squares! Posts: 1702 Location: Anaheim, CA, USA Joined: 11/02/08 Gender:	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #75 - 01/20/10 at 14:40:05	Post Tools	Print Post
	In Group B GM Akobian has been showing an impressive dedication to the Tarrasch Defense, a rarity at the upper levels. He drew in the 9. Bg5 c4 line, but lost to the newly popular (I'm guessing thanks in large part to Avrukh's efforts) 9. dxc5.

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TicklyTim Senior Member Offline can I take that back, please... Posts: 274 Location: England Joined: 05/29/09 Gender:	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #74 - 01/20/10 at 14:09:00	Post Tools	Print Post
	Read a quote that suggests that Shirov hadn't considered 27...Bh7. Maybe his assessment of the sacrifice didn't include this defence!


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OstapBender God Member Offline There is no spoon. Posts: 1491 Location: not in Kansas anymore Joined: 10/16/04	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #73 - 01/20/10 at 13:51:37	Post Tools	Print Post
	Keano wrote on 01/20/10 at 11:32:53: Is Shirovs 26.Bxh6 really unsound? Looks decent enough to me at first glance, any analysis posted on the web somewhere? For White to play for a win 26.Bxh6 (assessment either ?! or ? IMO) was the best practical chance, but objectively I think it's not a correct sacrifice. With best play by both sides, I'm pretty sure White should come out worse. I think the problem for White is bringing the knight into the attack (as happened in the game, but only due to faulty defense). White can bail into a 3P vs B ending, but here Black's bishop is better than White's 3 pawns. Shirov suggests a difficult ending that might hold drawing chances for White. The game's been annotated by Shirov at the Corus site and by Monokroussos at The Chess Mind blog.

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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: 2010 Wijk aan Zee, Group A Poll Reply #72 - 01/20/10 at 11:32:53	Post Tools	Print Post
	Is Shirovs 26.Bxh6 really unsound? Looks decent enough to me at first glance, any analysis posted on the web somewhere?


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