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Re: Everyman announces book on the Leningrad
Reply #99 - 02/11/13 at 20:07:08
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tony37 wrote on 02/09/13 at 18:32:41:
I think it's an interesting variation Ender gives, so why not talk about some concrete move orders?


Well, one thing that I would consider would be an early c5.  E.g. 1.d4 f5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.c4 g6 4.Nc3 Bg7 5.Bf4 c5, since 6.d5 is not a strong rejoinder, insofar as I can see; nor is 6.dxc5 Na6.  It could go 6.e3 0-0 7.Be2 (again, 7.dxc6 Na6) 7...Ne4.  Just thinking out loud, really.  Is Black so bad?

I don't think that Black's focus on ...e5 in the Leningrad should be completely single-minded, any more than it should be in the KID.
  

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Reply #98 - 02/09/13 at 18:32:41
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I think it's an interesting variation Ender gives, so why not talk about some concrete move orders?
  
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Reply #97 - 02/09/13 at 02:44:28
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Ender wrote on 02/08/13 at 17:14:23:
just check with Houdini.

That settles every opening issue, I guess. No need for further investigation. The only question that remains unanswered then is why you ask us simple humans.
  

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Reply #96 - 02/08/13 at 17:14:23
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MNb wrote on 02/08/13 at 17:11:20:
Ender wrote on 02/08/13 at 01:09:41:
My problem

O-O; Qe8; h6; Nh5 and White can't prevent e7-e5. If White plays h2-h3 you might even consider g6-g5-g4.



It is not so eaesy, just check with Houdini. White is comfortable after this Nh5 manouvre. I know that his plan looks logical for black, but it is not so easy. I tried it in many games and i feel hat black has no counterplay. This Bf4 system is much, much better than his reputation.
  

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Reply #95 - 02/08/13 at 17:11:20
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Ender wrote on 02/08/13 at 01:09:41:
My problem

O-O; Qe8; h6; Nh5 and White can't prevent e7-e5. If White plays h2-h3 you might even consider g6-g5-g4.
  

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Re: Everyman announces book on the Leningrad
Reply #94 - 02/08/13 at 01:09:41
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My problem with this book is that he gave no antidote to popular on club level line, where white plays 

1. d4 f5 2. c4 Nf6 3. Nf3 g6 4. Nc3 Bg7 5. Bf4 d6 with e3, Qc2, Be2 and 0-0. This line is not easy to play for black, since there is almost no hope for e5 break. Believe it or not, but i fount this setup more annoying that any major system. This is the reason I gave up leningrad since i feel that black has not much counterplay. Bishop on f4 looks silly, but it covers e5 square very good. If black wants to play Nh5, then white don't need to move ths bishop, since he can recapture with e pawn and black have problematic pawn on e7. What to do in this setup, what is the best plan for black?
  

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Re: Everyman announces book on the Leningrad
Reply #93 - 12/28/11 at 17:12:37
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Gueler wrote on 12/26/11 at 15:49:18:
Chess_Addict wrote on 05/31/11 at 10:55:09:
OT: did I miss something or we were supposed to have 2 updates within a year from publication?


I tohught it might  be of interest to know that the two updates have been publsihed. 



Thanks! 

Nice that the updates finally arrived. Though I'm still not convinced that 14.Be3 is defanged. 19.Rd5, instead of 19.Ne6, seems to eventually give white a better version of the R+Bw vs R+Bb ending after Ne6. After some complicated tactical operations it seems white will be a pawn up with connected passed pawns on h2 and g3 with black having a passed c-pawn as compensation. It might be a draw with perfect defence, but I wouldn't be interested in playing it with black.

Still, 11...Kh8 among others, is probably still a quite solid alternative.
  
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Re: Everyman announces book on the Leningrad
Reply #92 - 12/26/11 at 15:49:18
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Chess_Addict wrote on 05/31/11 at 10:55:09:
OT: did I miss something or we were supposed to have 2 updates within a year from publication?


I tohught it might  be of interest to know that the two updates have been publsihed. 

http://www.everymanchess.com/chess/books/Play_the_Dutch%3A_An_Opening_Repertoire...

Scroll down to the bottom of the page and either download the pgn files or, while using an iPad, load them into your ChessViewer

As pointed out earlier, the critical line 1. d4 f5 2. c4 Nf6 3. g3 g6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. Nf3 0-0 6. 0-0 d6 7. Nc3 Nc6 8. d5 Na5 9. Qa4 c5 10. dc6 Nc6 11. Rd1 Ne4 12. Ne4 fe4 13. Ng5 Nd4 14. Be3 was omitted by Neil McD. Neil provided an update to 14.Be3 in the notes to the game Goganov - Grigoryan 2011.

Since we are talking about updates.... There are also a number of relatively recent New in Chess Yearbooks which have some relevant information to McD's book. You can download games, to get an idea what the surveys are about. Consider, however,  that the downloads do not have the annotations, which is where the meat is.

YB 90: 1. d4 f5 2. c4 Nf6 3. g3 g6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. Nf3 0-0 6. 0-0 d6 7. Nc3 Nc6 8. d5 Na5 9. Qa4 c5 10. dc6 Nc6 11. Rd1 Kh8

YB 92: 1. d4 f5 2. c4 Nf6 3. g3 g6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. Nf3 0-0 6. 0-0 d6 7. Nc3 Nc6 8. d5 Na5 9. Qd3

YB 94: 1. d4 f5 2. Nc3 d5

YB 72 and 95: 1. d4 f5 2. Bg5  h6

YB 85: 1. d4 f5 2. h3  /  1. d4 f5 2. e4  / 1. d4 f5 2. Nc3  d5

YB 74: 1. d4 f5 2. c4 Nf6 3. g3 g6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. Nc3 0-0 6. Nh3 d6 7. d5


And here are some CBM surveys that relate to McD's book:

CMB 131: 1.d4 f5 2.g3 Nf6 3.Bg2 g6 4.Nh3 Bg7 5.Nf4
CBM 125: 1.d4 f5 2.c4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.f3
CBM 130: 1.d4 f5 2.g3 Nf6 3.Bg2 g6 4.c4 Bg7 5.Nc3 0-0 6.Nh3 
CBM 126: 1.Nf3 f5 2.d3



  
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Reply #91 - 06/02/11 at 12:28:38
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Chess_Addict wrote on 05/31/11 at 10:55:09:
OT: did I miss something or we were supposed to have 2 updates within a year from publication?


Totally. Actually Everyman are 2-3 months late as far as this book goes since i think it was September 2010!? Yea, thats interesting move what of it

ANYWAY you know what i was thinking? Instead on 11...Ne4 as everyone keeps talking about, i think that 11...Bd7!? may still be ok.

The Rybka line goes: (And the play looks easier for black to me so this looks like a good suprise to me) 12.c5! dxc5 13.Qc4+ Kh8 14.Qxc5 Rc8 15.Nd4 Nxd4 16.Qxd4 Qa5 17.Bxb7!? (Maybe i was thinking 17.Be3 is better but i cbb checking its late at night) 17...Rcd8 18.Qf4 Ng4!?

Anyway, that looks fun for Black at least, to me who likes to sacrifice things. Any comments? 

Maybe Neil Mcdonald will comment in his update!
  
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Reply #90 - 05/31/11 at 10:55:09
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OT: did I miss something or we were supposed to have 2 updates within a year from publication?
  
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Reply #89 - 04/14/11 at 12:08:03
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TalJechin wrote on 04/14/11 at 00:01:04:

It seems to me that insisting on a Leningrad Stonewall is the solution to the early b4-ideas. Kindermann was certainly on the right track, but after for example 6.b4 Nc6 7.a3 he still preferred d6. Not that d6+e5 is unplayable, but it gives White the play he wants.


I'm still very happy that Kindermann included those ...d6 lines. As you know, some people reach the Leningrad from a 1.d4 d6 or 1.Nf3 d6 move order to avoid various Anti-Dutches. With ...d6 in, the "Leningrad Stonewall" would come with loss of tempo.

If the b4 lines really are that strong with Black committed to ...d6, then I may have to consider allowing the dreaded 1.d4 f5 2.Nc3 again...
  

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Reply #88 - 04/14/11 at 00:01:04
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Certainly against the b4 approach, Kindermann also gave the Stonewall setup - I couldn't see anything new.  Although McDonald does offer the Stonewall against Avrukh's b3 system...


I had to look this up, as I haven't looked at it for a long time. And you're kind of right, on p108-109 he mentions 6.b4 Nc6! in a footnote, but 80% of those two pages are devoted to 6...d6 7.Bb2 Nc6 etc and on p106-107 vs 5.b4 he also mentions Nc6 briefly, but again the emphasis is on plans with d6+e5. 

It seems to me that insisting on a Leningrad Stonewall is the solution to the early b4-ideas. Kindermann was certainly on the right track, but after for example 6.b4 Nc6 7.a3 he still preferred d6. Not that d6+e5 is unplayable, but it gives White the play he wants.
  
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Reply #87 - 04/13/11 at 21:15:25
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Certainly against the b4 approach, Kindermann also gave the Stonewall setup - I couldn't see anything new.  Although McDonald does offer the Stonewall against Avrukh's b3 system...
  
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Reply #86 - 04/13/11 at 10:23:57
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The strength of the book is in the recipes vs ML divergences - here's a scalp I took a month ago in the series, partly thanks to the recommendation of the Leningrad Stonewall. Though we were out of book after seven moves, as he went Nbd2 instead of Qd3, still strategically it didn't change too much c4 is still a weak square...

  
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Reply #85 - 03/02/11 at 14:44:27
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tafl wrote on 03/02/11 at 14:04:56:
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Btw, when looking thru the DW Dutch, I noticed another omission of a vital corr game in an Everyman book - maybe they should sponsor their authors with a corr base?

1. d4 f5 2. Bg5 h6 3. Bh4 g5 4. e4 Rh7 5. Qh5+ Rf7 6. Nf3 Nf6 7. Qg6 Nc6 8. e5 Ne4!? 9. d5 Nb4 10.Nc3!! seems to tip the scales clearly in White's favour. 

(Now, Williams only gives: 10.e6 Nxc2+ 11. Kd1 dxe6 12. Kxc2 Qxd5) 

10... gxh4? (10... Bg7 11. Nxe4) 11.O-O-O Nxd5 12. e6 dxe6 13. Nxe4  1-0 Smith,D (2016)-Herzog,K (2041)/LSS 2007. 

However, 9...gxh4 instead of Nb4 may save the line for Black, or simply playing Williams' mainline 8...gxh4 instead of the interesting Ne4.


Any opinions on 8.Ne5!? as suggested in "A Killer Chess Opening Repertoire".


Not mentioned by Williams as far as I can see. It looks very sensible, and cuts out a lot of Black's play. 
I don't know if it better for White, but otb I'd prefer White. So, 4...Rh7 feels more and more like a fun line for blitz games, but too risky for longer games.
  
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