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Re: Taking risks?
Reply #11 - 02/04/10 at 18:30:08
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GMTonyKosten wrote on 02/04/10 at 16:43:33:
Risk taking should almost never be necessary! Just try to play the best moves! Smiley


I don't get this, because I'd have thought that even for a GM there were such a thing as unfathomable complications.  And don't you sometimes have the choice between launching into complications with very murky conclusions and playing a staid move?  Obviously one wants to play the "best" move, but doesn't that somewhat beg the question?  I'd be very interested to know what a GM thinks about this.

It hasn't really been discussed here but this taking risk thing applies to repertoire choices as well, it seems to me.  Doesn't the Modern Benoni player undertake greater risk than the Slav player?  I'd hate to live in a world where everyone played the Slav, though sometimes it seems like I already do.  I'd like to think that in exchange for his risk, the Modern Benoni player gets the opportunity for counterplay that Slav players can only dream of (yeah, yeah, I know that there are dynamic lines of the Slav, but permit me to typefy.)
  

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Re: Taking risks?
Reply #10 - 02/04/10 at 16:43:33
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Risk taking should almost never be necessary! Just try to play the best moves! Smiley
  
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Re: Taking risks?
Reply #9 - 02/04/10 at 13:38:55
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I have actually found that not "taking risks" is in itself very risky! Whenever I try to make a strategy of safe and solid moves, I wind up in a horrendously passive position where the opponent can win at ease since I am not threatening him. So one needs to be a bit active, and at the very least accept loosening the pawn structure a bit, even though that may feel like a risky thing to do.
  
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Re: Taking risks?
Reply #8 - 01/30/10 at 14:37:42
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Antillian wrote on 01/30/10 at 13:05:02:
I would suggest you invest in a general middlegame book and would recommend Silman's "How to Re-asses your Chess" 
This is the usual bad advice from chess players to chess players. The kernel of the problem is described very well here: http://www.chesscafe.com/text/heisman06.pdf Too much speculation too less knowing in the answer given here.

For these kind of questions there is no general answer. A good answer depends on playing level and profile of the questioner. (Btw: It is addressed in the article and in the title of Silman's book. Before re-assessing something you have to assess something. Silman's book is no book for beginners till average level, which is ~1600.)
  

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Re: Taking risks?
Reply #7 - 01/30/10 at 13:05:02
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I am interpreting the original poster's  use of the word "blunder" to mean "obvious tactical mistake".  If so, the question suggests to me a very one dimensional view of the game of chess and lack of awareness of chess strategy. 

I would suggest you invest in a general middlegame book and would recommend Silman's "How to Re-asses your Chess"
  

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Re: Taking risks?
Reply #6 - 01/30/10 at 12:55:53
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Even super GMs routinely make less than perfect moves (mistakes) during a game.  If you don't recognizing your opponents mistakes then why would you expect to win?  Just play on and when you finally see a mistake, pounce on it, otherwise try not to lose.
And one other thing, a desperato attack when you are losing is not really risk taking.       
  

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Re: Taking risks?
Reply #5 - 01/30/10 at 12:32:26
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msiipola wrote on 01/30/10 at 10:12:47:
If your opponent don't make blunders,


... then maybe they are using an analysis engine?  Wink

But if they aren't, and they don't, they will still make lesser mistakes which you can exploit.

  

Those who want to go by my perverse footsteps play such pawn structure with fuzzy atypical still strategic orientations

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Re: Taking risks?
Reply #4 - 01/30/10 at 12:10:18
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Taking pawns and pieces usually works better
  

If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through.
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Re: Taking risks?
Reply #3 - 01/30/10 at 11:44:47
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Just play good moves. Your opponent will make weaker ones. 
Hey presto.
  
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Re: Taking risks?
Reply #2 - 01/30/10 at 11:41:51
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You should take risks, but only when they are rational and calculated. However, the intended 'risky' move does not always have to be objectively the best - sometimes a speculative sacrifice that complicates the position significantly, creating a dangerous and sudden attack against the opponent's king where the opponent must calculate accurately, can decide the game in your favour. 

I advise against taking irrational risks, such as sacrificing material for minimal compensation (except in positions where other moves lose more quickly or easily), playing for a win in a drawn position but only creating losing chances for yourself, and seriously weakening your own position without achieving any compensation in return.

The philosophical way of viewing risk-taking in chess is that every move is a risk of some sort since the position changes with every move, and squares/pieces are weakened with every move, but obviously this isn't of much help to the player except for recognising what one can currently play, which could not be played on the previous move. 

Generally speaking, in an equal position against a slightly weaker player, you need to take some slight risks to play for a win, but if you do so at the expense of playing good moves, you are setting yourself up for disappointment.

In team competitions, a good general strategy (if you are the stronger team) is to play with the draw 'in hand' whilst playing for a win, and being ready to take risks if your team needs you to win. If you are the weaker team, offer a draw out of the opening, and then be ready to complicate the position without taking too many undue risks, and make sure you don't fall far behind on the clock.
  

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Re: Taking risks?
Reply #1 - 01/30/10 at 11:11:43
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This depends on your playing strength. Till 1800 there will be nearly always a blunder in your opponents game. So playing with full attention helps winning most games. Risk taking is not necessary for winning at this level and harmful if playing against 200+ weaker opponents.

When I was team captain and a player ask me for taking a risk to win the game I always said: Play your position and not for the team! We were rated 4th and succeeded in winning the league. Partly because the opponents started to play risky, partly because we had a 'clean shirt' against the lower rated teams. (Team points before game points.)
  

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01/30/10 at 10:12:47
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If your opponent don't make blunders, and you are of equal strength, do your always need to take risk in order to win? E.g. make a sacrifice or open lines to your King.

If you take a risk, do always see how the game will continue?

How certain are you that your risk taking will get you an advantage?
  
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