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Re: Declining the Queen's Gambit by John Cox
Reply #35 - 02/03/10 at 19:12:08
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Antillian, I'm curious.  Where can I find coverage of the Catalan for Black?
  
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Re: Declining the Queen's Gambit by John Cox
Reply #34 - 02/03/10 at 19:09:27
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I am with Keano here. I would prefer a nice meaty book on the QGD comparable to "The Berlin Wall" rather than have it diluted with Catalan coverage or d-pawn specials I could pick up elsewhere. Hopefully John Cox will pop around on the forum sometime and give us an idea what he plans.
  

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Re: Declining the Queen's Gambit by John Cox
Reply #33 - 02/03/10 at 18:31:11
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For my own part I wouldnt be particularly bothered if the Catalan was included or not - would prefer the main work to be on the QGD, and the Catalan could turn out to be a major distraction. The publisher blurb also makes no mention of Catalan so I would assume not, although I can see why some looking for the "complete repertoire" might like some guidance there, but the philosophy seems to be a hardcore book on the QGD, and I hope thats what they stick with!
  
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Re: Declining the Queen's Gambit by John Cox
Reply #32 - 02/03/10 at 18:20:10
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I've given Alias' comment about Catalan coverage some thought.  If you're going to write a book about the QGD, it probably makes sense to address the Catalan since it's so popular now.  There was a time when authors could ignore the Catalan, but now readers deserve to be given at least one line to play against it.
  
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Re: Declining the Queen's Gambit by John Cox
Reply #31 - 02/03/10 at 18:17:23
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For those interested in discussing advertising on the chess publishing.com website, please go to: 

http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1265220818
  
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Re: Declining the Queen's Gambit by John Cox
Reply #30 - 02/03/10 at 18:03:01
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Regarding the book, its good that someone like John Cox is writing it since (if our previous forum conversations are anything to go by - particularly the amazing thread during Topalov-Kramnik) he obviously believes very much in the defence, as is something of a "fan" if I could put it that way. For this reason it should be promising, my only hope is that he doesnt "dumb things down" too much and goes into the theoretical move-order problems in various lines. Judging by his book on the Alekhine which was supposed to be a "starting out" book, this will not be a problem. The choice of Tartakower and Lasker is excellent, and I presume against Bf4 he might also give two options. The only other problem is we have to wait so long  Sad
  
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Re: Declining the Queen's Gambit by John Cox
Reply #29 - 02/03/10 at 17:50:44
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This disaster of a thread is corrupted not only by my own stupid fulminations over "whilst," but also by all this about advertising.  Mea maxima culpa! Rather than try to sort it out into new threads, I simply declare now that any further posts to this thread not concerning Cox's forthcoming QGD book will be summarily deleted.  

Message me if you think there is advertising in a section of the forum for which I am responsible.  Public advocacy on this question should be posted under "Chess Publishing General, Discussion."
  

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Re: Declining the Queen's Gambit by John Cox
Reply #28 - 02/03/10 at 17:46:25
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Its good to hear he doesnt work for Everyman fluffy, although it doesnt change the wider issue. If this type of post is deemed appropriate then obviously I have misconstrued the policy and as I said before withdraw all, but if he was interested its just common sense to say so and provide a link after instead of copying and pasting the publishers blurb. Incidentally regarding the actual book I am very interested and will probably be the first one to buy it, but less so in the manner it was "advertised" (or not). Its not a straightforward issue either because if you allow this type of post it opens a can of worms and you could end up with a forum full of new threads which are ads for different books - on the other hand maybe this is what people want!  Shocked
  
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Re: Declining the Queen's Gambit by John Cox
Reply #27 - 02/03/10 at 17:32:20
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I happen to know the original poster, and he hardly works for Everyman. He found the info online and wanted to discuss it, so he pasted some of the info here. If you don't want to read the "advertisment", don't follow the thread. It's not that complicated...
  
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Re: Declining the Queen's Gambit by John Cox
Reply #26 - 02/03/10 at 17:21:16
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Fair enough - if this is deemed acceptable I withdraw all, although I fail to see the difference between Everyman flogging a book and a titled player selling a DVD - except that Everyman are much bigger! In this respect maybe this is just built into my personality as I always seem to root for the underdog. 
Posting a link and publishers blurb with no personal comments whatsoever is a tacky practice in my view - the poster is just giving free advertising to the publisher. If someone has a genuine interest in a book why not just say so and explain why and then at the end put a link for those interested in more details - I know its a fine line but a bit of common sense should suffice.
  
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Re: Declining the Queen's Gambit by John Cox
Reply #25 - 02/03/10 at 17:04:13
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Keano wrote on 02/03/10 at 15:26:00:
dfan wrote on 02/03/10 at 13:41:28:
I enjoy learning about forthcoming books through the chesspub forums.  The guy cut and pasted the information because that's the only thing that was available.  What is he supposed to do instead, just give a link to Everyman's website? That would probably be even more advertising-ish, as it would drive traffic to their website.

I think it would be a real shame if this sort of information were not allowed to be posted here because a fear of breaking some draconian rule.


He gave a link to the Everyman site and a cut and paste - its pretty blatant in my view and leaves a bad taste - but if the moderator is happy so be it! If this isnt an advertisement (possibly inadvertent one I admit, if we assume the poster has no relationship with Everyman) I fail to see what could be. Theres nothing wrong with posters mentioning new books (happens all the time) but when it is blatant advertising it crosses the line.


Well I would bow to the consensus view, but I don't think anyone but you is complaining.  I see that you concede the unlikelihood of the OP having a financial interest in the work, so how can his post be an advertisement?  It's not as if it says, "Buy now! Only $19.95!"  Personally I don't hang out on book publisher's websites, so I don't mind when someone comes here with this kind of info.

True enough, I would rather not see people coming here, even titled players, and shilling their latest DVD and the like.  That's what "no advertising" means to me.  But this is not that.

There's somebody on this forum, rossia I think, who's always linking new book blurbs and posting quotations of them.  So if this has been our mode heretofore, what is the problem now?
  

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Re: Declining the Queen's Gambit by John Cox
Reply #24 - 02/03/10 at 15:26:00
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dfan wrote on 02/03/10 at 13:41:28:
I enjoy learning about forthcoming books through the chesspub forums.  The guy cut and pasted the information because that's the only thing that was available.  What is he supposed to do instead, just give a link to Everyman's website? That would probably be even more advertising-ish, as it would drive traffic to their website.

I think it would be a real shame if this sort of information were not allowed to be posted here because a fear of breaking some draconian rule.


He gave a link to the Everyman site and a cut and paste - its pretty blatant in my view and leaves a bad taste - but if the moderator is happy so be it! If this isnt an advertisement (possibly inadvertent one I admit, if we assume the poster has no relationship with Everyman) I fail to see what could be. Theres nothing wrong with posters mentioning new books (happens all the time) but when it is blatant advertising it crosses the line.
  
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Re: Declining the Queen's Gambit by John Cox
Reply #23 - 02/03/10 at 13:41:28
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I enjoy learning about forthcoming books through the chesspub forums.  The guy cut and pasted the information because that's the only thing that was available.  What is he supposed to do instead, just give a link to Everyman's website? That would probably be even more advertising-ish, as it would drive traffic to their website.

I think it would be a real shame if this sort of information were not allowed to be posted here because a fear of breaking some draconian rule.
  
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Re: Declining the Queen's Gambit by John Cox
Reply #22 - 02/03/10 at 13:31:40
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 02/02/10 at 19:14:25:

It's interesting though, that if someone appears to be dogmatic about grammar, they also tend to be dogmatic in other areas.  Just an observation.


Thanks for reminding me, Smyslov Fan, of your esteem for me.  

I came here to remove my intemperate and offtopic outburst against whilst, but it's attracted too many rebukes to make doing that worthwhile.  So Markovich's lonely and not doubt dogmatic, not to mention chauvinistic, crusade against that hideous word will remain forever etched upon the scrolls of this forum, even unto the last of days.  But I do resolve to post no more to this thread about w----t.  Or even "pressurize."  And I apologize for taking the thread offtopic.

I don't think it's an advertisement, by the way, but just somebody quoting the publishers blurb in an effort to be informative.
  

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Re: Declining the Queen's Gambit by John Cox
Reply #21 - 02/03/10 at 11:41:15
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Keano wrote on 02/03/10 at 11:16:57:
Waiting or not if its an advertisement it goes against forum policy and needs to be deleted.


Assuming you are right about the thread being an advertisement, I'm surprised that Everyman would decide to publicise/market the book 12 months before the product is due to be published. In my opinion, it would make more sense to start advertising the book much closer to the publication date, say 3 months beforehand. 

I don't think the entire thread should be deleted - someone is just going to create another thread on this book just before the book is published. However, you are probably right that the original post and quotes of the original post should be deleted.
  

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