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Re: Declining the Queen's Gambit by John Cox
Reply #50 - 02/05/10 at 16:56:22
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Another book which covers the Catalan from a black repertoire perspective is Palliser's 'Tango!'

He covers the Open Catalan with 5 ...Nc6 (by transposition)- thoroughly from a black repertoire perspective. I am not sure how the analysis (a few years old I guess) holds up against Avrukh. But overall its an interesting system which certainly gives black his chances.
  
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Re: Declining the Queen's Gambit by John Cox
Reply #49 - 02/05/10 at 11:54:10
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I heard Jacob talking about a Tartakower book for Quality, but now with this title I am a bit confused, let´s see if that comes to light or not...
  
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Re: Declining the Queen's Gambit by John Cox
Reply #48 - 02/05/10 at 08:51:44
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Its really personal preference what to do against the Catalan, which is another reason I dont think its appropriate including the Catalan in a QGD book - also you´d have to change the title!
  
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Re: Declining the Queen's Gambit by John Cox
Reply #47 - 02/04/10 at 21:01:40
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I learned to play the main line with 6...dxc4 against the Catalan from Kotronias' oldish (1996) book "Beating the Flank Openings", which has a lot of good commentary and explanations as well as analysis. Of course many important games have been played since then, but the basic objectives for both sides haven't changed, and Kotronias explains these so well that I haven't found it too hard to incorporate the new material into my repertoire.
  
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Re: Declining the Queen's Gambit by John Cox
Reply #46 - 02/04/10 at 13:46:22
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Antilian - yes that is a line I quite like for Black against the Catalan - also ...Nbd7 with ...a5!? is interesting - following the established Kramnik-Topalov game - which is what most people might follow for White, but as Avrukh says it gives White absolutely nothing, as Topalov proved second time out against Radjabov. The line Avrukh gives ends up in a weird type of Stonewall position in which White has to play extremely accurately to prove an edge - the whole line looks quite healthy for Black at the moment. The closed lines with either ...b6 or ...Nbd7 followed by ...a5 are not bad options with the White bishop on d2 after the disruptive check.
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Re: Declining the Queen's Gambit by John Cox
Reply #45 - 02/04/10 at 13:17:51
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It's like my last post was invisible.  Roll Eyes 

But if you fancy the line 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.g3 Bb4+ 5.Bd2 Be7 6.Bg2 0-0 7.0-0 c6 8.Qc2 b6, then Andrew Greet's "Play the Queen's Indian" is a good source.  Of course there are independent possibilities such as 8. Bf4 and 5. Nbd2 not covered. But it is a good start nonetheless.
  
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Re: Declining the Queen's Gambit by John Cox
Reply #44 - 02/04/10 at 12:46:24
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Well if you read the blurb it says nothing about Catalan but mentions all the other major possibilities, so unless they change their minds now Id say thats pretty conclusive. Of QGD books only Jangvava included the Catalan, so its normal enough.
  
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Re: Declining the Queen's Gambit by John Cox
Reply #43 - 02/04/10 at 11:10:34
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Keano wrote on 02/04/10 at 09:16:33:
fluffy for advertising discussion see the link Smyslov_Fan posted above - maybe you can post your reply in that thread.

Regarding the Catalan, I think Avrukhs work, even if it is for White, would be the best source - combine this with a bit of independent research and you should be able to come up with something interesting - the Catalan really is a vast area so the danger including it for me is it ends up being too much of a distraction, so I agree with the publishers decision not to include it.

 

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Re: Declining the Queen's Gambit by John Cox
Reply #42 - 02/04/10 at 09:16:33
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fluffy for advertising discussion see the link Smyslov_Fan posted above - maybe you can post your reply in that thread.

Regarding the Catalan, I think Avrukhs work, even if it is for White, would be the best source - combine this with a bit of independent research and you should be able to come up with something interesting - the Catalan really is a vast area so the danger including it for me is it ends up being too much of a distraction, so I agree with the publishers decision not to include it.
  
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Re: Declining the Queen's Gambit by John Cox
Reply #41 - 02/04/10 at 05:27:20
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I'll suggest that against the Catalan, Cox will recommend the main line 4...Be7 5.Bg2 0-0 6.0-0 dc4 7.Qc2 a6 8.Qc4 b5 9.Qc2 Bb7. QGD players tend to be a solid bunch, so covering one of the most solid and reputed answers, which still offers winning chances for Black, makes sense to me.
  
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Re: Declining the Queen's Gambit by John Cox
Reply #40 - 02/04/10 at 03:32:03
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Keano wrote on 02/03/10 at 17:46:25:
Its good to hear he doesnt work for Everyman fluffy, although it doesnt change the wider issue. If this type of post is deemed appropriate then obviously I have misconstrued the policy and as I said before withdraw all, but if he was interested its just common sense to say so and provide a link after instead of copying and pasting the publishers blurb. Incidentally regarding the actual book I am very interested and will probably be the first one to buy it, but less so in the manner it was "advertised" (or not). Its not a straightforward issue either because if you allow this type of post it opens a can of worms and you could end up with a forum full of new threads which are ads for different books - on the other hand maybe this is what people want!  Shocked


isn't every post concerning a book "advertising"? you said "if he [the original poster] was interested its just common sense to say so". huh? isn't the post itself indicative of his interest. I do not see what the problem is here. It's not an advertisement saying buy this from me, go to this link, etc. It seems pretty obvious to me (common sense!) that the OP saw the book at Everyman's website and was interested in it, so he was looking to start a discussion here. The book isn't going to be out for a year - the OP is not taking preorders! if you don't like this so called advertising, don't follow the thread.
I swear some people just look for things to complain about...
  
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Re: Declining the Queen's Gambit by John Cox
Reply #39 - 02/04/10 at 00:09:30
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FYI, so far, the best book on the Catalan for Black that I've found is one of the best books on it for white, Avrukh's Grandmaster Repertoire: 1.d4 volume 1.

I agree that black needs a champion, but Black may not want to buy an entire volume for an opening he doesn't see that often. A well-written chapter in a QGD book would more than satisfy me!
  
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Re: Declining the Queen's Gambit by John Cox
Reply #38 - 02/03/10 at 23:22:23
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 02/03/10 at 19:12:08:
Antillian, I'm curious.  Where can I find coverage of the Catalan for Black?

You could try either Lasha Janjgava's Queens Gambit & Catalan for Black or the Khalifman book, an Opening Repertoire for Black according to Karpov.
 
Bit more coverage in the former which also covers the same territory as Cox probably will, whilst the little Khalifman book is a Nimzo/QID/Caro repertoire book.
  
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Re: Declining the Queen's Gambit by John Cox
Reply #37 - 02/03/10 at 21:21:41
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I can't think of that many repertoire books that take on the Catalan, and even less than do so effectively. So, it's needed. However, Cox will probably focus on the QGD.
  
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Re: Declining the Queen's Gambit by John Cox
Reply #36 - 02/03/10 at 21:11:09
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Andrew Greet's "Play the Queen's Indian" by transposition also doubles as  an almost complete Black repertoire against the Catalan.




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