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Re: Endgamebooks
Reply #24 - 09/02/10 at 16:25:00
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 09/01/10 at 13:19:03:
Is this really an endgame question?
No. Or even better: It depends a little of the definition of endgames.

But personally I think it's possible to give an answer to the question because exchanges may lead to different endgames. 

Depending on playing strength I would recomend Müller and Pajeken about Pawn endings at first. Secondly a complete engame course covering the stuff of Keres - Practical endings or Awerbach - any of his 1 tome endgame courses or De La Villa - 100 endgames you must know or a similar book. Thirdly G. Flear about nqe's is worth a reading.
  

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Re: Endgamebooks
Reply #23 - 09/01/10 at 15:28:32
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 09/01/10 at 13:19:03:
Is this really an endgame question?


If it is not appropriate here, then you should move it to other place. 
But I was inquiring about books. Smiley
  

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Re: Endgamebooks
Reply #22 - 09/01/10 at 13:19:03
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Is this really an endgame question?
  
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Reply #21 - 09/01/10 at 12:26:42
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Just about any book which has chapters on pawn structures discusses hanging pawns.
  

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Re: Endgamebooks
Reply #20 - 09/01/10 at 10:51:43
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Hi!

What books (and what topics) to study if one can't decide which endgame position (on the two diagrams below) is more preferable for black? 

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(P.S.: I also have to think hard to find a plan when I have hanging pawns in _the middlegame_.
Which book covers that?)
  

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Re: Endgamebooks
Reply #19 - 03/20/10 at 05:59:00
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Vandros wrote on 03/20/10 at 05:32:13:
Bowen wrote on 03/20/10 at 04:11:55:
My problem with endgame books is, "Which one will I study that is written in a manner that will allow me to remember how to play a specific position one or two years from now when I finally encounter it over the board?"

I have played through several endgame books, learned much, remembered some.

Study of endgames and their practical application are two different things.
So, first release the tension in your mind, that you must remember them over the board.

The exact application depends on many factors. In a sportive session you have to deal with tiredness, stress, pressure on the bladder in time-trouble etc.

Maybe it's important to get a feeling how to play endgames, and if you remember the exact order of moves it's fine, and if not, well no problem.

Completely agreed. I used to worry about memorizing everything when reading chess books, especially endgame books. Then I realized that just from repeatedly reading these types of books, I'll consciously remember a little more every time, and I'll unconsciously remember just enough to guide me in games when I don't remember every detail.

To put it another way: I realized that quantity of play and study was more important than remembering every detail of what I study.

But doing puzzles makes the material more memorable than just reading an explanation. So the next time you're reading a chess book, try to work out the solution after each diagram for yourself before reading the author's explanation. You'll understand and remember it better that way.

  

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Re: Endgamebooks
Reply #18 - 03/20/10 at 05:32:13
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Bowen wrote on 03/20/10 at 04:11:55:
My problem with endgame books is, "Which one will I study that is written in a manner that will allow me to remember how to play a specific position one or two years from now when I finally encounter it over the board?"

I have played through several endgame books, learned much, remembered some.

Study of endgames and their practical application are two different things.
So, first release the tension in your mind, that you must remember them over the board.

The exact application depends on many factors. In a sportive session you have to deal with tiredness, stress, pressure on the bladder in time-trouble etc.

Maybe it's important to get a feeling how to play endgames, and if you remember the exact order of moves it's fine, and if not, well no problem.
  
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Reply #17 - 03/20/10 at 05:03:49
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Bowen wrote on 03/20/10 at 04:11:55:
My problem with endgame books is, "Which one will I study that is written in a manner that will allow me to remember how to play a specific position one or two years from now when I finally encounter it over the board?"


Exactly.   
  
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Reply #16 - 03/20/10 at 04:11:55
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My problem with endgame books is, "Which one will I study that is written in a manner that will allow me to remember how to play a specific position one or two years from now when I finally encounter it over the board?"

I have played through several endgame books, learned much, remembered some.
  
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Re: Endgamebooks
Reply #15 - 03/16/10 at 10:14:50
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Zatara wrote on 03/14/10 at 20:18:40:
There seems to be some people who don't like SIlman's endgame book.  Why is that?  Also what about Reasess your chess and Ameuteur's mind.  
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The endgame book is poorly ordered and poorly written in my opinion. A bit silly to exclude the B+N endgame. There are better endgame books around.

Reasses: I liked that one a lot. Great examples.

Amateur: Didn't like that.

Perhaps my view of the books are related to my strength when reading the books and which other books I had read before these ones.
  

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Re: Endgamebooks
Reply #14 - 03/15/10 at 02:21:51
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Zatara wrote on 03/14/10 at 20:18:40:
There seems to be some people who don't like SIlman's endgame book.  Why is that?  Also what about Reasess your chess and Ameuteur's mind.  
Thanks,
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I have no idea. Silman's endgame book is the one I constantly recommend to people. If someone's already read another endgame book, then they probably don't need it, but it's the best available book to be anyone's first endgame book, and it should take anyone to at least 1800, at least.

  

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Reply #13 - 03/14/10 at 20:18:40
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There seems to be some people who don't like SIlman's endgame book.  Why is that?  Also what about Reasess your chess and Ameuteur's mind.   
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Re: Endgamebooks
Reply #12 - 03/10/10 at 08:52:17
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I've had a similar dilemma recently and I think what is best for you now is to get Shereshevsky's Endgame Strategy book (see Alias' post above). With your technical background you will be able to follow quickly the variations given and hence focus on the strategy elements. I have not read Muller's book (only the sample pages available on the net), but it also looked dry to me.

The endgame has not only a technical part, there is a lot of deep strategy as well.
  

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Reply #11 - 03/10/10 at 04:55:54
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Howell's book is the most excellent endgame book I've ever read. It alone took me to 1900 (with NO other endgame book). I then read Silman's book (which IS UTTER CRAP imo). And I've read 100 endgames you must know which I like. I've tried to get through other endgame books but i've had trouble so like i'm going to Mueller's dvds as opposed to his book which I barely able to get a chapter done in because its so dry.
  
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Reply #10 - 03/05/10 at 01:58:05
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gewgaw wrote on 03/04/10 at 21:24:14:

hm? sequest?


Sorry, I meant sequester.
  

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