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Re: Reasons to Play the Scandinavian?
Reply #22 - 10/06/10 at 11:32:30
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TN wrote on 09/26/10 at 13:53:05:
If you want to surprise your opponent without giving up a queen, there's always 3...Qe5. The Patzer Variation is trickier and more solid than its name would suggest. There was a good article on this line by Andrew Martin on Chessville.


It's chief advantage may be the fact that it is slightly less rubbish than it appears.
3...Qd6, 3...Qa5.
  
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Re: Reasons to Play the Scandinavian?
Reply #21 - 09/26/10 at 13:53:05
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If you want to surprise your opponent without giving up a queen, there's always 3...Qe5. The Patzer Variation is trickier and more solid than its name would suggest. There was a good article on this line by Andrew Martin on Chessville.
  

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Re: Reasons to Play the Scandinavian?
Reply #20 - 09/26/10 at 10:47:24
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Still waiting for this dubiosity to be proven...

But no worries, have been since 1991, and at the time there were less higher rated GM's playing the Scandi...
  
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Re: Reasons to Play the Scandinavian?
Reply #19 - 09/24/10 at 20:15:55
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Daniel wrote on 03/02/10 at 18:56:38:
You want to play the Caro Kann but think the Scandinavian is less theoretical...

You have to know more theory to play the Scandinavian as the positions you get are inferior to the Caro so playing it without study is asking to be blown off the board rather quickly.


More theory than the Advance Caro? With ...Bf5, at any rate? Hmmm. Despite my misgivings about the Scandinavian and my inner voice telling me to carry on with the Caro I seem to perform better with the Scandinavian. This seems mostly to be all about the way I (mis)handle the Advance, though...

I'm under no illusions as to the soundness or otherwise of this defence, but it seems to suit me. Dubious defence for a dubious chessplayer, then  Undecided
  
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Re: Reasons to Play the Scandinavian?
Reply #18 - 03/02/10 at 23:20:36
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Markovich wrote on 03/02/10 at 17:21:42:
Quickturtle wrote on 03/02/10 at 12:44:10:
parisestmagique wrote on 02/18/10 at 17:14:06:
Ludeck Pachman, the famous player and theorician, called once the Scandinavian an improved Caro-kan ... I dont know if he was serious or if it was a joke. Seriously it makes a lot of White players (including myself) incomfortable, and i think the 3.Nc3 Qd8 variation is underestimated.


Yeah, 3...Qd8 MIGHT be underestimated. Most players haven't played against it when they play a Centre Counter player. Maybe I'll learn that variation myself to surprise my opponents in G/30 tourneys. 


I hope this was intended in jest.  But seriously, in my next G/30 event, I think I'll really surprise my opponent and play 3...Qh5.



LOL...that would really surprise him Smiley
  
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Re: Reasons to Play the Scandinavian?
Reply #17 - 03/02/10 at 20:15:32
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so playing it without study is asking to be blown off the board rather quickly.


as opposed to an opening such as...    euh...

(And what Scandinavian are you talking about ?)
  
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Re: Reasons to Play the Scandinavian?
Reply #16 - 03/02/10 at 18:56:38
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You want to play the Caro Kann but think the Scandinavian is less theoretical...

You have to know more theory to play the Scandinavian as the positions you get are inferior to the Caro so playing it without study is asking to be blown off the board rather quickly.
  
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Re: Reasons to Play the Scandinavian?
Reply #15 - 03/02/10 at 17:57:03
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My candidate for Reason 10 (other nominations will be accepted):  

10. Duz-Chotimirsky used it to beat Mir Sultan Khan at Marienbad, 1937.  What more needs to be said?
  

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Re: Reasons to Play the Scandinavian?
Reply #14 - 03/02/10 at 17:41:45
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All right, then.  

Ten Reasons to Play the Scandinavian:

1. He might not notice that his e-pawn is threatened.

2. I like to attack with my unsupported queen.

3. It will take him out of the broad and deep theory that my club opponents invariably are utterly familiar with. I'm so tired of being beaten by move-35 TNs down at the Sioux City Chess Den, you know?

5. I have memorized a tree of Scandinavian theoretical variations out to move 34.

6. He will assume I'm a duffer and forget about protecting his king.

7. He will assume I'm a bad-ass Scandinavian theory hound, and become incapable of thinking about anything except protecting his king.  

8. There's a good chance he'll offer the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit, after which my win is obvious.

9. The Caro-Kann is so ordinary.

10. Darn, I can't think of the tenth one.  Any suggestions?
  

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Re: Reasons to Play the Scandinavian?
Reply #13 - 03/02/10 at 17:21:42
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Quickturtle wrote on 03/02/10 at 12:44:10:
parisestmagique wrote on 02/18/10 at 17:14:06:
Ludeck Pachman, the famous player and theorician, called once the Scandinavian an improved Caro-kan ... I dont know if he was serious or if it was a joke. Seriously it makes a lot of White players (including myself) incomfortable, and i think the 3.Nc3 Qd8 variation is underestimated.


Yeah, 3...Qd8 MIGHT be underestimated. Most players haven't played against it when they play a Centre Counter player. Maybe I'll learn that variation myself to surprise my opponents in G/30 tourneys. 


I hope this was intended in jest.  But seriously, in my next G/30 event, I think I'll really surprise my opponent and play 3...Qh5.
  

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Re: Reasons to Play the Scandinavian?
Reply #12 - 03/02/10 at 12:44:10
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parisestmagique wrote on 02/18/10 at 17:14:06:
Ludeck Pachman, the famous player and theorician, called once the Scandinavian an improved Caro-kan ... I dont know if he was serious or if it was a joke. Seriously it makes a lot of White players (including myself) incomfortable, and i think the 3.Nc3 Qd8 variation is underestimated.


Yeah, 3...Qd8 MIGHT be underestimated. Most players haven't played against it when they play a Centre Counter player. Maybe I'll learn that variation myself to surprise my opponents in G/30 tourneys. Bobby Fischer played a game in which he crushed the guy that  played 3...Qd8 and it basically had people saying that line was completely dead.

  
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Re: Reasons to Play the Scandinavian?
Reply #11 - 02/23/10 at 02:02:52
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- Black is 100% certain to play it after 1.e4 ;
- being a standalone system, it can be used as a second weapon against e4


What about after 2.d4? 
2...dxe4 3.f3 is a BDG. 
2...c6 is a Caro Kann. 

Unfortunately, 1...d5 is not a complete standalone system. 
I still like it though Wink
  
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Re: Reasons to Play the Scandinavian?
Reply #10 - 02/18/10 at 17:14:06
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Ludeck Pachman, the famous player and theorician, called once the Scandinavian an improved Caro-kan ... I dont know if he was serious or if it was a joke. Seriously it makes a lot of White players (including myself) incomfortable, and i think the 3.Nc3 Qd8 variation is underestimated.
  
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Re: Reasons to Play the Scandinavian?
Reply #9 - 02/18/10 at 15:45:05
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among possible reasons :
- it is quite playable  ;
- Black is 100% certain to play it after 1.e4 ;
- no big theory needed ;
- Black has a decent control about which variation will appear on the board ;
- being a standalone system, it can be used as a second weapon against e4 ;
- it's often good to play an early ...d5 against systems with f4 or against players known to play with early e4-f4.
  
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Re: Reasons to Play the Scandinavian?
Reply #8 - 02/18/10 at 10:05:20
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I've noticed in the last few years the Scandi with ...Qxd5 has become incredibly popular in open tournaments (usually played by players around 1900-2100 but obviously by higher rated players also). The obvious attraction I suppose is that Black can usually get the position he is looking for on the board, on the downside I think playing only this Scandi/Caro-kann structure as Black is very limited particularly for a young player. Maybe an idea to combine it with something else?
  
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