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Re: Avrukh vs. Classical Dutch 1/2-1/2
Reply #3 - 03/05/10 at 07:20:44
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Avrukh's entire repertoire series, for the most part, is aimed at small positional advantages where white can slowly grind away (ie: Catalan, Slow Slav, etc.).

It's definitely no surprise he has no desire to try to "refute" the Dutch, and white players that like his series will be perfectly happy to walk away with a nibble (as white may have, for example by GM Williams' own admission, even after 13...Bd7) if they can get it using his suggestions.

I can't think of any GM, especially of Avrukh's caliber, that would be going out and trying to show an entire opening such as the Dutch Defense is +/-. White players I know are generally happy with positions a GM much stronger than themselves evaluates as being better for white.
  

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Re: Avrukh vs. Classical Dutch 1/2-1/2
Reply #2 - 03/05/10 at 06:12:31
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That's still not clear equality for black, sure. But overall I'm a bit surprised by Avrukh's choices against the Dutch, particularly the Classical and the Leningrad. They look tamer than I expected. I half-expected him to go all-in an try to refute this nonsense once and for all!  Wink
  

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Re: Avrukh vs. Classical Dutch 1/2-1/2
Reply #1 - 03/05/10 at 02:31:40
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Let me guess, 13...Bd7 is equal because Rybka says so, right?

If so, let me face-palm now.

I sincerely hope that 13...Bd7 being equal was Williams' assessment, and not some patzer coupled with Rybka.

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At the European Team Championships I was looking at this line with Stephen Gordon GM, who thought that 10 f3 Nc6!? (this was my original intention) 11 fxe4 Rxf1+ 12 Nxf1! (I believe that this is the only way White can aim to get an advantage, 12 Qxf1 Nxd4 is fine for Black I had this 4 years ago and got a winning position against a GM) 12...dxc4 13 Be3! (13 e3 e5!) I believe that this is a critical position for the evaluation of the whole 7...Ne4 opening. 
And now 13...Bd7!? was Stephens suggestion and he thought that Black might be fine. It does not look a lot worse for Black but maybe White has some edge due to his strong centre.


I found the post of interest on this:

So Williams' assessment himself is somewhere between = and +=, hardly "13...Bd7! =".
  

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Avrukh vs. Classical Dutch 1/2-1/2
03/04/10 at 21:21:41
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Just got the hands of the new Avrukh book. Massive stuff as usual (600+ pages Avrukh-style, phew!) but checking his anti-classical dutch lines I was a bit disappointed, or from the black perspective rather happy Smiley.

At first, he seem to have a pretty good grip:

Against 7.. Ne4!? He goes for the critical 8.Nxe4 fxe4 9. Nd2 d5 10. f3 Nc6 11. fxe4 Rxf1 

Hmm, did he check the chesspublishing forum?

OK, now the decent but not only possibility 12. Nxf1 followed by 12.. dxc4 13. Be3.

But here he only gives 13.. a6?! and 13.. b5?! 

Aha, he didn't really check the forum after all, looks more like he lazy-followed some Williams analysis. Pity for him, otherwise it would have been tougher after 13.. Bd7! = 

So I judge the theory duel Avrukh vs. Classical Dutch as 1/2-1/2, black didn't even have to try to defend 7.. a5 or 7... Qe8 Smiley 

This just shows that 'books' will always be more or less quickly outdated and owned by internet forums. And nowadays patzers with the great equalizer Rybka on good HW with computer skills can out-analyze GM:s not yet into the modern world.
  
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