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Re: Traxler
Reply #12 - 03/29/10 at 23:38:01
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In my analysis, I prefer 9.d6 cxd6 to 9...Qxd6 as black has more winning chances and white is under greater pressure.
  
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Re: Traxler
Reply #11 - 03/29/10 at 12:17:32
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The real question is what people have vs. the Bxf7+, Bb3, and d3 system. If I remember correctly, this line was problematic as well.
  
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Re: Traxler
Reply #10 - 03/28/10 at 18:47:48
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ArKheiN wrote on 03/28/10 at 18:34:15:
So after 10.c3 Bg4 11.Nf7, Blacks play 11..Qd7

Well, 11...Qd7 12.Nxe5 Qf5 looks annoying for White indeed, you are right.
  
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Re: Traxler
Reply #9 - 03/28/10 at 18:34:15
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To g4-g4: 11.Nf7 Qb6! is good against 10.d3, not 10.c3. So after 10.c3 Bg4 11.Nf7, Blacks play 11..Qd7
  
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Re: Traxler
Reply #8 - 03/28/10 at 14:32:24
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Djy wrote on 03/28/10 at 12:59:25:
yes 9.d6 Qd6 10.c3 Bg4 11.Qa4 Nd7 12.Kf2 Qf6 13.Ke1 0-0-0  and here in the NIC 70 14.cd4 was given as the only not losing  move but in fact it's lose by force! Smiley

Yes, but this is not forced, so White may deviate with e.g. 11.Nf7!?. Heisman proposes 11...Qb6 "! - and Black has some attacking chances". But after 12.Qa4+ Bd7 13.Qb4 Nc2 14.Qxb6 Bxb6 15.Na3 Nxa1 16.Nxe5 White is a pawn up, to say the least  Smiley
  
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Re: Traxler
Reply #7 - 03/28/10 at 12:59:25
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yes 9.d6 Qd6 10.c3 Bg4 11.Qa4 Nd7 12.Kf2 Qf6 13.Ke1 0-0-0  and here in the NIC 70 14.cd4 was given as the only not losing  move but in fact it's lose by force! Smiley
  
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Re: Traxler
Reply #6 - 03/27/10 at 19:21:53
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From my analysis, it seems that today Black draws after 5.Nxf7 Smiley

In another forum, someone claimed that he had refuted the Traxler in the line with 9.d6. He challenged me in a corr game and in fact I equalized easily, and I even won the game.
  
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Re: Traxler
Reply #5 - 03/27/10 at 16:44:26
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But why 9.h3? I was quite sure 9.d6 is winning?
  
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Re: Traxler
Reply #4 - 03/23/10 at 13:13:54
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Conquistador wrote on 03/11/10 at 14:03:25:
Here is a line in the 5.Nxf7 Traxler where black is having a problem and I would like to have some help with my analysis.

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 Bc5 5.Nxf7 Bxf2+ 6.Kf1 Qe7 7.Nxh8 d5 8.exd5 Nd4 9.h3 Bh4 10.c3 Nf5 11.d4 where the critical position is reached.
How should black respond here?

Simply after 11.d4 e4 12.Bd2 Bd7 13.Na3 0-0-0 blacks seems to be little better in alls variations
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Re: Traxler
Reply #3 - 03/14/10 at 14:34:36
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11.d4 e4 12.Bd2 e3 13.Be1 Bf2 14.Bxf2 exf2 15.Qc1 Ne4 16.g4 Neg3+ 17.Kf2 Nxh1+ 18.Kg1 and white is winning was the analysis I had.   

9.h3 Bh4 10.c3 Nf5 11.d4 Bd7 12.d6 Nxd6 13.g3 Nxc4 14.gxh4 0-0-0 15.Qe2 Nd6 16.Qxe5 Qf8 and black has a solid advantage because of his initiative.

9...Bg3 does have indications of being the stronger move.  I want to be sure of 9...Bh4 first to have a complete analysis.
  
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Re: Traxler
Reply #2 - 03/14/10 at 11:47:58
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Estrin, Traxler Gegenangriff, 4th ed. 1987 gives 9. - Bh4 10.c3 Nf5!11.d4 e4 (or Ne4 Sapundshijev - Gorkow, cc 1966/67 = in 24) 12.Bd2 e3! 13.Be1 Bf2 14.Bxf2 exf2
and sees black superior.

Further he thinks that
9. - Bg3! (every ! by Estrin in this post) is better for black.
  
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Re: Traxler
Reply #1 - 03/13/10 at 18:46:08
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I think this line will be good.

11...exd4 12.cxd4 Ne4 13.Bf4 Bg5 14.Qc1 Bxf4 15.Qxf4 Neg3+ 16.Kg1 Qe1+ 17.Bf1 Nxh1 18.Qe5+ Qxe5 19.dxe5 Nhg3 20.Nc3 Ke7 21.Bb5 a6 22.Ba4 Bd7 23.Bxd7 Kxd7 =
  

  
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Traxler
03/11/10 at 14:03:25
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Here is a line in the 5.Nxf7 Traxler where black is having a problem and I would like to have some help with my analysis.

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 Bc5 5.Nxf7 Bxf2+ 6.Kf1 Qe7 7.Nxh8 d5 8.exd5 Nd4 9.h3 Bh4 10.c3 Nf5 11.d4 where the critical position is reached.
How should black respond here?
  
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