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Re: One of my biggest problems in Tournament Chess
Reply #22 - 04/11/10 at 23:20:41
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I try to run everyday, perhaps if I just do some light exercise the day before I'll be energized enough. I may consider meditating or doing some yoga before sleeping, may help relax me a bit. 

I'm also playing Team4545League over the summer, I may consider experimenting with the effect of coffee on me by playing one of the games in the afternoon. 

Chevy: I felt like I was close to the top 100 at one point, but after that....well...things got busy and I definitely had less time. Yeah, that is the big thing though, not worrying about it. I remember playing this 8 year old boy who was 1800 and while I felt totally bogged down thinking as hard as a could, he was so happy go lucky and I find when I'm calm like that and don't have that pressure piling up on me to gain rating I do better....but....with all this college stuff and everything it's hard....I'm trying to not care though, but it's not that easy when I know it could be my last tournament
  

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Re: One of my biggest problems in Tournament Chess
Reply #21 - 04/11/10 at 08:09:03
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kobesarmy wrote on 04/10/10 at 17:02:29:
The stress is big, I have to admit that, I try meditating before the rounds and at night before I sleep to try and clear my head but I just can't  Embarrassed  No matter how hard I try I can still some of the pressure building up.

My next tourney is near the end of June, because of tight summer plans etc. in the next few years, it may be my last USCF tournament, it's a 4 round tournament and I want to give myself the best possible chance condition wise.


Something similar happened to me in high school. I had greater responsibilities while preparing for college and although eventually I started to get invitations to special events once I reached the top 300 under 21, I couldn't do anything about it even though I preferred chess to the obligations I had. In my last major adult tournament during high school, I bombed all my games, which was not typical as I had been progressing very steadily up to that point. I remember having to go to some science-related competition in between the first and second round. Maybe I knew at the time that I would have fewer chances to play for a while.

The good news was that I regained the points I lost very quickly after my senior year ended when I had some chances to play in the summer. When I think back, it seems that some of my worst tournaments were when I knew I would not get another chance to play for a while. Interestingly, I remember having time trouble those times!

This may not sound encouraging, but maybe the best thing you can do is try to have fun and not worry so much about the result. I used to be a very nervous player when I was younger, but now I don't have the same concerns I used to have. Most of the top scholastic players I knew are inactive now. Ultimately, I continued to play for myself.
  
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Re: One of my biggest problems in Tournament Chess
Reply #20 - 04/10/10 at 20:03:56
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Good sleep is critical, but I'd like to come back to the suggestion of exercise.  In addition to the stress and anxiety associated with playing chess, a tournament games consumes an awful lot of nervous energy.  Being well-rested helps, of course, but it is possible to increase one's stores of energy through regular exercise.  If you're still young, this should be an important feature of your weekly habits, and not just for chess reasons.  In my experience, I've found that my physical fitness has helped me to outlast opponents, especially during these afternoon games.  This isn't something you can pick up the day before a tournament; it needs to be a regular part of your routine.  Good exercise will also help you to sleep.
  

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Re: One of my biggest problems in Tournament Chess
Reply #19 - 04/10/10 at 19:11:14
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Markovich wrote on 04/09/10 at 17:27:26:
whatever you do, you have to get a decent night's sleep before the event.


My advice is directed towards this because I think this is the real problem. Getting physical exhausted the last day before tournament makes you pay as well as you already wrote yourself. So basically you have two options:

1) follow my advise; do some but not too heavy exercises;
2) if this middle way does not work, follow the advise of your parents and quit OTB chess. Corr. chess is fun too, you know. Stress isn't as high because it's spread out over a longer period. And it's very good for your analytical skills. Keres and Alekhine did it in their younger years.

Unless somebody else comes up with a good idea to get kobesarmy at sleap. Valium is not one.
  

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Re: One of my biggest problems in Tournament Chess
Reply #18 - 04/10/10 at 17:02:29
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Smyslov, I've been taking half point byes on all afternoon games in my past tournament, however the thing is it rigs up the pairings I have to play and pretty much puts me in a tough situation when there are only 4 rounds in the tournament. I only get to play 2, the first one I'm almost certain to have a high rated strong opponent, and the next a lower rated strong opponent giving me a chance at a 0-2. This may be my last tournament, I want to give myself a chance.

Also, i sometimes play on ICC in the afternoons, blitz is fine, but slow games have the same affect, I start off fine, but in the middle game to endgames I start to feel totally out of it. Standardized tests don't give the same feeling, I'm tired yes, but they don't really wipe me out like a 4 hour game of chess can. Especially since I almost always go into long endgame grinds.

The stress is big, I have to admit that, I try meditating before the rounds and at night before I sleep to try and clear my head but I just can't  Embarrassed  No matter how hard I try I can still some of the pressure building up.

My next tourney is near the end of June, because of tight summer plans etc. in the next few years, it may be my last USCF tournament, it's a 4 round tournament and I want to give myself the best possible chance condition wise.
  

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Re: One of my biggest problems in Tournament Chess
Reply #17 - 04/09/10 at 17:54:58
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It sounds like the stress is coming from focusing on the outcomes too much. A little nerves are good, but if you can't sleep than you need to clear your mind of everything but what you can control. 

Dont think about rating points, wins/losses, crosstable position etc.

Sometimes when I am waiting for a second round, I will clear my mind of chess all together. Being an adult, one learns to conserve energy for when it is most needed. 
  

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Re: One of my biggest problems in Tournament Chess
Reply #16 - 04/09/10 at 17:27:26
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kobesarmy wrote on 04/08/10 at 21:57:42:
yeah, the thing is the night before I just can't get the tournament out of my head and unless I'm exhausted I spend most of the night just lying there....my heart rate pumping fast


Well that would be a very good explanation for your weariness during the afternoon of the next day.  But it sounds like stress is the real problem.  Chess is a very stressful pursuit; different people manage that differently.  But whatever you do, you have to get a decent night's sleep before the event.
  

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Re: One of my biggest problems in Tournament Chess
Reply #15 - 04/09/10 at 17:15:57
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Well, there is an alternative: you could take a bye for one of the afternoon games.  You'll probably have to request it upon registration, but then you'd get a half-point instead of 0.

You could also take a bye in the morning round instead and see if it's an afternoon thing or tiredness.

How do you do during the standardized tests at your school?  Are you really tired in the afternoon sessions then?
  
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Reply #14 - 04/09/10 at 17:12:05
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For most people there probably is a middle way....but I guess I'm just kind of OCD like that, I don't actually have a disorder, it's just that I'm nervous before events becuz of the pressures I'm under to do well

I agree with Smyslov_fan though, I don't think it's a good idea to drink coffee, it's been recommended to me in later rounds by other kid players but I've always strayed away from it as a drug.

The banana thing is interesting, i already drink a ton of water and walk around a ton, I find that it really does help late in my round 1 game, but I'm still too tired in round 2 after my morning 30/90 G/60 Game.

It's been my problem for the past year of chess, and is one of the reasons my parents recommend me quitting competitive chess. Cuz i keep dropping precious rating points when I'm sleepy. Prevents me from playing the afternoon rounds to my best.
  

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Re: One of my biggest problems in Tournament Chess
Reply #13 - 04/09/10 at 03:12:39
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kobesarmy wrote on 04/08/10 at 21:57:42:
yeah, the thing is the night before I just can't get the tournament out of my head and unless I'm exhausted I spend most of the night just lying there....my heart rate pumping fast

There must be a middle way, don't you think?
  

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Re: One of my biggest problems in Tournament Chess
Reply #12 - 04/08/10 at 22:17:58
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Much of the advice seems to have been geared towards adults, not younger players.  My advice for caffeine, for instance is a bad idea for people younger than about 12 and is iffy even for a 15 yr old.

Your body is still developing.  There are concrete recommendations that work regardless of age, such as eating bananas, but I would be very hesitant to recommend an exercise program to you. 

There are certain things you can do to help ward off sleepiness.  Of course, a good night's rest is ideal.  Beyond that, you can try walking around the tnmt hall a bit. I reiterate that drinking plenty of water during the games is a great idea. But the big thing would be to discuss this with your parents.
  
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Reply #11 - 04/08/10 at 21:57:42
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yeah, the thing is the night before I just can't get the tournament out of my head and unless I'm exhausted I spend most of the night just lying there....my heart rate pumping fast
  

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Re: One of my biggest problems in Tournament Chess
Reply #10 - 04/07/10 at 22:02:25
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kobesarmy wrote on 04/07/10 at 16:45:20:
The thing with exercising the day before is, I used to not do that, but I would never fall asleep until midnight even though I'd be in bed by 9 or 10, I'd be too stressed out to fall asleep.


I do recommend to do some exercises the day before; I recommend against exercising intensively. An intensive approach at an earlier stage and a relaxed one the day before should do. In other words: avoid getting overtired. The day before your goal must be to relax body and mind (after the exercises), not to push your limits. You should save that for the tournament itself.
  

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Re: One of my biggest problems in Tournament Chess
Reply #9 - 04/07/10 at 16:45:20
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Thanks for all the responses!!

I'm a kid so I don't drink coffee hehe,

The thing with exercising the day before is, I used to not do that, but I would never fall asleep until midnight even though I'd be in bed by 9 or 10, I'd be too stressed out to fall asleep.

Yeah I do find that walking helps, I try to stand up sometimes when playing, definitely helps but when I'm tired it's doesn't help enough.

I don't seem to have much of a problem taking a dump every morning though, I always get it in before the game even though I have butterflies before the game starts.

I do tend to drink "too much" water though, I have the tendency to grab at my water bottle after every move and take a sip.

I eat bananas in the morning, however I may consider eating a banana during the game, might help Smiley
  

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Re: One of my biggest problems in Tournament Chess
Reply #8 - 04/07/10 at 12:50:52
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Food's an issue but the OP's drowsiness could be a symptom of stress as well.  Try taking a walk around the block before the round, and during the game, work on breathing deeply.

But back on the food angle, I wonder if your problem could be too much morning caffeine, which can cause an afternoon let-down.
  

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